Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

[Yarddog]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Mexicans can't speak Chinese.

That doesn't stop them from working at Panda Express

 

[Yarddog]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

My state has been controlled by democrats much longer than California.

We are building light rail right now. The project will be completed in a couple years.

we have light rail here in parts of california too. What state do you live in?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

 

[theHawk]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

 

[Yarddog]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

The California High Speed Rail Authority has been found to be completely incompetent. They had no experience and were taking on a project way over their head. A project put together by the promises of politicians who really had no idea of the realities but just figured someone else would straighten it out.
Taiwan is also very densely populated compared to California and that makes a rail system more efficient. It serves more people at each stop. California needed to be realistic and take on a smaller HS rail project, gained experience and then go to the next step. It was doomed to fail from the onset because the promises were not honest.

Fast Train to Failure


"The CHSRA has also wasted large sums of money through poor management. Tillier has detailed how the Authority plans to spend billions to outfit Bay Area stations with unnecessary tunnels and viaducts, rather than making elementary improvements to operations. A state audit has shown that the CHSRA knowingly incurred massive additional cost risks by starting construction prematurely; desperate to show progress and to meet a deadline for federal funds, the CHSRA began construction in the Central Valley without buying all the land it needed, or even completing negotiations with the freight railroads whose rights-of-way it planned to use. "

 

[Dana7360]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

 

[Yarddog]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Taiwan is only about 250 miles long and 100 miles wide.... so why did they get HS rail? sure, smaller states can have it too if they have large population centers. And if Democrats were completely in power as you wish, they could never afford the rail systems, while they were spending 100 Trillion on implementing the green new deal, implementing health care for all and school for anyone who shows up in the country, citizen or not.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

My state has been controlled by democrats much longer than California.

We are building light rail right now. The project will be completed in a couple years.

we have light rail here in parts of california too. What state do you live in?

Light rail is the lowest form of railroads. Try again. Topic is high speed rail.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

actually, Taiwan uses its own tax dollars for these purposes while california has to send ITS tax dollars to washington so that trump can send it to alabama and louisiana and to midwestern farmers who have been hurt by his tariffs.....

he needs to use socialism to transfer MY money to his voters so they can vote for him again in 2020 because they HATE socialism.....

So let’s run with your BS. Congress allocates the budget. So Democrats screw their voters to send the money to Red States. And you call us morons.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Correction. My state has already put in one light rail line.

We started it at the end of the bush boy years. It's been completed for along time. It goes from downtown to the airport.

It's been very successful. To the point that we voted to impose new taxes on our property and vehicles to pay for a much bigger light rail system. That tax isn't imposed on the whole state. Just the counties that the light rail is being built.

There were no federal dollars involved for the first one and there are no federal dollars involved with the system we are building now.

so what is this state you keep mentioning?...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

Hilarious. What else did you read on Kos?

 

[Tax Man]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Actually the republican s are doing more to impede the rail than democrats. In fact corporations are impeding way more than them.

 

[theHawk]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

Then why can’t they pay for a stupid rail for themselves? Just tax them more, California has one of the highest income inequality gaps you leftwing scammers claim you hate.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Actually the republican s are doing more to impede the rail than democrats. In fact corporations are impeding way more than them.

California is a DEMOCRAT SUPER MAJORITY IN ALL 3 BRANCHES, shitforbrains. Thanks for the stupidest lie possible to spin for them. Hilarious.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

I agree that it should be done on the national level but it's not required.

My state is doing it right now. We aren't getting any federal dollars for it. We voted to impose new taxes on property and vehicles to pay for it.

The construction started over a year ago. It's going very well. It should be finished in a couple of years.

Republicans have not had any power in my state since the mid 80s. Which means we have quietly spent the last few decades doing things that the rest of the nation only dreams of doing.

If you have the ballot initiative in your state and it's not controlled by those who believe taxes are evil, you too can have the 21st century state just like my state. You don't need to wait for politicians in your state. The people can do it themselves if you have the ballot initiative.

You do need to reduce conservative power to it's barest minimum so they can't sabotage progress to move your state into the 21st century.

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Because California is controlled by retards.

Those retards pay more federal taxes than any other state. In fact, they pay more federal taxes than all the Red States put together. If California were to secede all the Red States would dry up and blow away from lack of funding. Sounds to me like you are biting the hand that feeds hour ungrateful ass.

Then why can’t they pay for a stupid rail for themselves? Just tax them more, California has one of the highest income inequality gaps you leftwing scammers claim you hate.

California is an Automobile Society, that's why. In order to justify it, they would have to break away for their cars. In the East (especially in places like NYC) many don't even own cars and depend on public transportation. We live in a different locate but we are an automobile society here as well.

 

[Tax Man]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Actually the republican s are doing more to impede the rail than democrats. In fact corporations are impeding way more than them.

California is a DEMOCRAT SUPER MAJORITY IN ALL 3 BRANCHES, shitforbrains. Thanks for the stupidest lie possible to spin for them. Hilarious.

Well I guess you have no real idea what the hangups for project are then as you refuse to admit republicans are the problem.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

actually, Taiwan uses its own tax dollars for these purposes while california has to send ITS tax dollars to washington so that trump can send it to alabama and louisiana and to midwestern farmers who have been hurt by his tariffs.....

he needs to use socialism to transfer MY money to his voters so they can vote for him again in 2020 because they HATE socialism.....

Me thinks you need to read the Constitution, kid

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Actually the republican s are doing more to impede the rail than democrats. In fact corporations are impeding way more than them.

California is a DEMOCRAT SUPER MAJORITY IN ALL 3 BRANCHES, shitforbrains. Thanks for the stupidest lie possible to spin for them. Hilarious.

Well I guess you have no real idea what the hangups for project are then as you refuse to admit republicans are the problem.

It’s 100% owned by Democrats, Dufus.