Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Is that #46 or #47 4x6 card?

It reads
__________________________(insert subject matter here)........ _____________________________ (enter lie here)..........Democrats.............________________________(insert more lies here). Yah, that's #46.

 

[Dick Foster]

You are confusing light rail with high speed rail. We have light rail here and have for quite a few years. It was done through state, county and city funding. And light rail is a very short line. The cost for light rail is only a fraction of the cost of high speed rail.

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

If you can live in LA cheaper and make millions anually in SF then you travel from one shithole to the other. SF's biggest growing housing market today is it's homeless communities.

Well I think its academic because they were in deep shit anyway. As I recall it was supposed to be an electric powered train like so many others in developed nations around the world. At least every high speed train I've been on in Europe and Asia were electric. However here I sit in the dark in third world shithole California for the third time in two weeks with no power except that from my propane fueled home generator. Maybe they were planning on a wind powered train with sails or something. If they can't even keep the damn lights on, how in hell were the dumbshits supposed to run a high speed train?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Because Taiwan isn’t controlled by Democrats, duh.

Taiwan built high-speed rail, why can’t California?

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Is that #46 or #47 4x6 card?

It reads
__________________________(insert subject matter here)........ _____________________________ (enter lie here)..........Democrats.............________________________(insert more lies here). Yah, that's #46.

Calif High Speed Rail is 100% Democrat owned, shitforbrains.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

 

[Weatherman2020]

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

The LA - SF run was supposed to have been completed before Trump even became President.

Democrats promised it would cost $9B and be running by 2016.

It’s almost 2020 and it’s $100B and no tracks to run a train.

God Bless Trump for canceling $935M.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Oh ok I see what you mean.

High speed rail can only be done in areas like California or Texas that have a lot of miles to cover. There's no need for high speed rail in smaller states because there's not a lot of miles to cover in a short time like California or Texas.

And you're right. It can only be done on a federal level.

As long as republicans and conservatives have any power in government high speed rail will never happen.

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

If you can live in LA cheaper and make millions anually in SF then you travel from one shithole to the other. SF's biggest growing housing market today is it's homeless communities.

Well I think its academic because they were in deep shit anyway. As I recall it was supposed to be an electric powered train like so many others in developed nations around the world. At least every high speed train I've been on in Europe and Asia were electric. However here I sit in the dark in third world shithole California for the third time in two weeks with no power except that from my propane fueled home generator. Maybe they were planning on a wind powered train with sails or something. If they can't even keep the damn lights on, how in hell were the dumbshits supposed to run a high speed train?

Okay, shit for brains. It's not due to lack of power. It's due to not allowing electricity to burn the friggin state down. This year, since they started doing that, the wild fires have been very tame as compared to last year that damned near burned down the state. You get a wild fire, it burns a power grid that sparks another wild fire which ......repeat as necessary. In Colorado, we cut power and have for years in fire conditions when a wild fire goes crazy. The only difference is, we don't bitch about it and blame the "Democrats". We blame the Fire and break out the Candles or go and visit Aunt Maude. Just maybe there will be a house to come back to. And the last thing we do is fire up anything with Propane attached to it. Damn, that's stupid.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

The LA - SF run was supposed to have been completed before Trump even became President.

Democrats promised it would cost $9B and be running by 2016.

It’s almost 2020 and it’s $100B and no tracks to run a train.

God Bless Trump for canceling $935M.

Yes, that's #147 4x6 Rump Card. Just fill in the lie. I haven't seen a figure blown out of proportion that bad since.....well, the last time you characters blew something out of proportion.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

The LA - SF run was supposed to have been completed before Trump even became President.

Democrats promised it would cost $9B and be running by 2016.

It’s almost 2020 and it’s $100B and no tracks to run a train.

God Bless Trump for canceling $935M.

Yes, that's #147 4x6 Rump Card. Just fill in the lie. I haven't seen a figure blown out of proportion that bad since.....well, the last time you characters blew something out of proportion.

Don’t get pissed at me for calling your bullshit.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

The LA - SF run was supposed to have been completed before Trump even became President.

Democrats promised it would cost $9B and be running by 2016.

It’s almost 2020 and it’s $100B and no tracks to run a train.

God Bless Trump for canceling $935M.

