Still think this isn't fascism?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Or we could just exile them to an island somewhere where they can all be happy and we can be happy too that they're gone. Hawaii seems like a good place. Once there we can take away all the planes and boats.

And no more oil or gas shipped to Hawaii. To save the planet.

 

[Independent thinker]

And no more oil or gas shipped to Hawaii. To save the planet.

They can all eat berries, coconuts, and pineapples.

 

[AZrailwhale]

That is my point, that cops do illegal things.
They used to enforce slavery.
We fought to stop that.
They used to enforce Prohibition.
We fought to stop that.
They still enforce drug laws.
And we still need to fight to stop that.
That is what Progressive means.
That the government used to be the aristocratic dictatorship of the British royalty, and we are slowing trying to fix that by taking out the bad parts.
Drug laws are totally illegal because drugs do not harm others.

But harming your wife or child is different, and cops are authorized by those harmed in order to protect your wife and child.

Slavery, prohibition and anti-drug laws are all legal, or were at the time they were enforced by the police. Slavery was recognized in the Constitution, see the Three Fifths Compromise for proof, Prohibition was initiated by a Constitutional Amendment (the 18th) and repealed by another Constitutional Amendment (the 21st) fourteen years later. Anti-drug laws are constitutional and if you want that changed you need to pass another Amendment making drugs legal. What you think about the law is irrevalent, and you are wrong, as you are about everything you post. I can't understand how you managed to get through school with your total ignorance of how the United States government operates.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Rush Limbaugh makes no sense because the native language in the US would Navaho.
English is only spoken by the illegal European invaders who have no right to be here.

God you are a moron. The Navaho were a small tribe that operated in a small area of the Southwest. From Wikki:

"Dinétah is the traditional homeland of the Diné or Navajo, an Indigenous people of the Southwestern United States. In the Navajo language, the word "Dinétah" means "among the people" or "among the Navajo" (diné is the Navajo word that refers to the Navajo people; it also means "people" in the generic sense; -tah means "among, through, in the area of").<a href="Dinétah - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> In the geographical sense, Dinétah encompasses a large area of northwestern New Mexico, southwestern Colorado, southeastern Utah, and northeastern Arizona. The boundaries are inexact, and are generally marked by mountain peaks which correspond to the four cardinal directions."
If any Indian language should have been American it would have been either Cherokee or Iroquois, the Iroquois dominated the Northeastern USA and Canada, and the Cherokee dominated the Southeastern USA.

 

[Nostra]

Source - Rasmussen Reports. 78% accuracy in polling. Skewed towards right wing results always.

Prove it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
The Founder were unfamiliar with any form of government from Europe except monarchies.
So they looked to the Iroquois Federation in order to learn what a republic was and how to legislate it.
The US constitution came from the Iroquois.

The Founders had a far better grasp of historical forms of governance than you do, they had and considered examples of direct democracy, republican and monarchial when forming our government. They created a hybrid of democracy and republic to provide the most freedom for the individual and the most stability for the nation. That's why there are two houses of congress one peopled by direct election (the House) the other was peopled by people appointed by the states (the Senate). The seventeenth Amendment changed that in 1913, making both houses elected by the people and removing one of the checks and balances put into place by the Founders. The democrats have been chipping away at eh checks and balances ever since with FDR being the most egregious.

 

[Stryder50]

Slavery, prohibition and anti-drug laws are all legal, or were at the time they were enforced by the police. Slavery was recognized in the Constitution, see the Three Fifths Compromise for proof, Prohibition was initiated by a Constitutional Amendment (the 18th) and repealed by another Constitutional Amendment (the 21st) fourteen years later. Anti-drug laws are constitutional and if you want that changed you need to pass another Amendment making drugs legal. What you think about the law is irrevalent, and you are wrong, as you are about everything you post. I can't understand how you managed to get through school with your total ignorance of how the United States government operates.

Point of order ....
Anti-drug laws were passed by Congress. Congress can adjust or repeal without need of a new Amendment.

That "Three Fifths Compromise" is so often misunderstood or mis-stated. Clue is in the term "Compromise"
While drafting the Constitution, the part about representation in the House half of Congress being based on State population, the case/debate arose about slaves counting as a part of the State's population for determining representation.
Representation being based upon number of citizen voters (males only at the time) it was pointed out that slaves aren't citizens or allowed to vote, so should not be counted. Southern 'slave' States objected, to point of almost disbanding the Constitutional Convention, so the 3/5 proposal was presented and accepted. A compromise and maybe not the best.

