Still think this isn't fascism?

[Picaro]

Actually with the $37 trillion national debt, and with Social Security close to default, we could use all the immigrants we could get.

Ridiculous.

 

[Seth]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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OP is ringing the alarm bell like it’s 1938, but the memo’s closer to a hard-nosed prioritization of long-standing law enforcement powers.

Yes, point #10 is a bit of a “trust us” clause, but denaturalization still has to go through court, not the President’s Truth Social feed.

So no, they’re not giving themselves carte blanche to deport legal immigrants on a whim—but if someone lied about war crimes, committed PPP fraud, or slipped past security checks, yeah, they’re on the radar. And frankly, they should be.

 

[Mack The Finger]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

You're a hack...especially since the below comes from a satanic press tentacle !

Patrick Weil, a historian and director of research at the French National Centre for Scientific Research and visiting professor of law at Yale University, wrote a book on it in 2012 called The Sovereign Citizen: Denaturalization and the Origins of the American Republic.

...Denaturalized citizens do not automatically get deported; rather they are reverted to their last immigration status as a noncitizen—which in Mamdani’s case was a green card holder, or lawful permanent resident.

...There were around 22,000 denaturalizations in the U.S. before 1967, according to Weil.

...Former President Barack Obama ramped up denaturalization efforts with a Department of Homeland Security program called Operation Janus, mined data, including fingerprint records, to identify people who obtained citizenship through false pretenses.

Can Trump Deport U.S. Citizens Like Elon Musk and Zohran Mamdani?

Here’s what to know about the history of—and the Trump Administration’s efforts to ramp up—“denaturalization.”

time.com

 

[Dassin Dassin]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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A key difference is that the old-school fascists laid claim to some successes. Hitler built the Autobahn and the Volkswagen on his way to conquering Europe. Mussolini told Italy that he made the trains run on time.
But Trump? 79 years of failure. Running away from Vietnam, embarrassing himself in college. Every business was a bankruptcy or a criminal conspiracy. His wife a stripper, his children knuckle-dragging criminals. His policies an unending series of disasters: setting the Taliban free, betraying the Kurds, breaking up our alliances, wrecking arms control in Korea and Iran, making America a pariah, the wall he never built, the trade war he lost, selling America out to Putin, getting caught blackmailing Ukraine, his laughable efforts to provoke race wars so he could send in the Marines, the money laundering, the indictments, the rapes, the theft of secrets.
But the trailer trash shitbirds love him because he hates brown people.

 

[Dassin Dassin]

OP is ringing the alarm bell like it’s 1938, but the memo’s closer to a hard-nosed prioritization of long-standing law enforcement powers.

Yes, point #10 is a bit of a “trust us” clause, but denaturalization still has to go through court, not the President’s Truth Social feed.

So no, they’re not giving themselves carte blanche to deport legal immigrants on a whim—but if someone lied about war crimes, committed PPP fraud, or slipped past security checks, yeah, they’re on the radar. And frankly, they should be.

The ******* Nuremburg laws were "a trust us clause" too.
Sigh. Moronic gullibility.

 

[Seth]

The ******* Nuremburg laws were "a trust us clause" too.
Sigh. Moronic gullibility.

Ah yes, the Nuremberg Laws—the moment every online discussion hopes to reach when someone runs out of proportional comparisons.

Look, no one's saying we should "just trust" any government power blindly. That’s why due process exists, and why denaturalization still requires a judge, not a vibes-based tribunal. If we’re going to start tossing around Holocaust-era comparisons, let’s at least reserve them for when the government starts bypassing courts, not requiring them.

Otherwise, we risk burning out the alarm bells before there's actually a fire.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Actually with the $37 trillion national debt, and with Social Security close to default, we could use all the immigrants we could get.

Only if they carried away some of the debt when they are deported.

 

[Donald H]

First huge flaw of your delusional concept is the " Socially responsible government" part since such presupposes that you can get all the humans involved to act altruistically. A near impossible task as shown by History to date.

But then you are an idealistic Marxist whose grasp on reality is as tenuous as the grasp you have on basic economics and basic human nature. Your "Pollyanna" vision of the future world is more 'bong dream' delusion detached from Reality. No Real Substance to sustain such.

I have no faith in human nature to save the world. You've read me wrong on that.

But I do have faith in others developing superior weaponry and tactics that are needed to deter America and the Zionist regime from further wars of aggression.

I think that's being accomplished now in the ME by China, Russia, and Iran!

The Zionists have in the past been able to attack Iran and bomb their people with impunity. Now they can't, without suffering worse death and destruction then they do to Iran.

