Still think this isn't fascism?

[BluesLegend]

Yeah. Nothing to say. Keep walking, ass face.

This one seems bitter, I think it has a sourpuss face. ^^^

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

This one seems bitter, I think it has a sourpuss face. ^^^

I think you're a clown shoe.

 

[BluesLegend]

I think you're a clown shoe.

Yep bitter and unhinged apparently. Maybe it was passage of Trump's big beautiful bill

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Yep bitter and unhinged apparently. Maybe it was passage of Trump's big beautiful bill

Nope. No ***** to give about it.

 

[sparky]

Just to give you some perspective: When you're deporting non-criminal citizens because of civil cases filed against them, Donald Trump could be stripped of citizenship and deported because of the Trump University Fraud case.

i would ask you validate that DLady

~S~

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

so you think the constitution allows illegals? hmmmmmmmm you sure?

No, shit-for-brains. Item #10 doesn't talk about that.

 

[jc456]

It’s very much fascism – Trump’s immigration agenda is motivated by racism, bigotry, and hate, seeking to lawlessly remove immigrants of color regardless their immigration state – including those who have committed no crimes.

nice pivot away from illegals. Perhaps you should look at our actual laws.

 

[jc456]

Just to give you some perspective: When you're deporting non-criminal citizens because of civil cases filed against them, Donald Trump could be stripped of citizenship and deported because of the Trump University Fraud case.

that hasn't happened. stay in your lane in canada.

 

[Marchimedes]

I just read it

Good for you. Did you not know that existed? Not calling you ignorant, it's just amazing that all these retards these days calling Baby Jesus a fascist know nuttin about the original fascist.

And in a republic, you want the people to collectively own the means of production

Maybe you do. You just said "republic" and "collectively" in the same breath, comrade. In communism the "collective" owns the means of production. In a Republic individuals own the means of production. Two(2) entirely different things. Talk about conflating.

In a monarchy or oligarchy, the state is controlled by the wealthy elite.
And in a monarchy or oligarchy, you want to privatize everything so that the wealthy elite profit from everything.

What you are doing is conflating these two very different states.

Hey, man, you said "conflating" first. Be a doll and tell us all exactly what I conflated.

The public state of a republic protects you, while the privately controlled state of a monarchy or oligarchy is out to extort all the profits from you they can take.

See above image.

Mussolini clearly

What is up with you people constantly with the "clearly?" Do you really think dropping that gem in a debate sways anything? Shouldn't you be coming up with a slogan and putting it on a poster board so you can march around like you won? Don't get me wrong I'm still reeling from other slogans such as "Silence is Violence" and "queers for palestine" and all.

made nothing public and privatized everything.

Then told them what to do. That's fascism. Making $h!t public is communism.

He was an anti-socialist puppet of the aristocracy.

He was a dictator.

 

[Marchimedes]

First of all, I am NOT "defending" Mussolini at all in any way.

You're doing everything you can to steer this conversation away from what it is: The definition of fascism cause your mutha fu(kin boy, SlowJoeBiden is a fascist.

Second is that he clearly was NOT a socialist.

Oh my, NOT in capital letters. Did I somewhere claim Benito was a socialist?

He tried to gain power in the socialist party since that was popular and easy.

You mean like most every democrat?

But then he got "kicked out", so he had to find a different power group, and he picked the wealthy elite and the fascists.

Then when he assumed full power he told them what to do. That's fascism.

 

[Rigby5]

Link us up to this “better deal” Rigby5

{...
In previous administrations, far more people attempted to enter the country, and far more were turned away, often without a hearing before an immigration judge. That procedure used to be known as a “voluntary departure” but is now called a “return” by the government.

They all have the effect of a deportation, but there are more legal consequences for a removal than for a return. In totality, President George W. Bush deported even more people than Obama – and President Bill Clinton deported more than Bush.

According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration.

Those numbers alone don’t tell the whole story, though, according to Obama administration officials.

“A straight numbers-by-numbers comparison doesn’t provide an accurate picture of what was going on in the administration,” Cecilia Muñoz, who was a top domestic policy adviser to Obama and is now with the left-leaning New America Foundation, said in a phone interview.

She argues that Obama prioritized deporting people convicted of serious crimes and recent arrivals who had no criminal records.

“If you’re not targeting and focused on people who recently arrived, then the border is effectively open,” Muñoz said, adding: “It is more humane to be removing people who have been here two weeks than it is to be removing people who have been here for 20 years and have families.”

Trump, by contrast, she said, has rejected the policy of focusing on new arrivals and criminals and instead wants to deport as many people as possible.

It’s impossible to ignore his rhetoric. He infamously called some Mexican immigrants “rapists,” and focused his presidency around the idea that he would build a wall, get tough with Mexico and deport as many undocumented immigrants as possible.

Trump’s planned raids come after years of claims that American citizens are harmed by the presence of undocumented migrants – from inviting crime victims to the State of the Union address to his recent effort to add a citizenship question to the census.

