While I am a Trump supporter,

[BackAgain]

The phrase "Make America Great Again" is quite clear. It means what it is says, make it great again which implies it is not great today but was in the past

That’s your spin. And it clearly is not what the phrase means. I already explained this to you.

 

[eagle1462010]

The phrase "Make America Great Again" is quite clear. It means what it is says, make it great again which implies it is not great today but was in the past. In that vision of yesterday's American, character and morals of a candidate were important to voters. The revelation that a candidate such as Trump was cavorting with strippers and prostitutes and paying them hush money, using language directed at women that was so vile that it could not be disclose in mixed company, and was under 4 indictments for serious crimes would result in a quick withdrawal from the race, never to be seen in politics again.

Oh BS. Clinton was getting blow jobs in the oval office. Spare me your oiutrage.

 

[surada]

Trump policies for the most part were good for America, good for Americans.
Biden policies so far have sucked. I can't think of a single thing he has done that has been good for America or all Americans other than a very few targeted people at taxpayer expense.

 

[Foxfyre]

Some people can actually debate concepts and principles. Some people just post stupid memes and dishonest videos.

 

[Flopper]

That’s your spin. And it clearly is not what the phrase means. I already explained this to you.

This phrase is a code phrase; that is, it can mean different things to different people. Most conservatives see it as a call to bring back from America's past, small less obtrusive government with less federal spending, banning abortion. or less illegal immigration which have all existed throughout most of American history. However, to extremists it can mean putting black people in their place before the civil rights movement, closeting homosexuals and other sexual deviates, and cleaning American of illegals and foreigners.

Campaign slogans usually fall in 3 categories:
Those that are capitalizing on the popularly of the candidate - "I Like Ike"
Those that focus on a major issue with voters, "No New Taxes. Read My Lips."
When the issues are more popular than the candidate, a phase such as "Make America Great Again" is appropriate because it mean whatever a potential supporter wants it to mean.

 

[Flopper]

You can say the same thing about most presidents. However, you have to weight the good vs the bad. Biden has not been a bad president just a lackluster president, not a great economy but certainly not a bad economy. Lots of changes that make American better but nothing earth shattering.

Trump had a better than average economy but his lack of leadership in the pandemic resulted in a needless loss of American lives. His complete mishandling of the pandemic, sowed confusion and conspiracy theories around vaccines and the virus itself, allowing hundreds of thousands more people to die than would have been the case in a more orderly, intelligent, and strong administration.

His behavior after he lost the presidency should disqualify him from running again. If he wins this election will he leave office at the end of his term with dignity and honor are will he attempt to hold power with a real coup instead of the half ass insurgency of Jan 6th. He is asking SCOTUS for complete immunity to any crimes committed by a president in office. He may be looking ahead as well as looking back.

 

[BackAgain]

This phrase is a code phrase; that is, it can mean different things to different people. Most conservatives see it as a call to bring back from America's past, small less obtrusive government with less federal spending, banning abortion. or less illegal immigration which have all existed throughout most of American history. However, to extremists it can mean putting black people in their place before the civil rights movement, closeting homosexuals and other sexual deviates, and cleaning American of illegals and foreigners.

Campaign slogans usually fall in 3 categories:
Those that are capitalizing on the popularly of the candidate - "I Like Ike"
Those that focus on a major issue with voters, "No New Taxes. Read My Lips."
When the issues are more popular than the candidate, a phase such as "Make America Great Again" is appropriate because it mean whatever a potential supporter wants it to mean.

Nope

 

[Flopper]

Nope

Yep

 

[Dante]

Wow!

And people forget that the Pope issues with Trump is new?

 

[Marchimedes]

The Left demonizes Trump without realizing that we don’t judge him by the contents of his heart. That’s God’s jurisdiction. We only care about his deeds -- which have been 100 percent beneficial to the citizens of the United States.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Running up $8T in debt is beneficial?

Cue the “whataboutisms”....

/—-/ The president doesn’t control spending. That’s on Congress. DERP

 

[candycorn]

/—-/ The president doesn’t control spending. That’s on Congress. DERP

According to the constitution, the congress cannot spend a dime without the President's approval. Are you going to pretend that you do not know this? Really pal...your act is stale.