There's more to say, but that can serve to help to understand me better. Oh, and maybe I should just add that I'm an atheist and so I have no faith in the god coming to the rescue of America's million of victims.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is hard to tell what you are talking about since you don't repeat much of what you are responding to.
But you are likely wrong about Fascism.
Hitler and Mussolini were not dictators because they were not really in charge.
Both were puppets picked by the Wealthy Elite because they were good speech readers.
They both were ambitious and eager to do what they were told to do.
The real dictators were the wealthy elite oligarchs who owned all the corporations and had a monopoly on all the money.

Communism makes much more sense, because in a republic, the people should always choose to make their own means of production collectively, so that no one corporate owner can extort extra profit over something essential.

A republic is a form of government that is representative of the people.
But the people always want communism so that they are not extorted by wealthy corporate monopolies.
Communism means that in a republic you allow people to make the means of production collectively, in order to reduce prices to the lowest possible.
That is because with communism you do not have to pay profits to anyone.

so that no one corporate owner can extort extra profit over something essential.

Who is currently extorting you for extra profit?

Communism means that in a republic you allow people to make the means of production collectively, in order to reduce prices to the lowest possible.

We don't have capitalist competition which does that now?

That is because with communism you do not have to pay profits to anyone.

You also don't have to satisfy consumer wants or needs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A key difference is that the old-school fascists laid claim to some successes. Hitler built the Autobahn and the Volkswagen on his way to conquering Europe. Mussolini told Italy that he made the trains run on time.
But Trump? 79 years of failure. Running away from Vietnam, embarrassing himself in college. Every business was a bankruptcy or a criminal conspiracy. His wife a stripper, his children knuckle-dragging criminals. His policies an unending series of disasters: setting the Taliban free, betraying the Kurds, breaking up our alliances, wrecking arms control in Korea and Iran, making America a pariah, the wall he never built, the trade war he lost, selling America out to Putin, getting caught blackmailing Ukraine, his laughable efforts to provoke race wars so he could send in the Marines, the money laundering, the indictments, the rapes, the theft of secrets.
But the trailer trash shitbirds love him because he hates brown people.

But Trump? 79 years of failure. Running away from Vietnam, embarrassing himself in college.

Beating the most qualified candidate in history, the first time he ever ran for office.

And then winning a non-consecutive term.

Yeah, failure all the way down. DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have no faith in human nature to save the world. You've read me wrong on that.

But I do have faith in others developing superior weaponry and tactics that are needed to deter America and the Zionist regime from further wars of aggression.

I think that's being accomplished now in the ME by China, Russia, and Iran!

The Zionists have in the past been able to attack Iran and bomb their people with impunity. Now they can't, without suffering worse death and destruction then they do to Iran.

There's more to say, but that can serve to help to understand me better. Oh, and maybe I should just add that I'm an atheist and so I have no faith in the god coming to the rescue of America's million of victims.

The Zionists have in the past been able to attack Iran and bomb their people with impunity.

Cool! When did they do that?

Now they can't, without suffering worse death and destruction then they do to Iran.

Do you feel they suffered worse in the last month than Iran?

 

[Donald H]

Do you feel they suffered worse in the last month than Iran?

If all the reports and attempted propaganda is considered objectively, it appears that Iran suffered deep holes being dug on their territory.

Iran can't be set back on a nuclear weapons program that they've never had. And besides Todd, cliients of the big nuclear powers have never needed nuclear weapons.

If the Zionists have them, they would have become their liability.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If all the reports and attempted propaganda is considered objectively, it appears that Iran suffered deep holes being dug on their territory.

Iran can't be set back on a nuclear weapons program that they've never had. And besides Todd, cliients of the big nuclear powers have never needed nuclear weapons.

If the Zionists have them, they would have become their liability.

If all the reports and attempted propaganda is considered objectively, it appears that Iran suffered deep holes being dug on their territory.

And the loss of all their air defenses.

 

[Papageorgio]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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Got a link or where you got this?

 

[Papageorgio]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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Asking to up hold the law is now facism?

FTA: maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence.

 

[Marchimedes]

It is hard to tell what you are talking about since you don't repeat much of what you are responding to.

Better?

But you are likely wrong about Fascism.

Fascism is Mother government control of the means of production. So 51% likely or is this Veto proof?

Hitler and Mussolini were not dictators because they were not really in charge.

Is that the Good Rich blimp?

 

[dblack]

Socialism vs Fascism. You get to decide!

(though it doesn't matter much, they both end up in the same place)

 

[dudmuck]

Asking to up hold the law is now facism?

FTA: maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence.

project 2025 has fascist elements.

we certainly seem to be on the authoritarian path, since just today Trump suggested taking over cities.

 

[Delldude]

project 2025 has fascist elements.

Your half of Congress conspiring to stop the rule of law against federal law enforcement kinda reeks somewhere between facism and authoritarianism.

we certainly seem to be on the authoritarian path, since just today

May be the prescription when one party tosses the rule of law out the window.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ridiculous.

That poster is a retard.