Spanberger tells rural Virginia to drop dead

[JoeB131]

Maybe I have been giving your fellow Illinoisans a bad rap.

“Despite only 55% of voters choosing Democrats in 2024, 82% of Illinois House seats went to Democrats.”

Looks like even your state has quite a few non-indoctrinated folks left. I would be willing to be that the majority of that 55% was in Chicago. They are all part of a big group think.

Actually, the rural inbred parts of the state keep wanting to leave, but no one really wants them.

Republicans used to do well in this state. Then your party went nuts.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah.
It's a brand new concept.

Of course it isn't.

What IS a new concept is trying to gerrymander in the middle of an election cycle, instead of just after the Census like it's normally done.

 

[Rawley]

You guys started the Gerrymandering BS, don't complain now that it's biting you in the ass.

Yup. Us guys invented Gerrymandering. Geeze.

 

[Lockback]

Of course it isn't.

What IS a new concept is trying to gerrymander in the middle of an election cycle, instead of just after the Census like it's normally done.

Nice Dodge.

 

[Lockback]

Actually, the rural inbred parts of the state keep wanting to leave, but no one really wants them.

Once again, the disgusting bigotry of an arrogant leftist asshole comes through, looking down his pinched nose at regular rural folk who maybe didn't attend Columbia University or Harvard.
They're such lesser humans, you know: all white and stupid and dirty and stuff. Yuck!

Republicans used to do well in this state. Then your party went nuts.

Your party is the one that's gone nuts. Neo-Marxist bullshit, envy, gender confusion, classism, sexism ... every ism you can think of all whipped up into a frenzy by the disgusting Democrat Party.

 

[citygator]

The vile dems here in Virginia were just looking for an excuse.

Why did they wait until Trump pushed the red states to do this? Hmmm. Seems you cant get out of your own way.

 

[citygator]

Virginia was a purple state and generally well run for a long time. Democrat greed is destroying that.

The citizens of Virginia made a poor choice and now must live with the consequences.

It's better than ever. Finally people will be represented correctly.

 

[Lockback]

It's better than ever. Finally people will be represented correctly.

"And so, to wrap this up, not only am I ugly, I'm a pathological liar, a Deep State/CIA plant and I'm a fascist. Turn in your guns and enjoy the higher taxes!"

 

[citygator]

"And so, to wrap this up, not only am I ugly, I'm a pathological liar, a Deep State/CIA plant and I'm a fascist. Turn in your guns and enjoy the higher taxes!"

Boy did she turn that state dark blue. 10-1? Go girlpower.

 

[Lockback]

Boy did she turn that state dark blue. 10-1? Go girlpower.

Yep.
Thanks to gerrymandering and blatant lying.
She's a fraud. And quite possibly just plain evil.
I favor the latter description of her.

 

[citygator]

Yep.
Thanks to gerrymandering and blatant lying.
She's a fraud. And quite possibly just plain evil.
I favor the latter description of her.

How's it different than Texas?

 

[alang1216]

MSN

Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger has pursued a maximalist partisan agenda since being sworn into office. She is making housing, healthcare, and energy all more expensive. But nothing she has done so far is as insulting as the language her party attached to its ballot referendum to disenfranchise millions of rural Republican voters this April.

Six years ago, Virginia voters overwhelmingly passed a Constitutional Amendment creating a bipartisan Virginia Redistricting Commission. That commission drew a congressional map that was objectively fair. In 2024, when Vice President Kamala Harris won 52% of the vote to President Donald Trump’s 46%, the resulting congressional delegation was 55% Democratic (six seats) and 45% Republican (five seats).

It could not be fairer than that.

Now Spanberger and her Democratic Party majorities in the Virginia House and Senate intend to change the commonwealth’s congressional map radically in a distinctly unrepresentative manner. By cramming as many rural Republican voters as possible into one western congressional district, and extending the reach of overwhelmingly Democratic suburban Washington, D.C. voters far into rural Virginia, Democrats have changed a fair and representative 6-5 congressional map into a lopsided and undemocratic 10-1 Democratic advantage.