Obama used executive action to temporarily give protected status to undocumented people who arrived in the US as children, and curbed deportations from the interior states of the country. His focus, particularly toward the end of his administration, was on quick “returns” of new arrivals at the border who were perceived to have had fewer ties in the US – though that, controversially, included the same types of Central American migrants whose arrival has swamped the border this year.
...}

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/13/politics/obama-trump-deportations-illegal-immigration/index.html

 

[Picaro]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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You left wingers shouldn't deliberately create such problems if you don't like the results of your illegal actions. You promoted this, so get over it. The current response is exactly what you hoped would happen, so you could then run around sniveling and pretending you care about these people. We know you don't, it's just more chaos for you exploit, is all.

 

[Rigby5]

Good for you. Did you not know that existed? Not calling you ignorant, it's just amazing that all these retards these days calling Baby Jesus a fascist know nuttin about the original fascist.



Maybe you do. You just said "republic" and "collectively" in the same breath, comrade. In communism the "collective" owns the means of production. In a Republic individuals own the means of production. Two(2) entirely different things. Talk about conflating.



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Hey, man, you said "conflating" first. Be a doll and tell us all exactly what I conflated.



See above image.



What is up with you people constantly with the "clearly?" Do you really think dropping that gem in a debate sways anything? Shouldn't you be coming up with a slogan and putting it on a poster board so you can march around like you won? Don't get me wrong I'm still reeling from other slogans such as "Silence is Violence" and "queers for palestine" and all.



Then told them what to do. That's fascism. Making $h!t public is communism.



He was a dictator.

It is hard to tell what you are talking about since you don't repeat much of what you are responding to.
But you are likely wrong about Fascism.
Hitler and Mussolini were not dictators because they were not really in charge.
Both were puppets picked by the Wealthy Elite because they were good speech readers.
They both were ambitious and eager to do what they were told to do.
The real dictators were the wealthy elite oligarchs who owned all the corporations and had a monopoly on all the money.

Communism makes much more sense, because in a republic, the people should always choose to make their own means of production collectively, so that no one corporate owner can extort extra profit over something essential.

A republic is a form of government that is representative of the people.
But the people always want communism so that they are not extorted by wealthy corporate monopolies.
Communism means that in a republic you allow people to make the means of production collectively, in order to reduce prices to the lowest possible.
That is because with communism you do not have to pay profits to anyone.

 

[Rigby5]

You left wingers shouldn't deliberately create such problems if you don't like the results of your illegal actions. You promoted this, so get over it. The current response is exactly what you hoped would happen, so you could then run around sniveling and pretending you care about these people. We know you don't, it's just more chaos for you exploit, is all.

Actually with the $37 trillion national debt, and with Social Security close to default, we could use all the immigrants we could get.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Actually with the $37 trillion national debt, and with Social Security close to default, we could use all the immigrants we could get.

Wrong, we can use all the educated and productive immigrants we can get. We don’t need illiterate third world peasants with no skills.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Listen up you friggin' neo-leftist morons: We are nowhere near fascism if neo-leftists can post disinformation and misinformation like this OP ad nauseam on the Internet and the MSM spouts it day and night. When America is getting close to fascism you will see the government trying to crack down on what it considers to be disinformation and misinformation. Much like what we saw during the Biden admin. If you really are worried about fascism, look at your own beloved party that fully supports global corporate fascism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is hard to tell what you are talking about since you don't repeat much of what you are responding to.
But you are likely wrong about Fascism.
Hitler and Mussolini were not dictators because they were not really in charge.
Both were puppets picked by the Wealthy Elite because they were good speech readers.
They both were ambitious and eager to do what they were told to do.
The real dictators were the wealthy elite oligarchs who owned all the corporations and had a monopoly on all the money.

Communism makes much more sense, because in a republic, the people should always choose to make their own means of production collectively, so that no one corporate owner can extort extra profit over something essential.

A republic is a form of government that is representative of the people.
But the people always want communism so that they are not extorted by wealthy corporate monopolies.
Communism means that in a republic you allow people to make the means of production collectively, in order to reduce prices to the lowest possible.
That is because with communism you do not have to pay profits to anyone.

WRONG

Hitler controlled everyone including the elites he was not chosen by them. He nationalized all industry

Communism NEVER makes sens. \

Forced collective theft and ownership always fails.

The people DO NOT want communism and never have it is always forced on them

 

[Stryder50]

Just to give you some perspective: When you're deporting non-criminal citizens because of civil cases filed against them, Donald Trump could be stripped of citizenship and deported because of the Trump University Fraud case.

These are provisional "citizens", granted that status. Not "Citizens" by birth or Normal Naturalization Process.

Revoking their citizenship is like revoking one's driver's license for too many traffic infractions.

 

[Stryder50]

Socially responsible government and communisms ideals will always be the most effecctive method of combatting fascism.

Americans have been propagandized into rejecting the most effective means.

Was that a factor in the planning of the fascist's rise to power? Power that is unstoppable!

There won't be any awakening for Americans when they finally realize what they'lve allowed to happen. The small minority that are the resistance will quivkly be eliminated.

It has always been that way.

First huge flaw of your delusional concept is the " Socially responsible government" part since such presupposes that you can get all the humans involved to act altruistically. A near impossible task as shown by History to date.

But then you are an idealistic Marxist whose grasp on reality is as tenuous as the grasp you have on basic economics and basic human nature. Your "Pollyanna" vision of the future world is more 'bong dream' delusion detached from Reality. No Real Substance to sustain such.

 

[dblack]

Following in Obama's footsteps.

Sadly, yes.