Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

[CrusaderFrank]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

California has an economy equal to the 7th largest nation. Taiwan doesn't.

And no, Kentucky shouldn't have to pay for a train that only benefits California.

Beat me to it! GMTA

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

It makes more sense than spending trillions on high speed rail that no one will ever use.

 

[22lcidw]

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

You propose hundreds of trillions of dollars of pie in the sky agendas from your candidates and you bad mouth the Costa Rican Canal. That canl was proposed some years ago as it would be wider then the Panama Canal which was recently upgrades itself. I do not know if that would be the price to build but the ship or trade will then come to the southern ports instead of California. think of the massive upgrades those ports would get. And the job...oh the jobs. Newer highways and transportation systems also. Massive infrastructure upgrades would be part of the deal. The good thing is many states will get a piece of the pie. Their coastal cities sipping on the champagne of growth for their own economies. What I typed is vision. Vision for a part of the nation that constantly takes abuse from one of the political classes and its followers. What you will get is the same political clap trap. California….we duz not need you.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

It makes more sense than spending trillions on high speed rail that no one will ever use.

For the purposes of the US, neither makes a whole lot of sense. Well, at least you didn't resort to 7 year old recess name calling on this response.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

You propose hundreds of trillions of dollars of pie in the sky agendas from your candidates and you bad mouth the Costa Rican Canal. That canl was proposed some years ago as it would be wider then the Panama Canal which was recently upgrades itself. I do not know if that would be the price to build but the ship or trade will then come to the southern ports instead of California. think of the massive upgrades those ports would get. And the job...oh the jobs. Newer highways and transportation systems also. Massive infrastructure upgrades would be part of the deal. The good thing is many states will get a piece of the pie. Their coastal cities sipping on the champagne of growth for their own economies. What I typed is vision. Vision for a part of the nation that constantly takes abuse from one of the political classes and its followers. What you will get is the same political clap trap. California….we duz not need you.

I didn't propose spending a single dime on a High Speed Rail. I only commented on what it would take. You want to spend it on a canal through a God Forsaken, Crime Ridden Country that would take about a century to complete and cost trillions of dollars, go for it but not with one thin dime of my money. At least the High Speed Rail, no matter how unwise, could be done in about 10 years for a lot less. I don't see either being that wise. But your Canal would be not only the worst of the two but it would be still be being built 5 generations from now and still not completed. Your vision is tantamount to poking both of your eyes out and trying to describe the color purple.

 

[Dick Foster]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

If you can live in LA cheaper and make millions anually in SF then you travel from one shithole to the other. SF's biggest growing housing market today is it's homeless communities.

 

[Rustic]

Easement issues are the biggest thing, no one wants that shit through their land... lol

 

[martybegan]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Their expenses are their own fault, due to their apparent need to spend money trying to fix problems spending money caused in the first place.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

You pwned yourself. Amazing.

You ignorantly pointed to an economy a fraction of the size of CA and whined that CA couldn't build a railroad without their Daddy's money.

You should be in the dictionary under "Self Pwned"

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

You pwned yourself. Amazing.

You ignorantly pointed to an economy a fraction of the size of CA and whined that CA couldn't build a railroad without their Daddy's money.

You should be in the dictionary under "Self Pwned"

Since you can't find a 4 by 6 card to cover a response, you dig up one of your tired, over used, insult cards.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

You pwned yourself. Amazing.

You ignorantly pointed to an economy a fraction of the size of CA and whined that CA couldn't build a railroad without their Daddy's money.

You should be in the dictionary under "Self Pwned"

Since you can't find a 4 by 6 card to cover a response, you dig up one of your tired, over used, insult cards.

I have no idea why you would want to keep highlighting maybe your worst moment on the Internet.

You're the same group that crows about how great CA is, how it's an economic powerhouse and big contributor to the economy, until you get beat by a country 1/5 your size and you cry how "it's too hard, we can't do it"

 

[22lcidw]

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

You propose hundreds of trillions of dollars of pie in the sky agendas from your candidates and you bad mouth the Costa Rican Canal. That canl was proposed some years ago as it would be wider then the Panama Canal which was recently upgrades itself. I do not know if that would be the price to build but the ship or trade will then come to the southern ports instead of California. think of the massive upgrades those ports would get. And the job...oh the jobs. Newer highways and transportation systems also. Massive infrastructure upgrades would be part of the deal. The good thing is many states will get a piece of the pie. Their coastal cities sipping on the champagne of growth for their own economies. What I typed is vision. Vision for a part of the nation that constantly takes abuse from one of the political classes and its followers. What you will get is the same political clap trap. California….we duz not need you.