Voters in deep blue Arlington County, across the river from DC, would select congressmen for voters in deep red Augusta County on the West Virginia border. Voters in deep blue Fairfax County would be in the same district as voters in the Shenandoah Valley. There is no logical or policy reason for these changes. The voters in the new districts share no media markets and live hours apart. These changes would only be made for purely partisan reasons.

To add insult to injury, Spanberger and her Democratic allies have written the language that appears on the ballot in the most dishonest and partisan way possible. Instead of admitting that they want to throw out bipartisan maps and use partisan ones, the description on the ballot asks, “Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

Fairness? There is nothing “fair” or honest about taking a map that matches the partisan outcome of the last presidential election and replacing it with a map that favors Democrats by a 10-1 margin.

Virginia Democrats claim, like children, that since Trump “started it” by calling on Texas to change their maps, Democrats should retaliate by changing their maps, too. But this argument ignores two facts. First, before Texas moved to change its map, the states with the most gerrymandered maps were all Democratic. Despite only 55% of voters choosing Democrats in 2024, 82% of Illinois House seats went to Democrats. In California, 83% of House seats were under Democratic control while Democrats only got 59% of the vote statewide. In New Jersey, 75% of House seats belong to Democrats, while the party secured only 52% of the seats statewide.

Second, the Census Bureau has admitted it bungled the 2020 Census, overcounting people in Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Rhode Island (all Democratic states), while undercounting in Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Arkansas (all Republican states), costing Republicans six House seats. None of these facts made their way onto the ballot wording of Spanberger’s proposed Virginia constitutional amendment.

Democrats nationally, not just in Virginia, have been asking themselves how they lost rural America and what they can do to get it back. Perhaps the party ought to consider that disenfranchising millions of rural voters with blatantly partisan congressional maps is a step in the wrong direction.

Early voting has started for the proposed change and I'm not seeing any Vote Yes signs in my AO, only Vote No signs.

It must not look too good for the dems because I'm already hearing that they are going to try to use the courts to nullify a poor result if the voters shoot it down.

A couple of points about the issue:

• The referendum is in reaction to Trump and the GOP engaging in a mid-decade redistricting, something rare and not supported even by a majority of the GOP
• The VA redistrict is a one-off, it expires at the time of the next census
• VA has lots of Dems and we all voted to take politics out of redistricting so if Trump had kept out of it there would be no referendum
• I got a postcard in the mail with a picture of Spanburger and a quote of hers decrying gerrymandering. It FALSELY implies she is against it. She is for it. The card was sent by a GOP led PAC.
• I already sent in my absentee ballot supporting the referendum. I don't like the referendum but I feel Trump left me no choice.

 

[Lockback]

How's it different than Texas?

Well, at least the Republicans don't blatantly lie to the voters.
Spanberger did. The Whopper Alarm should go off every time she opens her ugly mouth. She's a horrible person, never to be trusted.

 

[citygator]

Well, at least the Republicans don't blatantly lie to the voters.
Spanberger did. The Whopper Alarm should go off every time she opens her ugly mouth. She's a horrible person, never to be trusted.

I really cant follow your logic. You are for gerrymandering if you like the team doing it is basically your point.

 

[Lockback]

I really cant follow your logic. You are for gerrymandering if you like the team doing it is basically your point.

I never said I was in favor of gerrymandering.
What I have said is the Spanberger is a simply awful human being and she fccking LIED to the public, portraying herself as a moderate.
She's not a moderate.
She's just another Far Left Democrat, bowing to the Twin Gods of Gun Control and Ridiculous Taxes.
She's a goddam phony. A liar.

 

[citygator]

I never said I was in favor of gerrymandering.
What I have said is the Spanberger is a simply awful human being and she fccking LIED to the public, portraying herself as a moderate.
She's not a moderate.
She's just another Far Left Democrat, bowing to the Twin Gods of Gun Control and Ridiculous Taxes.
She's a goddam phony. A liar.

Did you vote for her?

 

[Lockback]

Did you vote for her?

Of course not.
1) I don't live in Virginia
2) I wouldn't vote for a Democrat with a gun to my head