 

[Cellblock2429]

According to the constitution, the congress cannot spend a dime without the President's approval. Are you going to pretend that you do not know this? Really pal...your act is stale.

/----/ The president's hands are tied. The Gubmint is shut down right now because of Congress. You want debt relief; tell Congress to cut spending. And both sides are guilty.

 

[candycorn]

/----/ The president's hands are tied.

No they're not. He can authorize spending or he can not authorize spending.

The Gubmint is shut down right now because of Congress. You want debt relief; tell Congress to cut spending. And both sides are guilty.

Congress can't spend a dime without the president's signature. This is a fact. You don't like it because it places responsibility on your blob and no one else.

We all know you worship the guy but adults can admit when their idols are flawed.

Grow up sonny boy.

 

[Cellblock2429]

No they're not. He can authorize spending or he can not authorize spending.

Congress can't spend a dime without the president's signature. This is a fact. You don't like it because it places responsibility on your blob and no one else.

We all know you worship the guy but adults can admit when their idols are flawed.

Grow up sonny boy.

/-----/ "No they're not. He can authorize spending or he can not authorize spending."
Then why did Trump 45 have to beg for money for the border wall, and Nancy Piglosi sneered at him and said NO! Why is Congress demanding ICE budget cuts and shut down the government? If the president can authorize spending, why doesn't he just do it?
You really must learn how government works.

 

[candycorn]

/-----/ "No they're not. He can authorize spending or he can not authorize spending."
Then why did Trump 45 have to beg for money for the border wall, and Nancy Piglosi sneered at him and said NO! Why is Congress demanding ICE budget cuts and shut down the government? If the president can authorize spending, why doesn't he just do it?
You really must learn how government works.

Because we have a republic and not a dictatorship. I'm not sure you're even aware of our system of government. Perhaps ask a 3rd grader to explain it to you.

Every penny the government spends is because your blob authorized it. He doesn't write spending bills but he approves them which is the critical action in any organization--the authorization.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Because we have a republic and not a dictatorship. I'm not sure you're even aware of our system of government. Perhaps ask a 3rd grader to explain it to you.

Every penny the government spends is because your blob authorized it. He doesn't write spending bills but he approves them which is the critical action in any organization--the authorization.

/——/ He has no choice. Now pretend you don’t remember how the democRATs and media attacked Trump for not signing outrageous spending bills. Go ahead, tell us you were born yesterday.
We’re in a stalemate right now.

 

[candycorn]

/——/ He has no choice.

Yes he does. Veto. Again...we all know you worship Trump... An adult can admit that their idols are flawed. I guess you're not an adult.

Now pretend you don’t remember how the democRATs and media attacked Trump for not signing outrageous spending bills.

WOW...you mean the opposition party attacked a president of a different party? Gee...that is so unusual....NOT!!!

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yes he does. Veto. Again...we all know you worship Trump... An adult can admit that their idols are flawed. I guess you're not an adult.

WOW...you mean the opposition party attacked a president of a different party? Gee...that is so unusual....NOT!!!

/—-/ Veto is limited. It can be overridden. Did you notice we’re in a shutdown now?

 

[Independent thinker]

I do admit that he makes it easy for some to dislike him. He’s everything the social justice warriors insist that we despise. He’s a white male multi-billionaire who had a privileged childhood. He has a jaded history with the ladies, and is inclined to get into verbal battles that would be better avoided. In other words: he’s just as flawed as the rest of us. But I realize that his unlikability to some is actually his superpower. He causes the Left to act out a self-destructive demonstration of their corrosiveness to the American experiment.

