Some of us have referred to the constant chaos trump creates. This is what we mean.

[Dekster]

Burger joints jacked up their prices because of the high price of meat. Made worse by Don tariffs on Brazil.

And yet I seldom eat beef in or out these days.

 

[Hafar1014]

TWO PROBLEMS.
NOT BEING ACCURATE
AND FORCED response to actions, Can turn against you.

Its a well proven strategy during the Korean war and in combat. Pilots had a19 to 1 kill ratio using this strategy.
They are already against you when you act and when they react they lose all advantage. Its basic aspect of combat handgun defense.
Think of it this way. If you the target of robbery on the street. The criminal picks the time and place. He acts and has the advantage. You have to observe and wait for the right moment to act and fight back appropriately. OC spray, gun, hand skills etc. Youll win

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I am devastated by your insults. Please take it back or I'll never be the same.

Was it something I said?

 

[Doc7505]

The issue isn't tariff's. The issue is how they are applied (in an unconstitutional manner) in a willy nilly fashion and apt to change daily.

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Historically, tariffs have frequently functioned as "cudgels" or tools of economic coercion, but their use has evolved, ranging from primary revenue generators to protective barriers and geopolitical leverage. While often used by major powers to protect domestic industries or pressure weaker nations and colonies, they have also served as instruments of trade negotiation.
Tariffs have been used to coerce other nations, such as in the 1930s with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, during the FDR admin., which worsened the Great Depression, or, in the modern era, as a tool for enforcing non-economic policy objectives.
Post-WWII, the US shifted toward reducing tariffs through agreements like the GATT (later WTO) to promote global trade.
Recent US administrations have broken with the post-WWII norm, using widespread tariffs against China and other nations as a tool of economic, rather than just protective, policy.

 

[pknopp]

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Historically, tariffs have frequently functioned as "cudgels" or tools of economic coercion, but their use has evolved, ranging from primary revenue generators to protective barriers and geopolitical leverage. While often used by major powers to protect domestic industries or pressure weaker nations and colonies, they have also served as instruments of trade negotiation.
Tariffs have been used to coerce other nations, such as in the 1930s with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, during the FDR admin., which worsened the Great Depression, or, in the modern era, as a tool for enforcing non-economic policy objectives.
Post-WWII, the US shifted toward reducing tariffs through agreements like the GATT (later WTO) to promote global trade.
Recent US administrations have broken with the post-WWII norm, using widespread tariffs against China and other nations as a tool of economic, rather than just protective, policy.

Hopefully now used only in a Constitutional manner.

 

[Doc7505]

Yes, the tariffs create uncertainty

In part because so many libs are pushing back against them

No one knows how long trump can sustain the effort against china

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We can see only as far as 2028, then it's anyone's game.

 

[Hafar1014]

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We can see only as far as 2028, then it's anyone's game.

China has weak economy dependent on exports. Trump is divesting and finding other sources. China has no internal economy. Without cheap labor and exports they cant survive.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hillary was right. He is temperamentally unfit to lead.

Trump is comprehensively unfit to lead.

 

[berg80]

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Historically, tariffs have frequently functioned as "cudgels" or tools of economic coercion, but their use has evolved, ranging from primary revenue generators to protective barriers and geopolitical leverage. While often used by major powers to protect domestic industries or pressure weaker nations and colonies, they have also served as instruments of trade negotiation.
Tariffs have been used to coerce other nations, such as in the 1930s with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, during the FDR admin., which worsened the Great Depression, or, in the modern era, as a tool for enforcing non-economic policy objectives.
Post-WWII, the US shifted toward reducing tariffs through agreements like the GATT (later WTO) to promote global trade.
Recent US administrations have broken with the post-WWII norm, using widespread tariffs against China and other nations as a tool of economic, rather than just protective, policy.

FedEx sues U.S. seeking full refund of Trump tariffs days after Supreme Court ruling​

FedEx sues U.S. seeking full refund of Trump tariffs days after Supreme Court ruling

The Trump administration has warned that it could take years for refunds to be paid out for tariffs that the Supreme Court ruled are illegal.

www.cnbc.com

Federal Express on Monday sued the U.S. government, seeking a “full refund” of the money the shipping giant paid for tariffs unilaterally imposed by President Donald Trump, which the Supreme Court last week ruled are illegal.

Probably the first of many suits.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, no.

