Suddenly, some Repubs are sounding a lot like Bernie.

[Andylusion]

GOP senator's coronavirus plan: Get federal government to cover 80 percent of wages.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) wants the United States to follow Europe’s lead. That’s not something conservatives like him normally say, but he believes desperate times call for desperate measures.

The rising star on the right proposes that the federal government replicate what’s been working in the United Kingdom to keep layoffs limited and immediately begin covering 80 percent of worker wages at all private businesses, up to the national median wage, until the emergency caused by the novel coronavirus is over. He also advocates paying financial bonuses for businesses to rehire workers laid off over the past month.
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The magnitude of the impact to the economy from fighting the virus is truly unprecedented. The rationale for throwing the kitchen sink at preventing what would be a depression without government intervention is ultimately it is cheaper to prevent one than try to recover from one.
What I find telling is how quickly Repubs (who make claims to fiscal responsibility when a Dem is in the WH) propose what can fairly be described as socialist remedies under Repub admins. No amount of government debt is too much for a Repub when his party is at risk of being held accountable for a massive economic downturn.
When Shrub was prez, facing the start of a deep recession, Dems cooperated in passing TARP. When Obama took office and the Bush recession was in full swing, no Repub supported the stimulus package. Using the pretense it was too costly. How times have changed.

This is terrible. Any Republican that votes this way, I'll vote against. They will destroy this country, and we'll end up being Venezuela. That's where Bernie ideology leads.

 

[Cecilie1200]

and helping suffering people out during a national emergency.

Helping them with free stuff

No, more like paying them for what the government was forced to take away. I get why you wouldn't understand the difference between giving money to people who were working until the government killed their jobs, and giving money to people who do jack shit of value with their lives, since you fall into the latter category.

You’re prejudice is showing. So is your ignorance.

Just a tip: "Ignorance" is not defined as "believing things that Colfax doesn't like". And "prejudice" isn't defined as "using logic Colfax is too stupid to follow."

Let me break it down for the thinking-impaired in the room (and I do mean you). I have a good job, one which I worked hard to become qualified for and to get. I happen to be among the fortunate people whose jobs are classified as essential, so I'm still working. But what if I was one of the tens of millions of people who are now unemployed, through no fault of their own and through no fault of their employers? My job would be gone for one reason: because the government shut down the economy to fight SARS-CoV2. The government would have taken my job and my income.

What the government is giving back is only a fraction of what it took, and it certainly ain't "free stuff" if I have to trade a good job and a steady income for it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What happened to the national debt?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

And plunging the world into a second Great Depression would help that how?

What do you think happens when you keep printing money to pay for indebtedness and inflation starts setting in?

 

[berg80]

What the government is giving back is only a fraction of what it took

That's some very deceptive semantic phrasing you've used there.

Which is more responsible? Shutting down the economy to save lives and ultimately allow the economy to start back up earlier, or not shut it down causing hundreds of thousands more deaths and a likely depression?

 

[berg80]

What do you think happens when you keep printing money to pay for indebtedness and inflation starts setting in?

What do you think eventually happens to interest rates when Repubs pass a tax cut that increases the national debt in order to fuel the economy on borrowed money so the Repub prez has an "achievement" to point to?

 

[Cecilie1200]

What happened to the national debt?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

And plunging the world into a second Great Depression would help that how?

What do you think happens when you keep printing money to pay for indebtedness and inflation starts setting in?

What do you think happens when you shut down the economy and leave everyone unemployed with no income?

 

[Cecilie1200]

What the government is giving back is only a fraction of what it took

That's some very deceptive semantic phrasing you've used there.

Which is more responsible? Shutting down the economy to save lives and ultimately allow the economy to start back up earlier, or not shut it down causing hundreds of thousands more deaths and a likely depression?

Nothing deceptive about it, Chuckles. It's a statement of fact. And I never said I disagreed with what the government did, so spare me the attempt to build a straw man there. I just stated that this is an economic crisis caused by the government, so the government has a responsibility to compensate the people harmed by it, at least a little. That is in direct opposition to the leftist/socialist notion of just handing out money to people for breathing, and doing so on an indefinite basis.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What do you think happens when you keep printing money to pay for indebtedness and inflation starts setting in?

What do you think eventually happens to interest rates when Repubs pass a tax cut that increases the national debt in order to fuel the economy on borrowed money so the Repub prez has an "achievement" to point to?

Nothing, because tax cuts don't increase the national debt. Out-of-control spending does.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What happened to the national debt?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

And plunging the world into a second Great Depression would help that how?

What do you think happens when you keep printing money to pay for indebtedness and inflation starts setting in?

What do you think happens when you shut down the economy and leave everyone unemployed with no income?

I know exactly what happens, which is why I opposed it being shut down in the first place

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Suddenly, some Repubs are sounding a lot like Bernie.”

But their motives are completely different.

For Sanders it was a genuine concern for the well-being of Americans, that everyone have access to affordable healthcare.

For Republicans it’s a genuine concern that a recession will cost them control of the Senate and WH – a concern purely political and partisan.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“When Obama took office and the Bush recession was in full swing, no Repub supported the stimulus package. Using the pretense it was too costly.”

Conservatives are infamous for their hypocrisy.

 

[Norman]

GOP senator's coronavirus plan: Get federal government to cover 80 percent of wages.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) wants the United States to follow Europe’s lead. That’s not something conservatives like him normally say, but he believes desperate times call for desperate measures.

