Ten conservative myths about Black America

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Ten conservative myths about Black America - Detroit Political Buzz | Examiner.com

Today, everyone on the internet wrote something or other about the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr’s “I have a dream” speech. This includes Conservatism Inc., the well-funded network of professional conmen that exists to secure the precious profits of its disgustingly greedy funders within Corporate America, and that for decades now has played normal White Americans for fools by claiming to stand for various social and cultural values when all it really stands for is the right for George Soros to make even more money.

Conservatism Inc. doesn’t stand for a particular people in a particular place with a particular unique culture. But it sure as hell does a clever job of using racial rhetoric to keep the White base fired up. Talk radio and Fox News are particularly adept at this, specifically Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Billy Cunningham.

The problem with this racial rhetoric, however, is that it’s a huge pile of lies and deceit. In honor of the 50th anniversary of the “I have a dream” speech, herewith are ten myths that Conservatism Inc. feeds on a weekly basis to its White base:

1. Blame liberalism

Here are a list of places where liberal policies, particularly liberal economic policies, work quite well: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Australia, Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Portland, Oregon. That’s four countries, five states, and one city where liberalism hasn’t destroyed anything. Norway and Australia, for example, are No.1 and No.2 respectively on the Human Development Index.

Liberalism didn’t destroy black communities. Liberalism doesn’t oppress black people. Unions, public education, high taxes, and other liberal economic policies work just fine in those ten places and many others. Detroit had all those policies and failed anyway. This is a contradiction that can’t be explained by the existence of liberal policies. Something else is going on here.

2. Democrat plantations

This one has got to be insulting to most blacks, not to mention most non-whites in general. There’s a simple reason why blacks vote for the party of social welfare spending and higher taxes: Because it benefits their bottom line. Blacks benefit from food stamps. They benefit from section 8 housing. They benefit from affirmative action. They benefit from the entire cornucopia of racial socialist policies. They don’t have to explain why to anyone. The reasons are self-evident.

So what does Conservatism Inc. see? It sees a Democract Plantation! You may have heard of wage slavery. Well, Conservatism Inc. looks at the social welfare system and sees “vote slavery.” It doesn’t see blacks acting as self-rational human beings, it sees them as being “enslaved” to a party that “promises” them “more stuff.” Or as Rush Limbaugh called it, Santa Clause.

Does Conservatism Inc. actually believe that opposing social welfare will make blacks better off and win black support? Sure seems like it based on the next myth

3. Free market capitalism will save blacks

This is a popular myth for those who’ve been brainwashed into believing the blank slate theory – the myth that humans are mostly if not entirely the product of nurture as opposed to nature. If you assume that humans are blank slates, than all that’s needed are the “right” policies and the “right” environment, whatever that may be.

Introducing the creed of “free markets,” a creed that your humble Examiner is guilty of ignorantly spewing a thousand times over. It’s not only a false creed, it’s an immoral one. Moreover, the “lack” of free market capitalism isn’t why black communities are in such dire condition. Not only does welfare objectively benefit blacks, but it benefits them more than starting a business does. Why would a black person start a business that, from a law of averages standpoint, is more likely than not to fail, when he can get guaranteed money from the government that covers his entire standard of living?

The fact is, blacks are better off under the social welfare state than they are under free markets. The black poverty rate was almost 56 percent in 1959. Today it hovers around 30 percent. Still bad, but not nearly as bad as the glorious era of free markets. Capitalism wouldn’t create prosperity in black communities. It would make them much worse off.

4. Culture

This is where all the stats about out of wedlock pregnancies, the “hip hop mentality,” and crime stats come in. The crime stats themselves musn’t be ignored, but quite frankly, they’re useless if the true cause isn’t accurately diagnosed.

Conservatism Inc. twists itself into a pretzel by freely admitting all these stats and facts that makes liberals highly uncomfortable, but then they ruin their case when they blame it on some amorphous “culture.” They don’t dare place responsibility on the people who created the culture in the first place. Why, that would be “racist.”

It’s no surprise that Conservatism Inc. blames “culture.” This is the same group of conmen that pushes the lunatic notion that Western Civilization is transferable to every race of humanity. You've got to give liberals this: The true believers among them don’t have any hypocritical pretenses about Western Civilization being “superior.”