AI Overview

The U.S. has utilized tariffs against China across multiple administrations to protect domestic industries and counter unfair trade practices. While Bush and Obama focused on specific sectors like tires and steel, the Biden administration maintained and significantly increased tariffs on key technologies. These actions are part of a long-term strategy to address trade imbalances.

No president, including trump has significantly reduced the trade imbalance with china

But trump is the only president that made it a priority

It takes mire than one 4-year term to reverse 25 years of stupid trade policy

 

[Mac-7]

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We can see only as far as 2028, then it's anyone's game.

Actually the pro china libs are expecting 2026 snd the midterms to be their year

 

[berg80]

And yet I seldom eat beef in or out these days.

Okay, well, that definitely solves the food inflation problem for the rest of the nation.

 

[berg80]

But trump is the only president that made it a priority

He gets credit for making it a priority but not fixing it? No wonder you adore him. He gets credit for failure.

 

[Harry Dresden]

He gets credit for making it a priority but not fixing it? No wonder you adore him. He gets credit for failure.

he said hes trying.....what did the presidents before him try?...

 

[Hafar1014]

Okay, well, that definitely solves the food inflation problem for the rest of the nation.

He gets credit for making it a priority but not fixing it? No wonder you adore him. He gets credit for failure.

Trump reduced the annual deficit from 2.6 to 1.7 trillion in one year. He fired 300000 useless government workers. Thats a damn good start

 

[Mac-7]

He gets credit for making it a priority but not fixing it? No wonder you adore him. He gets credit for failure.

No president can 30 years of bad trade policy in just 4 years

But at least we have finally begun

 

[Dekster]

Okay, well, that definitely solves the food inflation problem for the rest of the nation.

The beef problem is that ranchers haven't had this few head of cattle in line since the 1970's because they cannot feed as many because of drought over the parts of the country that produce cattle feed. It has nothing to do with tariffs. It is because of weather/climate change. That is why the supply is shorted and the price has skyrocketed.

 

[Doc7505]

The beef problem is that ranchers haven't had this few head of cattle in line since the 1970's because they cannot feed as many because of drought over the parts of the country that produce cattle feed. It has nothing to do with tariffs. It is because of weather/climate change. That is why the supply is shorted and the price has skyrocketed.

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Obama used the Antiquities Act to protect approximately 265 million acres of land and water. Groups like the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association (NCBA) argued these designations restricted access to traditional grazing pastures and shifted federal land management away from "multiple-use" purposes like ranching.
Obama began reducing access to BLM grazing land through the designation of national monuments and implementing stricter environmental regulations on public lands and excessive grazing fees.
Ranchers reported being "locked out" of traditional grazing pastures, with some areas seeing a reduction in Animal Unit Months (AUMs)—a measure of forage used to calculate grazing fees.
The "Public Lands Rule" (2024): This Biden-era rule established conservation as a recognized "use" of public lands, allowing for "restoration" and "mitigation" leases. Industry groups such as the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association (NCBA) argued this was a "backdoor way" to remove cattle from rangelands by leaving lands idle.
Rescinding the Rule: On September 10, 2025, the BLM began the formal process to rescind the Biden-era Public Lands Rule, citing a return to the "traditional multiple-use approach".
After the forced reduction in beef herds, it will take upwards of 4 years to increase the herds to pre-2021 numbers.
Today, The United States primarily imports its beef from Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Australia, and New Zealand. In 2024–2025, while North American partners (Canada and Mexico) historically led, Brazil and Australia have surged to become top suppliers due to tight U.S. domestic supplies, with Brazil seeing significant growth in shipments.

 

[Nostra]

Burger joints jacked up their prices because of the high price of meat. Made worse by Don tariffs on Brazil.

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Beef prices have significantly increased during Joe Biden's presidency, with prices rising nearly 50% compared to five years ago and up 15% from January 2025 alone. Factors contributing to this rise include supply chain issues, increased production costs, and a shrinking cattle herd in the U.S.
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Beef Price Trends During Biden's Term
Overview of Price Increases
Beef prices have significantly increased during Joe Biden's presidency.
As of January 2026, beef prices have risen by approximately 15% over the past year.
Compared to five years ago, beef prices are nearly 50% higher.

 

[Nostra]

No president can 30 years of bad trade policy in just 4 years

But at least we have finally begun

Especially with America hating Dimwingers fighting him on everything.