Yes, that's #147 4x6 Rump Card. Just fill in the lie. I haven't seen a figure blown out of proportion that bad since.....well, the last time you characters blew something out of proportion.

Don’t get pissed at me for calling your bullshit.

Oh, I see. I call your BS and you pull out 4x6 card #285 that your handler conveniently provided for you to claim that you are calling the other persons BS. Sorry, I am not pissed at you. I don't get pissed at small children. But I do wonder if you have a parent around somewhere or are you just homeless and should we call child services.

 

[Dick Foster]

Step 1, stop with the political finger pointing. Both sides. California's seaboard as well as the Eastern Seaboard can benefit from a high speed rail. But you have to completely build a HS Rail system where there is no cold weather as in snow and ice. That means if you are going to build in the northern areas, it has to be covered. Places like Japan and Taiwan really don't have much for snowfall where they built their high speed rails. Same goes for China. The cost of building a HSR is many times that of building a freight or a conventional passenger service due to the rails have to be straight, smooth and extremely reinforced. The curves have to be extremely gently, etc.. And you can't run anything else anywhere near them.

The good news is, if you can get a HSR to do 200 mph on the average, for a 300 mile trip it's actually going to be equal or faster than air travel since the air travel has a lot of loiter time involved that the HSR doesn't have. The Terminal would be simpler and less costly. And after the initial cost of building, the operation would be far cheaper for the HSR. Now, if you were to try and compare it on a 1000 mile run, the Air becomes faster but is by far more expensive. The 1000 mile HSR would be about 5 hours while the Air would be about 3. And the longer the distance, the higher the difference. But the cost factor would still be in the HSR's favor.

But you also have areas that HSR can never be done. For instance, where I live. The Rocky Mountains would be just too expensive. You couldn't put a surface HSR. You would have to have some mighty long and expensive tunnels for hundreds of miles. It's one thing to put a subway in where the ground is soft like on the coast but we have solid Granite here. It's a tough dig and more than a few hundred feet is just not economically feasable.

The option here would be the Vacuum Tube built on the surface using short tunnels. But in the end, Air, normal rail and auto travel will still be the king.

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

If you can live in LA cheaper and make millions anually in SF then you travel from one shithole to the other. SF's biggest growing housing market today is it's homeless communities.

Well I think its academic because they were in deep shit anyway. As I recall it was supposed to be an electric powered train like so many others in developed nations around the world. At least every high speed train I've been on in Europe and Asia were electric. However here I sit in the dark in third world shithole California for the third time in two weeks with no power except that from my propane fueled home generator. Maybe they were planning on a wind powered train with sails or something. If they can't even keep the damn lights on, how in hell were the dumbshits supposed to run a high speed train?

Okay, shit for brains. It's not due to lack of power. It's due to not allowing electricity to burn the friggin state down. This year, since they started doing that, the wild fires have been very tame as compared to last year that damned near burned down the state. You get a wild fire, it burns a power grid that sparks another wild fire which ......repeat as necessary. In Colorado, we cut power and have for years in fire conditions when a wild fire goes crazy. The only difference is, we don't bitch about it and blame the "Democrats". We blame the Fire and break out the Candles or go and visit Aunt Maude. Just maybe there will be a house to come back to. And the last thing we do is fire up anything with Propane attached to it. Damn, that's stupid.

Oh really! How the hell is it that the power can stay on when the wind blows a little everywhere else asshole?
BTW dumbass, I happen to have a weather station that logs and records wind speed and direction along with other key meteorological measurements. Care to hazard a guess as to the highest wind speed I've recorded during these so called events?
Only someone with pure shit for brains buys their load of crap and I suppose that includes you.
I had better power service in the Phillipines, another third world nation. At least they don't have shit in the streets or as much crime as this shithole and I'm beginning to suspect the population as a whole just may be smarter too.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Advertised time from LA to SF is 2 hours 40 minutes. Real world it will be 4-6 hours.

But let’s run with 2:40.

LA-SF flight: 45 minutes
LA-SF drive: 6 hours and you have your car when you arrive.

Then there's the larger question, why leave one shithole just to travel to another?

If you can live in LA cheaper and make millions anually in SF then you travel from one shithole to the other. SF's biggest growing housing market today is it's homeless communities.