5. Education/school choice

Once again we’re back to the blank slate theory, only this time with disastrous consequences to White parents who want to send their kids to safe, quality schools. Just like liberals, Conservatism Inc. utterly refuses to place any blame whatsoever on the black students themselves. Somehow those black students are the “victims” of “teachers unions.” Give them a taxpayer-funded voucher to put them in a private school which just so happens to benefit the bottom line of greedy profit-seekers and everything will be hunky dory! (Except when it isn’t).

6. Martin Luther King Jr was a conservative

Remember three years ago when Cenk Uygur of Young Turks claimed on his MSNBC show that Barack Obama is more conservative than Ronald Reagan? This is the other side of that coin. Just ask Martin Luther King Jr.

7. Blacks are natural conservatives

They claim the same thing about Hispanics and Asians. With all these natural conservatives everywhere, it’s a wonder how any Democrat ever gets elected anywhere. Oh yeah, the whole “democrat plantation” thing. Forgot about that. In any case, Ann Coulter and Donald Trump aren’t exactly pro-White activists, and they can see that the “natural conservatives” argument is a sham. No race of people are “naturally conservative,” not even White people (see the existence of the Northeast United States)

8. Democrats are the real racists; Republicans passed Civil Rights

For some odd reason, it seems like liberal commentators are a bit hesitant to say this explicitly, but here it goes: The Democrats were the conservative party in the 50s and early 60s, and the Republican Party was the liberal party. If nothing else, Southern Democrats were explicitly conservative and Northern Republicans were explicitly liberal. As older Southerners like to say: I didn’t leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me.

9. Black leadership

This is another fancy way of deflecting responsibility off the people themselves and instead blaming mayors and city councilmen who supposedly “hold down” black people. Fact is, those mayors and city councilmen are merely reflections of the people who voted them into office. Some black leaders are indeed particularly corrupt, such as Kwame Kilpatrick here in Detroit. But they were all duly elected by black voters. Once again, the refusal to cast responsibility anywhere but where it belongs is a hallmark tactic of the racial rhetoric of Conservatism Inc.

10. America was a horrible, dark, "racist" country from 1776 to 1963

The layman will notice that this claim runs directly counter to all their “take America back” propaganda. How is it that a "conservative" like Billy Cunningham can get on his radio show like he did last Sunday night (August 25), talk all this crap about how America was a horribly “racist” nation between 1776 and 1963, and then claim he is a “great American?” What kind of “great American” or “great (fill in the blank)” trashes the first 200 years of his nation’s history like that and then claims we should “return to the founding era?”

Folks, regardless of what you think of America circa 1776-1963, that kind of contradictory non-sense can only come from the mouth of a paid hack. Or multiple hacks, as it were. Conservatives and liberals share pretty much the exact same view of pre-1963 American history: The same ethos (“America was racist and had to overcome racism in order to live up to its promise of equality!”), and with the recent exception of FDR, the same heroes (Lincoln and MLK in particular).

Pat Buchanan once said Democrats and Republicans are two wings of the same bird of prey. The same is true of conservatism and liberalism in this country. The only rift between the two camps is that one of them is desperately trying to protect its hoard of cash, and the other seeks to pillage that hoard of cash. In the grand scheme of things, such a rift is a pillow fight. If the comment sections at their own websites are any indication, Conservatism Inc. will be faced with the real fight soon enough, and they’ll be faced with it good and hard.
 
You have your choice. This is 10 liberal lies about conservatism, or you posted 10 liberal strawmen in order to boost your weak argument.

Which is it?
 
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You have your choice. This is 10 liberal lies about conservatism, or you posted 10 liberal strawmen in order to boost your weak argument.

Which is it?

Liberal lies? Now I know you didn't read the article. If you don't want to read it, don't bother posting.
 
Learn to think first before posting and I wouldn't have to bother with a reply.

Have a nice day.
 
Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.
 