The radicals falsely perceive Trump’s personality as a weakness, drawing them into attacks that reveal their true nature. He’s the cheese, which temps the rats into the transparency trap. He triggers them into openly demonstrating their utter disregard for basic fairness and the rule of law -- things which most Americans still hold dear. Blinded by their hatred, the radicals can’t see that their actions offend most Americans, and result in unintended consequences.
The Left demonizes Trump without realizing that we don’t judge him by the contents of his heart. That’s God’s jurisdiction. We only care about his deeds -- which have been 100 percent beneficial to the citizens of the United States.
We also don’t care about what’s in the hearts of his opponents. We instead are judging them by their deeds, and we’re finding those deeds very disturbing. They have:

• Trashed our civil rights,
• Corrupted any notion of due process,
• Weaponized the government against its citizens, and
• Destroyed civil debate (i.e., calling opponents fascists).

It was all done to crush one man -- with no acknowledgement of the individual liberties which the Constitution guarantees.
The attorney general of New York, Letitia James, found a friendly judge and got a $464.5 million settlement and a suspension of Trump’s right to do business in New York. He was found guilty of defrauding banks, who claim they weren’t defrauded -- making it a victimless crime, if it was a crime at all. The Left attacked (action) and MAGA grew (unintended consequence).

E. Jean Carroll got an $83 million settlement from Trump for the liable of denying that he had raped her -- even though she can’t remember the year in which it supposedly happened. But she had a friendly New York jury, and she was relying on Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) to triumph over a preponderance of the evidence. The Left attacked (action) and MAGA grew (unintended consequence).

New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg indicted Trump for a campaign finance violation, which the federal election commission ruled wasn’t illegal, and for which the statute of limitations had expired. But by calling it a “conspiracy,” Bragg was able to extend the statute of limitations, even if the act still wasn’t illegal. Bragg is counting on a TDS afflicted judge and jury also. Is that anyone’s idea of justice -- seeking a conviction because you can, rather than because you should? The Left attacked (action) and MAGA grew (unintended consequence).

Special Counsel Jack Smith indicted Trump for the same crime that Joe Biden committed -- having classified documents in his possession (but without Presidential authority in Biden’s case). Special Counsel Robert Hur explained that Biden wouldn’t be indicted because the jury would find him a “likeable old gentleman.” Left unsaid is what that statement reveals: Trump was indicted because he would come across as unlikeable, while Biden was excused because a jury would find him likeable. Again, justice has been turned into the pursuit of the unlikeable, rather than the guilty. Is that what the Supreme Court building inscription “Equal Justice Under Law” intends? The Left attacked (action) and MAGA grew (unintended consequence).

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis indicted Trump for the same action that every losing Democrat since Al Gore has committed -- challenging the outcome of the election with every legal means available. When Al Franken overturned an election in Minnesota, it was a defense of democracy. When Donald Trump didn’t overturn an election, it was a criminal conspiracy in violation of racketeering laws -- because he talked to people about his legal options. We’re not supposed to notice that what is justice for a Democrat is conspiracy for a Republican. Fani got her mugshot, and Trump’s campaign donations came rolling in. The Left attacked (action) and MAGA grew (unintended consequence).

One must ask: why did the radicals think they would benefit from such public displays of raw political corruption? Was it because they presumed that our values were aligned with theirs? Did they think that we hated Donald Trump more than we loved our republic? Were they expecting us to celebrate the destruction of due process -- if it was to “save our democracy”?


Surprise! The leftists were wrong. We value our country far more than any one man. We will not excuse them for trashing our justice system -- to “save our democracy.” Unlike them, we know that “saving our republic” depends on fairness -- especially towards those whom we may dislike. Lady Justice wears a blindfold for reasons which we understand -- and they clearly don’t.
The Left’s hatred of Donald Trump caused them to show the public their complete disdain for legal norms. In their lust to attack him, they revealed the lengths to which they are willing to go in attacking our republic. Considerations of justice, fairness, and the common good were of no consequence in their decision making.
Leftists put the question to us: Do you dislike Donald Trump enough to excuse us for trashing legal norms to keep him out of office? We have given them a resounding: No! But rather than hear us, the radicals continue to do the same thing over and over, while expecting a different result. They refuse to accept reality -- that we prefer the America of our founding over the North Cuba which they are creating. So, they continue to attack, and MAGA continues to grow.

It would be interesting to see what Trump would have been like but for all the democrats' lawfare against him for ten solid years. They made Trump. They elected Trump. They made Trump what he is today.