I didn't propose spending a single dime on a High Speed Rail. I only commented on what it would take. You want to spend it on a canal through a God Forsaken, Crime Ridden Country that would take about a century to complete and cost trillions of dollars, go for it but not with one thin dime of my money. At least the High Speed Rail, no matter how unwise, could be done in about 10 years for a lot less. I don't see either being that wise. But your Canal would be not only the worst of the two but it would be still be being built 5 generations from now and still not completed. Your vision is tantamount to poking both of your eyes out and trying to describe the color purple.

Your the one who is saying it is going to cost trillions and trillions of dollars and take many decades and kill hundreds of thousands of people to build a canal. The high speed rail works best in a near straightaway. Not fifty miles then a hard left then forty miles and a hard right and then a semi circle for thirty miles and so on. People don't want this stuff. They do not use it except for local urban transportation. The taxpayer ends up being gouged. We have on here in central Florida that is another white elephant. They were told but did not listen. They are going to build one that goes from south Florida up to here and who knows where else. Another white elephant. For cargo it is good. You do not like the South. You do not like Southerners. You brag about California. Well it has some things going for it. Removing one of them to share the wealth a bit with those no good southern states seems to sting you. Don't worry. The sell outs of our ruling class will not let it get done. It makes sense. But then again, you can take a shit on a San Francisco street legally and get arrested for nudity or whatever in the woods somewhere else for doing the same.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

You pwned yourself. Amazing.

You ignorantly pointed to an economy a fraction of the size of CA and whined that CA couldn't build a railroad without their Daddy's money.

You should be in the dictionary under "Self Pwned"

Since you can't find a 4 by 6 card to cover a response, you dig up one of your tired, over used, insult cards.

I have no idea why you would want to keep highlighting maybe your worst moment on the Internet.

You're the same group that crows about how great CA is, how it's an economic powerhouse and big contributor to the economy, until you get beat by a country 1/5 your size and you cry how "it's too hard, we can't do it"

What is that, card #45 of the 4x6 card deck when you just got your butt handed to you?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

You propose hundreds of trillions of dollars of pie in the sky agendas from your candidates and you bad mouth the Costa Rican Canal. That canl was proposed some years ago as it would be wider then the Panama Canal which was recently upgrades itself. I do not know if that would be the price to build but the ship or trade will then come to the southern ports instead of California. think of the massive upgrades those ports would get. And the job...oh the jobs. Newer highways and transportation systems also. Massive infrastructure upgrades would be part of the deal. The good thing is many states will get a piece of the pie. Their coastal cities sipping on the champagne of growth for their own economies. What I typed is vision. Vision for a part of the nation that constantly takes abuse from one of the political classes and its followers. What you will get is the same political clap trap. California….we duz not need you.

I didn't propose spending a single dime on a High Speed Rail. I only commented on what it would take. You want to spend it on a canal through a God Forsaken, Crime Ridden Country that would take about a century to complete and cost trillions of dollars, go for it but not with one thin dime of my money. At least the High Speed Rail, no matter how unwise, could be done in about 10 years for a lot less. I don't see either being that wise. But your Canal would be not only the worst of the two but it would be still be being built 5 generations from now and still not completed. Your vision is tantamount to poking both of your eyes out and trying to describe the color purple.

Your the one who is saying it is going to cost trillions and trillions of dollars and take many decades and kill hundreds of thousands of people to build a canal. The high speed rail works best in a near straightaway. Not fifty miles then a hard left then forty miles and a hard right and then a semi circle for thirty miles and so on. People don't want this stuff. They do not use it except for local urban transportation. The taxpayer ends up being gouged. We have on here in central Florida that is another white elephant. They were told but did not listen. They are going to build one that goes from south Florida up to here and who knows where else. Another white elephant. For cargo it is good. You do not like the South. You do not like Southerners. You brag about California. Well it has some things going for it. Removing one of them to share the wealth a bit with those no good southern states seems to sting you. Don't worry. The sell outs of our ruling class will not let it get done. It makes sense. But then again, you can take a shit on a San Francisco street legally and get arrested for nudity or whatever in the woods somewhere else for doing the same.

That's some handy 4x6 card you have there

You ___________________________(fill in claim here) say _______________________(fill in lie here).

I don't speak kindly of California. You have me mistaken for a Kalifonian. So you may wish to change to another 4x6 card and try again. Maybe have your handler send you another one that is updated for someone not from california.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

 

[OnePercenter]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

actually, Taiwan uses its own tax dollars for these purposes while california has to send ITS tax dollars to washington so that trump can send it to alabama and louisiana and to midwestern farmers who have been hurt by his tariffs.....

he needs to use socialism to transfer MY money to his voters so they can vote for him again in 2020 because they HATE socialism.....

The high speed rail has been a waste for decades. Long before Trump.