8. Democrats are the real racists; Republicans passed Civil Rights

For some odd reason, it seems like liberal commentators are a bit hesitant to say this explicitly, but here it goes: The Democrats were the conservative party in the 50s and early 60s, and the Republican Party was the liberal party. If nothing else, Southern Democrats were explicitly conservative and Northern Republicans were explicitly liberal. As older Southerners like to say: I didn’t leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me.

So goes the liberal story line. This is why you are being accused of posting, to be kind, BS. You can try and divide the parties Liberal/Conservative to try and make a point but it is a weak point. The TRUTH, I hope you can handle the truth, is that it was the Democrat party that started a war to keep the black man in chains. The Republican party was formed by abolitionists (that means those who opposed slavery). Of course democrats now have to resort to "story telling" to explain why their party shouldn't be rank right up their with every other regime that enslaved people. So they invent the Southern Strategy myth and the myth that every single racist went from the democrat part to the party that freed the slaves.

So when I read through your list and I come to this one big fat liberal piece of inventive BS I am pretty sure I can ignore the rest.

BTW take a look at what has happened to blacks since LBJ decided to help out the n....ers..

Here you need to take a history test:

HistoryTest


BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."



1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY

NOTE: All answers are "b."



10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party
 
I think that one of the worst myths to ever come along is that blacks need to be given charity in order to survive in "the white man's world."

All that has ever done is to keep blacks oppressed and living in poverty.

If you want to make it in this world, you must do so in the face of adversity. Is life easy for anyone?

No.

The ones who thrive, reach out and grab it by the horns ~
 
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I think that one of the worst myths to ever come along is that blacks need to be given charity in order to survive in "the white man's world."

All that has ever done is to keep blacks oppressed and living in poverty.

If you want to make it in this world, you must do so in the face of adversity. Is life easy for anyone?

No.

The ones who thrive, reach out and grab it by the horns ~

A hundred and fifty years ago, they did.

A slave caught with a book would be whipped. A slave trying to learn to read would get the same punishment.

Families of slaves were intentionally broken up. Their women were routinely taken away from them and sold or traded to another dimocrap slave owner if her master thought there was a relationship forming.

Children were ripped away from their Fathers routinely..... If they even knew who they were. Since there were no 'relationships' allowed and since women were usually given to the biggest and strongest slaves to breed with....

The "Black Irish" tradition of trying to breed Irish Men with black women was outlawed by The Crown and frowned on by dimocrap slavers, but black women were still often raped by their white masters.

Personal Hygiene was a foreign concept to dimocrap slave owners. As was education and the concept of 'family'.

Even DURING the time that slavery was legal and dimocrap slavers were the globe-trotting celebrities of the South and Europe it was thought, and said out loud, that the "Poor, Stupid, Unclean Black Savages were better off in the chains of slavery because they just wouldn't be able to survive without the loving care given to them by their white masters. Who only want the best for them anyhow."

Of course, their masters were dimocrap scumbags. And anybody meeting a Black Slave prior to the Civil War would meet a dirty, uneducated, beaten down, uncivilized near-savage of a man and the women weren't much (if any) better.

Because that's the way they were kept. On purpose. By their dimocrap maasters.

dimocraps haven't changed a bit. Not a bit. They are still the liars they were prior to us kicking the shit out of them in the Civil War and killing them by the bucket full.

They either blocked or tried to block all the Republican Civil Rights legislation in American History until LBJ hit upon the idea of buying their votes.... With the help of MLK who, in my opinion, ranks as one of the greatest traitors in World History. I'm talking Judas Iscariot level, folks.

But at that time, dimocrap scum had an unassailable majority and power due to the assassination of JFK. The Executive and Congress was TOTALLY in the hands of dimocrap scum and the usual Republicans who had tried to help Blacks for over 100 years were powerless in Washington DC.

So I can't blame MLK a whole lot.

Well, yes I can. He sold his people out for 30 pieces of silver, IMO.

LBJ is known for saying to a dimocrap scum Governor on his plane trip back to Washington after he cut the deal with MLK, "We'll have them ******* voting democrat for the next 200 years!!"

And he was right.

Blacks are still in chains on the dimocrap Plantation. Just the Plantation now is Dee-Troit, Newark, Chicago, Cleveland, Watts, etc and the only time dimocrap scum give a flying FUCK about them is around election time.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth.