Well I think its academic because they were in deep shit anyway. As I recall it was supposed to be an electric powered train like so many others in developed nations around the world. At least every high speed train I've been on in Europe and Asia were electric. However here I sit in the dark in third world shithole California for the third time in two weeks with no power except that from my propane fueled home generator. Maybe they were planning on a wind powered train with sails or something. If they can't even keep the damn lights on, how in hell were the dumbshits supposed to run a high speed train?

Okay, shit for brains. It's not due to lack of power. It's due to not allowing electricity to burn the friggin state down. This year, since they started doing that, the wild fires have been very tame as compared to last year that damned near burned down the state. You get a wild fire, it burns a power grid that sparks another wild fire which ......repeat as necessary. In Colorado, we cut power and have for years in fire conditions when a wild fire goes crazy. The only difference is, we don't bitch about it and blame the "Democrats". We blame the Fire and break out the Candles or go and visit Aunt Maude. Just maybe there will be a house to come back to. And the last thing we do is fire up anything with Propane attached to it. Damn, that's stupid.

Oh really! How the hell is it that the power can stay on when the wind blows a little everywhere else asshole?
BTW dumbass, I happen to have a weather station that logs and records wind speed and direction along with other key meteorological measurements. Care to hazard a guess as to the highest wind speed I've recorded during these so called events?
Only someone with pure shit for brains buys their load of crap and I suppose that includes you.
I had better power service in the Phillipines, another third world nation. At least they don't have shit in the streets or as much crime as this shithole and I'm beginning to suspect the population as a whole just may be smarter too.

Don't let the Sampan hit you in the ass.

 

[OnePercenter]

Here is a pretty good reason. A High Speed Rail can only be built if it's put on a National Level. And then Nationally funded. That means that it has to be done at a Federal Level. It's expensive and intensive. ALL the successful high speed rails are Nationally supported and always will be. Or at least until they get the point of reach self sufficiency. Until the Feds pony up with a whole bunch of billions of bucks on a yearly basis, there just won't be a high speed rail.

CA has an economy 6 times that of Taiwan. What Taiwan lacks is Socialist democrat Hate America leadership

Maybe you just need to stop being a know it all

CA also has expenses at least 6 times as much as Taiwan. Does it need a High Speed Rail? Does the Eastern Sea Board need one? Or do we need to take care of other problems first. I vote for taking care of other problems. But that is just me.

Hey, I can't help it that your handlers haven't given you the correct 4 by 6 cards to cover any of this.

Nobody’s fault but Democrats of California for willingly overpaying money to their comrades for doing nothing.

Again with the commie generalized statements? Which "overpaying" are you writing of?

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

You don't think $250M per mile for true high speed through mountains and equipment and right-of-ways and first two year operations is expensive?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If California left, I guarantee you that there would be new agreements for trade and open sea lanes to start. The Costa Rican Canal would be built and if California tried to stop it, a war would be declared.

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

It makes more sense than spending trillions on high speed rail that no one will ever use.

For the purposes of the US, neither makes a whole lot of sense. Well, at least you didn't resort to 7 year old recess name calling on this response.

I didn't call names, yet you did! I don't call names, but I do describe the idiocy I see in your posts most of the time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

You propose hundreds of trillions of dollars of pie in the sky agendas from your candidates and you bad mouth the Costa Rican Canal. That canl was proposed some years ago as it would be wider then the Panama Canal which was recently upgrades itself. I do not know if that would be the price to build but the ship or trade will then come to the southern ports instead of California. think of the massive upgrades those ports would get. And the job...oh the jobs. Newer highways and transportation systems also. Massive infrastructure upgrades would be part of the deal. The good thing is many states will get a piece of the pie. Their coastal cities sipping on the champagne of growth for their own economies. What I typed is vision. Vision for a part of the nation that constantly takes abuse from one of the political classes and its followers. What you will get is the same political clap trap. California….we duz not need you.

I didn't propose spending a single dime on a High Speed Rail. I only commented on what it would take. You want to spend it on a canal through a God Forsaken, Crime Ridden Country that would take about a century to complete and cost trillions of dollars, go for it but not with one thin dime of my money. At least the High Speed Rail, no matter how unwise, could be done in about 10 years for a lot less. I don't see either being that wise. But your Canal would be not only the worst of the two but it would be still be being built 5 generations from now and still not completed. Your vision is tantamount to poking both of your eyes out and trying to describe the color purple.

