Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

 

[MAGAman]

Could it be that Rump removed the money that was promised California to work on finishing the Rail? Or could it be that the California Government figured out that the money they were going to spend could be better spent somewhere else? Could it be that where you live, the fact you don't have high speed rail, means that you aren't any smarter? Could it be that you are dumber than a box of rocks and are just repeating the BS that you are fed?

No. None of your lame excuses for Progressives being themselves could be.

Reality is that it was a bullshit scheme to enrich Democrat donars with taxpayer $s.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

2 hours 45 minutes with stops along the way.

Yes, the flight itself is only 45 minutes but you will have another hour of other time involved. on both ends. That's 30 minutes on each end with 45 minutes of actual flight time. That means Air saved less than an hour over HSR.

The advantage of Air and HSR is, you get there refreshed and can have a car waiting for you. With HSR, you can go directly from the HSR car directly to the area where the car is waiting for you with no delays.

 

[OnePercenter]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

If you were an American you would know that you can't get Americans out of their cars unless it costs to much to park it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

2 hours 45 minutes with stops along the way.

Yes, the flight itself is only 45 minutes but you will have another hour of other time involved. on both ends. That's 30 minutes on each end with 45 minutes of actual flight time. That means Air saved less than an hour over HSR.

The advantage of Air and HSR is, you get there refreshed and can have a car waiting for you. With HSR, you can go directly from the HSR car directly to the area where the car is waiting for you with no delays.

If you’ve ever taken rail, 2:40 ain’t happening.
And you don’t have a car waiting for you. You must wait for a shuttle, stand in long lines, and find your car.
Most will continue to drive.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

If you were an American you would know that you can't get Americans out of their cars unless it costs to much to park it.

You say that likes it’s a bad thing.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Actually the republican s are doing more to impede the rail than democrats. In fact corporations are impeding way more than them.

California is a DEMOCRAT SUPER MAJORITY IN ALL 3 BRANCHES, shitforbrains. Thanks for the stupidest lie possible to spin for them. Hilarious.

Well I guess you have no real idea what the hangups for project are then as you refuse to admit republicans are the problem.

tax to you and those with your mindset republicans are responsible for anything negative happening....people like you and your brethren righties who blame democrats for everything are part of the problem with this country...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Correction. My state has already put in one light rail line.

Do you understand that light rail is nothing whatsoever like high-speed rail?

 

[22lcidw]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

 

[OnePercenter]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

If you were an American you would know that you can't get Americans out of their cars unless it costs to much to park it.

You say that likes it’s a bad thing.

You admit you're a non-American troll.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

If you were an American you would know that you can't get Americans out of their cars unless it costs to much to park it.

You say that likes it’s a bad thing.

You admit you're a non-American troll.

Hey, watch it. I am an American Ogre. Please keep pointing out the trolls so I can expand my Rolodex and my lunch menu.

 

[WillPower]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

Riiiiight....if that were true why does Amtrak lose millions a year because nobody other than drug mules, outside the NE corridor. wants to ride on a train anymore?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

My state has been controlled by democrats much longer than California.

We are building light rail right now. The project will be completed in a couple years.

Light rail and high speed rail are about as similar as a Formula One race car and a horse and wagon.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Correction. My state has already put in one light rail line.

We started it at the end of the bush boy years. It's been completed for along time. It goes from downtown to the airport.

It's been very successful. To the point that we voted to impose new taxes on our property and vehicles to pay for a much bigger light rail system. That tax isn't imposed on the whole state. Just the counties that the light rail is being built.

There were no federal dollars involved for the first one and there are no federal dollars involved with the system we are building now.

so what is this state you keep mentioning?...

He lives in Denial, like most libtards.

 

[Oddball]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because Taiwan is a postage stamp in comparison, and Muricans will not abandon the freedom that comes from their cars.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Correction. My state has already put in one light rail line.

Do you understand that light rail is nothing whatsoever like high-speed rail?

I thought about telling him that we put in light rail at our zoo. Even that was shut down for months because the damn thing derailed and hurt a bunch of people.

 

[martybegan]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

Also there is demand in Taiwan for fast travel over the distances that make high speed rail practical.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all