Spanberger tells rural Virginia to drop dead

[Blaster]

The vile dems here in Virginia were just looking for an excuse.

Move to a red state.

 

[hadit]

And you gave them one by trying to redistrict Texas and Indiana.

I personally see this as a bad thing. Few districts are competitive at all.

Right now, I live in a district where a bunch of lefties are all arguing over who hates Trump and ICE the most.

So, turn it over to an AI that draws districts based on population numbers only.

 

[1srelluc]

Move to a red state.

Bugger-off.

 

[hadit]

Move to a red state.

Virginia was a purple state and generally well run for a long time. Democrat greed is destroying that.

 

[Blaster]

Virginia was a purple state and generally well run for a long time. Democrat greed is destroying that.

The citizens of Virginia made a poor choice and now must live with the consequences.

 

[Lockback]

Virginia was a purple state and generally well run for a long time. Democrat greed is destroying that.

I think Spanberger is a portent of things to come for Democrats: a Deep State ex-CIA agent, completely without shame, a pathological liar and absolutely ruthless. On Day One after taking the oath of office, she immediately moved to raise taxes and ban certain firearms.
Let this be a lesson to anybody thinking of voting for a Democrat.

 

[Blaster]

I think Spanberger is a portent of things to come for Democrats: a Deep State ex-CIA agent, completely without shame, a pathological liar and absolutely ruthless. On Day One after taking the oath of office, she immediately moved to raise taxes and ban certain firearms.
Let this be a lesson to anybody thinking of voting for a Democrat.

Some people never learn.

 

[Blaster]

I learned the hard way and will never vote for another Democrat.

 

[1srelluc]

It's not lost upon me that the number of NY transplants who moved into Virginia since the last Governor's election (into mostly NOtVA) is almost exactly her margin of victory over Sears.....I guess vile dem NY transplants hate black women.

 

[Independent thinker]

MSN

Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger has pursued a maximalist partisan agenda since being sworn into office. She is making housing, healthcare, and energy all more expensive. But nothing she has done so far is as insulting as the language her party attached to its ballot referendum to disenfranchise millions of rural Republican voters this April.

Six years ago, Virginia voters overwhelmingly passed a Constitutional Amendment creating a bipartisan Virginia Redistricting Commission. That commission drew a congressional map that was objectively fair. In 2024, when Vice President Kamala Harris won 52% of the vote to President Donald Trump’s 46%, the resulting congressional delegation was 55% Democratic (six seats) and 45% Republican (five seats).

It could not be fairer than that.

Now Spanberger and her Democratic Party majorities in the Virginia House and Senate intend to change the commonwealth’s congressional map radically in a distinctly unrepresentative manner. By cramming as many rural Republican voters as possible into one western congressional district, and extending the reach of overwhelmingly Democratic suburban Washington, D.C. voters far into rural Virginia, Democrats have changed a fair and representative 6-5 congressional map into a lopsided and undemocratic 10-1 Democratic advantage.

Voters in deep blue Arlington County, across the river from DC, would select congressmen for voters in deep red Augusta County on the West Virginia border. Voters in deep blue Fairfax County would be in the same district as voters in the Shenandoah Valley. There is no logical or policy reason for these changes. The voters in the new districts share no media markets and live hours apart. These changes would only be made for purely partisan reasons.

To add insult to injury, Spanberger and her Democratic allies have written the language that appears on the ballot in the most dishonest and partisan way possible. Instead of admitting that they want to throw out bipartisan maps and use partisan ones, the description on the ballot asks, “Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?”

Fairness? There is nothing “fair” or honest about taking a map that matches the partisan outcome of the last presidential election and replacing it with a map that favors Democrats by a 10-1 margin.

Virginia Democrats claim, like children, that since Trump “started it” by calling on Texas to change their maps, Democrats should retaliate by changing their maps, too. But this argument ignores two facts. First, before Texas moved to change its map, the states with the most gerrymandered maps were all Democratic. Despite only 55% of voters choosing Democrats in 2024, 82% of Illinois House seats went to Democrats. In California, 83% of House seats were under Democratic control while Democrats only got 59% of the vote statewide. In New Jersey, 75% of House seats belong to Democrats, while the party secured only 52% of the seats statewide.

Second, the Census Bureau has admitted it bungled the 2020 Census, overcounting people in Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Rhode Island (all Democratic states), while undercounting in Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Arkansas (all Republican states), costing Republicans six House seats. None of these facts made their way onto the ballot wording of Spanberger’s proposed Virginia constitutional amendment.

