Some of us have referred to the constant chaos trump creates. This is what we mean.

Higher steel and aluminum costs would hit construction, auto, packaging, appliances, machinery, oil and gas, and electrical industries the hardest. Aluminum makes up around 80 percent of an airframe’s weight and—along with steel—a quarter of Coca-Cola packaging, meaning tariffs could make American planes and drinks pricier on the global market. Building a car, similarly, takes about half a ton of steel, so a 50 percent tariff could add over $2,000 in production costs per vehicle.

If we did away with government restrictions and permitting on construction. Houses would be 30% cheaper. You good with that? Since all a sudden you're worried about cost for once in your life.
 
Higher steel and aluminum costs would hit construction, auto, packaging, appliances, machinery, oil and gas, and electrical industries the hardest. Aluminum makes up around 80 percent of an airframe’s weight and—along with steel—a quarter of Coca-Cola packaging, meaning tariffs could make American planes and drinks pricier on the global market. Building a car, similarly, takes about half a ton of steel, so a 50 percent tariff could add over $2,000 in production costs per vehicle.

I appreciate the reply. No sarcasm.

The point is to expand production in the USA and create manufacturing jobs here. There are many ways to accomplish that. If production in the US scales upward, there is greater competition and supply. It increases quality and decreases prices and leads to more jobs.

The USA is one of the biggest reasons China is a superpower. We exported a significant amount of manufacturing to China. We now are greatly reliant on our biggest geopolitical adversary for many things from Pharmaceuticals to electronic devices.

We are over regulated for one thing.

These tariffs are intended to expand domestic production from the demand side initially.
 
Not for the people getting the pay raise.

EU postpones vote on U.S. trade deal after Trump’s latest tariff threat​

If they shop and eat at the same places I do, then yes their new wages are offset by increased prices. It is why the left keeps pushing for higher and higher wages because the increases never make things more affordable in the end.
 
I appreciate the reply. No sarcasm.

The point is to expand production in the USA and create manufacturing jobs here. There are many ways to accomplish that. If production in the US scales upward, there is greater competition and supply. It increases quality and decreases prices and leads to more jobs.

The USA is one of the biggest reasons China is a superpower. We exported a significant amount of manufacturing to China. We now are greatly reliant on our biggest geopolitical adversary for many things from Pharmaceuticals to electronic devices.

We are over regulated for one thing.

These tariffs are intended to expand domestic production from the demand side initially.
I understand the point. But in the end, tariffs are nothing more, and nothing less, than picking winners and losers. In the case of the steel and aluminum tariffs, the steel companies make out, everyone else ends up picking up the cost.

I also understand that is why Trump is so enthralled with tariffs, especially if he can unilaterally impose them. He gets to pick the winners and the losers, usually for a fee. In the end sometimes, you got to wonder if they are even thinking. We are going to lose the high end manufacturing jobs, the aircraft manufacturers, the automotive industry. For some reason, someone is telling them those hosiery and furniture factory jobs were awesome back in the day.
 
None of your predictions on this issue has come true. So there is no reason to listen to you now.
Start paying attention to what is happening in the world. It's one chaotic event after another created by trump.
 
If we did away with government restrictions and permitting on construction. Houses would be 30% cheaper. You good with that? Since all a sudden you're worried about cost for once in your life.
AI Overview

As of late 2025 and early 2026, U.S. lumber prices face upward pressure due to renewed and increased tariffs on Canadian imports, with total duties on some Canadian softwood lumber reaching approximately 35% to 45%. These tariffs, implemented under Section 232, exacerbate existing housing affordability challenges and increase building material costs.
 
Start paying attention to what is happening in the world. It's one chaotic event after another created by trump.
Yes and we was supposed to be in a great recession by now, by you loons predictions. We are doing great.
 
AI Overview

As of late 2025 and early 2026, U.S. lumber prices face upward pressure due to renewed and increased tariffs on Canadian imports, with total duties on some Canadian softwood lumber reaching approximately 35% to 45%. These tariffs, implemented under Section 232, exacerbate existing housing affordability challenges and increase building material costs.
Take out government regulations and it would cut 30% off the price of a house.
 
AI Overview

As of late 2025 and early 2026, U.S. lumber prices face upward pressure due to renewed and increased tariffs on Canadian imports, with total duties on some Canadian softwood lumber reaching approximately 35% to 45%. These tariffs, implemented under Section 232, exacerbate existing housing affordability challenges and increase building material costs.
Lumber is one of the things that really get me. Yes, this used to be furniture country. Guess it still is. But that industry was driven by lumber. And while the furniture factories are almost all gone, the lumber is still being harvested. Sawmill a few stones throws from the house. Family owned, probably fourth generation. Loaded trucks rolling in, loaded trucks rolling out. The problem, much of that lumber is exported. Billions of dollars every year.
 