The rising star on the right proposes that the federal government replicate what’s been working in the United Kingdom to keep layoffs limited and immediately begin covering 80 percent of worker wages at all private businesses, up to the national median wage, until the emergency caused by the novel coronavirus is over. He also advocates paying financial bonuses for businesses to rehire workers laid off over the past month.
....................................................................................................................................................
The magnitude of the impact to the economy from fighting the virus is truly unprecedented. The rationale for throwing the kitchen sink at preventing what would be a depression without government intervention is ultimately it is cheaper to prevent one than try to recover from one.
What I find telling is how quickly Repubs (who make claims to fiscal responsibility when a Dem is in the WH) propose what can fairly be described as socialist remedies under Repub admins. No amount of government debt is too much for a Repub when his party is at risk of being held accountable for a massive economic downturn.
When Shrub was prez, facing the start of a deep recession, Dems cooperated in passing TARP. When Obama took office and the Bush recession was in full swing, no Repub supported the stimulus package. Using the pretense it was too costly. How times have changed.

I guess you can't tell the difference between promising free stuff for those who don't need it....and helping suffering people out during a national emergency.

No wonder you vote Democrat.....you're a fucking idiot.

Unfortunately, leftie's "need" for free stuff is not a national emergency.

 

[Lesh]

Republicans have always been cozy with this stuff; they just lie to their voters about it.

No kidding.

Socialism sure is expensive isn’t it?

Lots of things are expensive. That doesn't mean they aren't valuable and necessary

 

[alang1216]

GOP senator's coronavirus plan: Get federal government to cover 80 percent of wages.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) wants the United States to follow Europe’s lead. That’s not something conservatives like him normally say, but he believes desperate times call for desperate measures.

The rising star on the right proposes that the federal government replicate what’s been working in the United Kingdom to keep layoffs limited and immediately begin covering 80 percent of worker wages at all private businesses, up to the national median wage, until the emergency caused by the novel coronavirus is over. He also advocates paying financial bonuses for businesses to rehire workers laid off over the past month.
....................................................................................................................................................
The magnitude of the impact to the economy from fighting the virus is truly unprecedented. The rationale for throwing the kitchen sink at preventing what would be a depression without government intervention is ultimately it is cheaper to prevent one than try to recover from one.
What I find telling is how quickly Repubs (who make claims to fiscal responsibility when a Dem is in the WH) propose what can fairly be described as socialist remedies under Repub admins. No amount of government debt is too much for a Repub when his party is at risk of being held accountable for a massive economic downturn.
When Shrub was prez, facing the start of a deep recession, Dems cooperated in passing TARP. When Obama took office and the Bush recession was in full swing, no Repub supported the stimulus package. Using the pretense it was too costly. How times have changed.

Conservative ideology loves the free market and hates government intervention. Like every ideology, reality often disagrees.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No amount of printing ie trillions and trillions and trillions is going to solve the problem if local and state govts keep this lockdown going. The number of deaths due to the virus will pale in comparison to the death from the upcoming depression. People had better wake up.

 

[Mac-7]

GOP senator's coronavirus plan: Get federal government to cover 80 percent of wages.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) wants the United States to follow Europe’s lead. That’s not something conservatives like him normally say, but he believes desperate times call for desperate measures.

The rising star on the right proposes that the federal government replicate what’s been working in the United Kingdom to keep layoffs limited and immediately begin covering 80 percent of worker wages at all private businesses, up to the national median wage, until the emergency caused by the novel coronavirus is over. He also advocates paying financial bonuses for businesses to rehire workers laid off over the past month.
....................................................................................................................................................
The magnitude of the impact to the economy from fighting the virus is truly unprecedented. The rationale for throwing the kitchen sink at preventing what would be a depression without government intervention is ultimately it is cheaper to prevent one than try to recover from one.
What I find telling is how quickly Repubs (who make claims to fiscal responsibility when a Dem is in the WH) propose what can fairly be described as socialist remedies under Repub admins. No amount of government debt is too much for a Repub when his party is at risk of being held accountable for a massive economic downturn.
When Shrub was prez, facing the start of a deep recession, Dems cooperated in passing TARP. When Obama took office and the Bush recession was in full swing, no Repub supported the stimulus package. Using the pretense it was too costly. How times have changed.

Correction

sen hawley USED to be a rising star

but not anymore

 

[SmokeALib]

Please do not start any more stupid threads. Thank you.

 

[Seawytch]

No amount of printing ie trillions and trillions and trillions is going to solve the problem if local and state govts keep this lockdown going. The number of deaths due to the virus will pale in comparison to the death from the upcoming depression. People had better wake up.

Based on what data?

Great Depression Had Little Effect on Death Rates

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No amount of printing ie trillions and trillions and trillions is going to solve the problem if local and state govts keep this lockdown going. The number of deaths due to the virus will pale in comparison to the death from the upcoming depression. People had better wake up.

Based on what data?

Great Depression Had Little Effect on Death Rates

Seriously? There will be no US currency if this lockdown continues. Entire supply lines are being bankrupt, dairy farms, farmers, food rotting on the ground. Do you not understand what is happening? Yes, and hundreds of thousands will be dying.

 

[Mac-7]

No amount of printing ie trillions and trillions and trillions is going to solve the problem if local and state govts keep this lockdown going. The number of deaths due to the virus will pale in comparison to the death from the upcoming depression. People had better wake up.

Based on what data?

Great Depression Had Little Effect on Death Rates

Studies come and go

academics must do studies or face having to find a real job

if it suites their agenda libs can whip up a new study contradicting their old study in no time at all