The 'Compromise' recognized that slaves existed, but was not an endorsement or acceptance of slavery.

Further proof lies in;

Article I​

• Section 9​

  • Clause 1 Migration or Importation
  • The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
    

Article 1 Section 9 Clause 1 | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

constitution.congress.gov

 

[jc456]

Source - Rasmussen Reports. 78% accuracy in polling. Skewed towards right wing results always.

Hahaha polls are useless, only elections count

 

[Stryder50]

Socially responsible government and communisms ideals will always be the most effecctive method of combatting fascism.

Americans have been propagandized into rejecting the most effective means.

Was that a factor in the planning of the fascist's rise to power? Power that is unstoppable!

There won't be any awakening for Americans when they finally realize what they'lve allowed to happen. The small minority that are the resistance will quivkly be eliminated.

It has always been that way.

NO !

"Socially responsible government" will not include Communism since that ideology infringes on the rights and freedoms of citizens.

I'd suggest you immigrate to CCP China and get real experience, Komrade Don.

 

[Delldude]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

Might help if your read your own OP.

 

[Stryder50]

Hahaha polls are useless, only elections count

Provided they are honest, fair, equal, and free of fraud.

Per Stalin and others;
"It does not matter who the people vote for, what matters is who counts the ballots."

 

[Stryder50]

Might help if your read your own OP.

Might help if he understood his writing in the OP as well.
For that matter maybe a refresher in basic English.

 

[AZrailwhale]

{...
The Iroquois Confederacy heavily influenced the development of the United States in 3 major ways. From the mid 17th century the British Colonists would trade on the Hudson river with the Iroquois Confederacy. It was not uncommon to see bands of Mohawk warriors escorting canoes of goods to be sold at the markets of New England.

There are 3 ways in which the Iroquois Confederacy influenced the early development of the United States. First, the Iroquois Confederacy had 3 branches of government with checks and balances. Second, the Iroquois Confederacy created a model for the U.S Articles of Confederation. Third, the Iroquois Confederacy built a government that allowed rapid expansion which the U.S drew inspiration from.

Here at The History Ace I strive to publish the best history articles on the internet. If at the end you enjoyed this article consider subscribing to the free newsletter and sharing around the web.

One of the main ways in which the Iroquois Confederacy influenced the development of the United States was by having a 3 branch system of government with built in checks and balances.

The first branch of the Iroquois Confederacy was the elective chiefs which served for a life term. These chiefs would be elected from each individual clan within the 6 nations. After this the chiefs would be trained from an early age on how to effectively govern.

The chiefs would then be housed at the Great Council where they would judge upon legislation and actions in the name of their clan. As a rule each chief was allowed to speak his mind and all the other chiefs had to listen. Once the chiefs came up with a piece of legislation it would be sent back to their clan to vote.

The second branch of government was the legislative. In order for a law to be passed in the Iroquois Confederacy it needed to be voted into law. 75% of the men and 75% of the women would have to vote the legislation into law. After this a law could only be repealed if it received 75% of the votes of the Women in the clans. Further, in order to alter the confederacy itself it required a double supermajority vote.

This created a grid iron system of checks and balances. However, what would happen if the chiefs abused their power? Then the third branch would remove them.

The third branch of the Iroquois Confederacy was a judicial branch. The mothers of each clan could dispose of the chief if they abused their power. This was done through a ritual ceremony called “knocking off the horns” where the mother of the clan would remove the deer antlers on the chief’s headdress which signified leadership.

As we can see the Iroquois Confederacy had a system of government that is similar to the modern United States. The Iroquois Confederacy is between 300-600 years older than the United States.

As such this remains one of the main ways that the Iroquois Confederacy Influenced the U.S.

Without further ado, here are the 3 ways the Iroquois Confederacy Influenced The U.S.

The Iroquois Confederacy Had 3 Branches of Government With Checks And Balances​

One of the main ways in which the Iroquois Confederacy influenced the development of the United States was by having a 3 branch system of government with built in checks and balances.

The first branch of the Iroquois Confederacy was the elective chiefs which served for a life term. These chiefs would be elected from each individual clan within the 6 nations. After this the chiefs would be trained from an early age on how to effectively govern.

The chiefs would then be housed at the Great Council where they would judge upon legislation and actions in the name of their clan. As a rule each chief was allowed to speak his mind and all the other chiefs had to listen. Once the chiefs came up with a piece of legislation it would be sent back to their clan to vote.