Your the one who is saying it is going to cost trillions and trillions of dollars and take many decades and kill hundreds of thousands of people to build a canal. The high speed rail works best in a near straightaway. Not fifty miles then a hard left then forty miles and a hard right and then a semi circle for thirty miles and so on. People don't want this stuff. They do not use it except for local urban transportation. The taxpayer ends up being gouged. We have on here in central Florida that is another white elephant. They were told but did not listen. They are going to build one that goes from south Florida up to here and who knows where else. Another white elephant. For cargo it is good. You do not like the South. You do not like Southerners. You brag about California. Well it has some things going for it. Removing one of them to share the wealth a bit with those no good southern states seems to sting you. Don't worry. The sell outs of our ruling class will not let it get done. It makes sense. But then again, you can take a shit on a San Francisco street legally and get arrested for nudity or whatever in the woods somewhere else for doing the same.

That's some handy 4x6 card you have there

You ___________________________(fill in claim here) say _______________________(fill in lie here).

I don't speak kindly of California. You have me mistaken for a Kalifonian. So you may wish to change to another 4x6 card and try again. Maybe have your handler send you another one that is updated for someone not from california.

He doesn't need a 4 X 6 card. A postage stamp would dwarf your knowledge of the topic.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CA is quickly becoming America's Venezuela

 

[skookerasbil]

st00pid

Check out AMTRAK.....lol....what a fucking disaster!

 

[skookerasbil]

Amtrak Turns 40...Called a 'Massive Failure' by its Founder

 

[Weatherman2020]

Voters were told the cost would be $9B and passed it.

It’s over $100B and 7 years behind schedule and not even a train to run yet.

And exactly what program lately has actually come either within budget or below budget on ANYTHING. And if you haven't noticed, part of that 9 bil was just removed by Rump so they don't have that 100B or even the 9B. Rump cancalled the 935 million promised this year and now he wants the over 5 billion returned they already spent. To date, they have spent a total of about 9 billion on the project on the first 119 miles for the track and bridges. The amounts are all over the place and it all depends on who is telling the story. Your numbers are as good as any ones. But they haven't spent more than 9 billion even when you take the worst numbers presented.And the 100 bil is for the entire route.

The only real sin here is that California didn't contact the contractors in Texas who are the PROs in the US in High Speed Rails. California tried to learn from the ground up. There are conflicting stories as to whether it's cancelled or not. California says it's not and they are looking for alternative funds. But Rump says that it is and he demands all funds be returned. And we all know that he NEVER lies.

The LA - SF run was supposed to have been completed before Trump even became President.

Democrats promised it would cost $9B and be running by 2016.

It’s almost 2020 and it’s $100B and no tracks to run a train.

God Bless Trump for canceling $935M.

Yes, that's #147 4x6 Rump Card. Just fill in the lie. I haven't seen a figure blown out of proportion that bad since.....well, the last time you characters blew something out of proportion.

Don’t get pissed at me for calling your bullshit.

Oh, I see. I call your BS and you pull out 4x6 card #285 that your handler conveniently provided for you to claim that you are calling the other persons BS. Sorry, I am not pissed at you. I don't get pissed at small children. But I do wonder if you have a parent around somewhere or are you just homeless and should we call child services.

Your knowledge of CA HSR is pathetic.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Newsflash: Costa Rica is in the Atlantic and California has nothing to do with that. Last time I checked California bordered the Pacific. Geographics aren't your strong suit is it.

You really enjoy showing off how truly stupid you are!

Yes, you can build a Canal across Costa Rica. Got a few Trillion burning a hole in your pocket? How about the hundreds of dead and sick from the Jungle Diseases. Or can you Rightwing Nutjobs just keep polluting the world until the northwest corridor is open and ship through the corridor above Canada.

It makes more sense than spending trillions on high speed rail that no one will ever use.

For the purposes of the US, neither makes a whole lot of sense. Well, at least you didn't resort to 7 year old recess name calling on this response.

I didn't call names, yet you did! I don't call names, but I do describe the idiocy I see in your posts most of the time.

Standard ultra rightwing debating method. Do something and then claim the other side does it all the time. Sorry, we ain't buying it anymore.