Democrats nationally, not just in Virginia, have been asking themselves how they lost rural America and what they can do to get it back. Perhaps the party ought to consider that disenfranchising millions of rural voters with blatantly partisan congressional maps is a step in the wrong direction.

Early voting has started for the proposed change and I'm not seeing any Vote Yes signs in my AO, only Vote No signs.

It must not look too good for the dems because I'm already hearing that they are going to try to use the courts to nullify a poor result if the voters shoot it down.

Your problem is you forgot that to democrats, "fair" means having an advantage anyway they can.

 

[cnm]

The vile dems here in Virginia were just looking for an excuse.

And so they were given it. Bigly.

 

[cnm]

Joe, you've been properly skewered on this multiple times. Still maintain Republicans "started" gerrymandering?

Yeah, the latest most egregious examples, at the direct behest of Chump.

It's almost as though they couldn't see the Strait of Hormuz would be blockaded immediately.

 

[22lcidw]

You guys started the Gerrymandering BS, don't complain now that it's biting you in the ass.

You gerrymandered from decades ago. The Republican party sat on their ass as they have done for many decades. You can argue the W. election in 2000; the reality though is you were cheating than and he won easily.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[Mac-7]

You guys started the Gerrymandering BS, don't complain now that it's biting you in the ass.

Your democrats had a big head-start at gerrymandering long before trump came along

 

[Doc7505]

Pretty good, given most of those states only have one or two representatives.

Republicans used to get elected in those states before you all lost your ever-loving minds.

Nope. Democrats have been gerrymandering districts as far back as the fifties. Probably longer.

<~~~~~~~~~~>
Democrats have recently shifted their stance on gerrymandering, previously denouncing it as a threat to democracy while now considering it a necessary tactic in response to Republican efforts. Tammany Hall, a historical political machine in New York, was known for its own manipulative practices in politics, particularly in the 19th and early 20th centuries, often using similar tactics to maintain power.
Recent actions by Democratic leaders indicate a shift in their stance. For example, some Democratic officials are now considering gerrymandering as a necessary tactic in response to Republican efforts. This change has raised concerns about the party's credibility and commitment to fair representation.
Both the current Democratic approach to gerrymandering and the historical practices of Tammany Hall reflect the complexities of political strategy and the ongoing challenges of ensuring fair representation in the electoral process.

Read More:

Democrats’ Gerrymandering Flip-Flop Erodes Their Credibility

For years, the Democratic Party framed gerrymandering as a fundamental threat to democracy. In response to continued GOP gerrymandering, Democrats are changing their tune — a shift likely to further erode trust in the party and US political institutions.

jacobin.com

 

[Lockback]

You guys started the Gerrymandering BS, don't complain now that it's biting you in the ass.

Yeah.
It's a brand new concept.




If you have no g.d. clue what you're talking about:

From Grok:
Gerrymandering—the practice of manipulating electoral district boundaries to favor one political party or group—has existed in various forms since the early days of the United States, with examples dating back to the late 1780s (such as Patrick Henry's attempts to draw districts in Virginia to disadvantage James Madison in 1788–1789 congressional elections).


However, the term "gerrymandering" itself was created in 1812. It originated as a portmanteau of "Gerry" (after Massachusetts Governor Elbridge Gerry) and "salamander."

• In late 1811/early 1812, the Massachusetts legislature (controlled by Gerry's Democratic-Republican Party) redrew state senate districts to concentrate Federalist voters into fewer districts while spreading their own supporters more widely, giving their party an advantage

 

[EMH]

but don't mention she is uber pro Israel and a lot of the Pro Israel Christians in VA voted for her....

 

[skews13]

The vile dems here in Virginia were just looking for an excuse.

And Trump and his ass kissers in Texas gave them one.

A good one.

Spanberger and Democrats won big for a reason. Because Trump and Republicans made everything more expensive, and now they will pay the price for it.

You have to be one dumb mother ****** to live in rural Virginia and vote for cuts to Medicaid and to give billionaires another tax cut.

But we are talking about rural Virginia here. They are poor and stupid for a reason.

 

[Lockback]

And Trump and his ass kissers in Texas gave them one.

A good one.

Spanberger and Democrats won big for a reason. Because Trump and Republicans made everything more expensive, and now they will pay the price for it.

You have to be one dumb mother ****** to live in rural Virginia and vote for cuts to Medicaid and to give billionaires another tax cut.

But we are talking about rural Virginia here. They are poor and stupid for a reason.

Yep. Your bigotry just shines through like a lantern in an outhouse.