The second branch of government was the legislative. In order for a law to be passed in the Iroquois Confederacy it needed to be voted into law. 75% of the men and 75% of the women would have to vote the legislation into law. After this a law could only be repealed if it received 75% of the votes of the Women in the clans. Further, in order to alter the confederacy itself it required a double supermajority vote.

This created a grid iron system of checks and balances. However, what would happen if the chiefs abused their power? Then the third branch would remove them.

The third branch of the Iroquois Confederacy was a judicial branch. The mothers of each clan could dispose of the chief if they abused their power. This was done through a ritual ceremony called “knocking off the horns” where the mother of the clan would remove the deer antlers on the chief’s headdress which signified leadership.

As we can see the Iroquois Confederacy had a system of government that is similar to the modern United States. The Iroquois Confederacy is between 300-600 years older than the United States.

As such this remains one of the main ways that the Iroquois Confederacy Influenced the U.S.
...}
3 Ways The Iroquois Confederacy Influenced The U.S

The Founders might have stolen the idea of three branches of government from the Iroquois, but they implemented them totally differently using lessons learned in Europe. For instance, presidents aren't elected for life as in the Iroquois, and there are two houses of congress, not one.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It’s very much fascism – Trump’s immigration agenda is motivated by racism, bigotry, and hate, seeking to lawlessly remove immigrants of color regardless their immigration state – including those who have committed no crimes.

Bullcrap. ILLEGAL ALIENS are all herein violation of our laws. Trump is getting rid of the easily identified ILLEGAL ALIENS first. Most Illegal aliens are from Latin America, the Middle East of largely black countries like Haiti or parts of Africa, so most of the ILLEGAL ALIENS deported will be minorities.

 

[Delldude]

It’s very much fascism – Trump’s immigration agenda is motivated by racism, bigotry, and hate, seeking to lawlessly remove immigrants of color regardless their immigration state – including those who have committed no crimes.

The ones getting hit at work sites, many have used stolen ID which moves them to the top of the list.

 

[AZrailwhale]

They can all eat berries, coconuts, and pineapples.

You forgot Breadfruit.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And? Every bar has this right and bouncers to deport douchebags out of the building. If you are a guest in MY country and start shit, then yeah GTFO!

Splendid. Now let's use the same logic with social media. If I own the platform, and I believe your speech is tantamount to 'shitting on the floor' and jettison your ass out, you don't get to whine and complain about your 'first amendment right' as many, many magaturds did, because they are illogical, entitled ******* douchebags.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Point of order ....
Anti-drug laws were passed by Congress. Congress can adjust or repeal without need of a new Amendment.

That "Three Fifths Compromise" is so often misunderstood or mis-stated. Clue is in the term "Compromise"
While drafting the Constitution, the part about representation in the House half of Congress being based on State population, the case/debate arose about slaves counting as a part of the State's population for determining representation.
Representation being based upon number of citizen voters (males only at the time) it was pointed out that slaves aren't citizens or allowed to vote, so should not be counted. Southern 'slave' States objected, to point of almost disbanding the Constitutional Convention, so the 3/5 proposal was presented and accepted. A compromise and maybe not the best.

The 'Compromise' recognized that slaves existed, but was not an endorsement or acceptance of slavery.

Further proof lies in;

Article I​

• Section 9​

  • Clause 1 Migration or Importation
  • The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

Article 1 Section 9 Clause 1 | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

constitution.congress.gov

Agreed, but politics is the study of the possible, not the ideal. A strong nation with slaves was preferrable to two weak nations one with slaves and one without. With a Southern USA and a Northern USA, the history of the world would be far different. One instance would be the triumph of Germany in WWII since neither nation would be powerful enough to provide Lend-Lease to the other Allies. Another would be that there would likely be internecine warfare in North America like there was in Europe making all three North American countries much weaker than in the real history. It's even possible that the British, operating from Canada could have conquered all of North America including Mexico really setting the chickens loose.

 

[BluesLegend]

Splendid. Now let's use the same logic with social media. If I own the platform, and I believe your speech is tantamount to 'shitting on the floor' and jettison your ass out, you don't get to whine and complain about your 'first amendment right' as many, many magaturds did, because they are illogical, entitled ******* douchebags.

Sorry we are busy celebrating the big beautiful bill...what?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Sorry we are busy celebrating the big beautiful bill...what?

Yeah. Nothing to say. Keep walking, ass face.