First he gave China a huge win by pulling out of TPP three days after getting into office because China had too much power in controlling it. Then someone told him China weren't even a member.
Thats a lie

Where fid you hear that?
 

Europe hits back at ‘pure tariff chaos’ from the U.S., warning trade deals are at risk​

Europe has warned that trade deals struck with the U.S. could now be at risk after President Donald Trump unveiled a new global 15% tariff on all imports at the weekend.

Trump’s move came after the U.S. Supreme Court on Friday struck down his global tariffs policy, implemented last spring, that had upset the long-standing global trading order.

The president reacted to the Supreme Court’s judgment by initially announcing a new universal 10% levy, using a different legal framework for the latest tariffs, but then increased the global tariff rate to 15% — the legal maximum which can be in place for 150 days before Congressional approval is required.

The new import duties are “effective immediately,” Trump said in a Truth Social post on Saturday.

Officials in Europe and London expressed alarm and consternation at the latest upheaval in global trade relations, saying Trump’s new tariff policy could upend trade deals signed with the U.S. last year.


This is no way to run a country. But it is the trumpian way. Policies being whipsawed, erratic behavior, decisions untethered to rationality driven by anger, unpredictability at every turn. No one knows what trump will do from day to day...........including him.

Hillary was right. He is temperamentally unfit to lead. His abilities lie with writing crazy social media posts in the early morning hours, grifting, and posting juvenile videos. Not being a responsible adult who was elected to solve the nation's problems. In part because he has no interest in doing so unless there is something in it for him.

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This is your problem...

Trump is the most pro China US President in modern history if not all time.

First he gave China a huge win by pulling out of TPP three days after getting into office because China had too much power in controlling it. Then someone told him China weren't even a member.

He has gone from there to a retreat for competing for natural resources in Africa and other regions. This has given China almost a monopoly to rare earth metals to the point US can't built even military equipment without help from China.

This is Trump's Presidency, talk tough but turn over and show you belly on the first sign of threat. China has increased the trade deficit and Trump has increased the deficit.

Trump and Ivanka took money from China and possibly still are... Trump is clearly on the take and has enriched himself $1.4bn already in his first year of office, he most successful year at accumulating money and assets. Foreign governments know this and there are many willing to pay him off using Crypto, 'Presidential Library", Truth Social shares,.... These are scams...

So please stop with your China crap, Trump sold out to them in the first term...
China got sweetheart deals for 25 years before trump took office

He was the first world leader to push back against the chicoms
 
Look at it this way. Benedict Donald says he can destroy the USA if he wants to.......

Republican's Cheer "Death to America" if Democrat don't respect Benedicts Donald's Authoritah!

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This is your problem...

Trump is the most pro China US President in modern history if not all time.

First he gave China a huge win by pulling out of TPP three days after getting into office because China had too much power in controlling it. Then someone told him China weren't even a member.

He has gone from there to a retreat for competing for natural resources in Africa and other regions. This has given China almost a monopoly to rare earth metals to the point US can't built even military equipment without help from China.

This is Trump's Presidency, talk tough but turn over and show you belly on the first sign of threat. China has increased the trade deficit and Trump has increased the deficit.

Trump and Ivanka took money from China and possibly still are... Trump is clearly on the take and has enriched himself $1.4bn already in his first year of office, he most successful year at accumulating money and assets. Foreign governments know this and there are many willing to pay him off using Crypto, 'Presidential Library", Truth Social shares,.... These are scams...

So please stop with your China crap, Trump sold out to them in the first term...
Do support trade with china?
 
Seriously no ******* clue...

If you have a guy who is a supplier... He is constantly changing prices, rude, threatening delivery....
You might tolerate him for a while but you are looking for a new more reliable supplier..
All the trade deals Trump is getting done proves you are a moron.

HTH.
 
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If they shop and eat at the same places I do, then yes their new wages are offset by increased prices. It is why the left keeps pushing for higher and higher wages because the increases never make things more affordable in the end.
Burger joints jacked up their prices because of the high price of meat. Made worse by Don tariffs on Brazil.
 
China got sweetheart deals for 25 years before trump took office
Well, no.

AI Overview

The U.S. has utilized tariffs against China across multiple administrations to protect domestic industries and counter unfair trade practices. While Bush and Obama focused on specific sectors like tires and steel, the Biden administration maintained and significantly increased tariffs on key technologies. These actions are part of a long-term strategy to address trade imbalances.
 
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