Period
 
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Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.

This coming from the same guy who said this....

XXXXXXX

A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.
 
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Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.

This coming from the same guy who said this....

That's what happens when blacks run things.

A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.

I went to look at the 'quote' you referenced. It isn't there.

You got about one minute to explain before I notify the Moderators
 
Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.

This coming from the same guy who said this....

That's what happens when blacks run things.

A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.

I went to look at the 'quote' you referenced. It isn't there.

You got about one minute to explain before I notify the Moderators

Calm down, he said it in another thread. Ask him.

Do you need the link to calm you down big boy?

Here you go.... http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/153669-rnc-23-million-in-debt.html#post3281965
 
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I think that one of the worst myths to ever come along is that blacks need to be given charity in order to survive in "the white man's world."

All that has ever done is to keep blacks oppressed and living in poverty.

If you want to make it in this world, you must do so in the face of adversity. Is life easy for anyone?

No.

The ones who thrive, reach out and grab it by the horns ~

The Democrats seem to think so.
 
A good thread started by a good Conservative and the usual suspects show up to start a shit-slinging contest in an effort to get the thread moved.

Anybody out there listening????
 
Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.

This coming from the same guy who said this....

That's what happens when blacks run things.

A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.

Are you here for another ass-whipping? It is like you enjoy it.
Please tell me how Detroit disproves my thesis that cities and gov'ts run by blacks do not tend towards disaster.
Anyway, the OP is of course 180 degrees from the truth.
 
Crap coming out of Detroit about black people is reliably the opposite of the truth. No wonder those people are poor and oppressed. They've been sold a bill of goods by people who really do know better.
The OP is a tool.

This coming from the same guy who said this....

That's what happens when blacks run things.

A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.

Are you here for another ass-whipping? It is like you enjoy it.
Please tell me how Detroit disproves my thesis that cities and gov'ts run by blacks do not tend towards disaster.
Anyway, the OP is of course 180 degrees from the truth.

LOL. "I'm not a racist, I swear"
 
This coming from the same guy who said this....



A thread about black people for Rabbi is like a moth to a flame.

Are you here for another ass-whipping? It is like you enjoy it.
Please tell me how Detroit disproves my thesis that cities and gov'ts run by blacks do not tend towards disaster.
Anyway, the OP is of course 180 degrees from the truth.

LOL. "I'm not a racist, I swear"

Translation: No, I cannot disprove the thesis, despite 2 years' worth of attempts. I'll just pretend that any reference to black people is racist.
Thanks. Here's your butt yet again.
 
Are you here for another ass-whipping? It is like you enjoy it.
Please tell me how Detroit disproves my thesis that cities and gov'ts run by blacks do not tend towards disaster.
Anyway, the OP is of course 180 degrees from the truth.

LOL. "I'm not a racist, I swear"

Translation: No, I cannot disprove the thesis, despite 2 years' worth of attempts. I'll just pretend that any reference to black people is racist.
Thanks. Here's your butt yet again.

You just proved me right....again.

Idiot. :lol:
 
LOL. "I'm not a racist, I swear"

Translation: No, I cannot disprove the thesis, despite 2 years' worth of attempts. I'll just pretend that any reference to black people is racist.
Thanks. Here's your butt yet again.

You just proved me right....again.

Idiot. :lol:

No, i didnt.
You don't even know what you don't know. Merely asserting something isn't the same as proving it. You just make yourself look like an ignorant ass. IOW, it's perfect for you.
 
Translation: No, I cannot disprove the thesis, despite 2 years' worth of attempts. I'll just pretend that any reference to black people is racist.
Thanks. Here's your butt yet again.

You just proved me right....again.

Idiot. :lol:

No, i didnt.
You don't even know what you don't know. Merely asserting something isn't the same as proving it. You just make yourself look like an ignorant ass. IOW, it's perfect for you.

The fact that you continue to try and argue that black people are not good political leaders while not understanding that this proves you are in fact a racist, is pretty amazing.

Then again someone dumb enough to be a racist, such as yourself, wouldn't be able to make that sort of connection anyway.
 

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