Some of us have referred to the constant chaos trump creates. This is what we mean.

[Mac-7]

And yet, here we are. The flock (still) adores and believes him.

I went several years before I would use the terms "cult" and "fascism" in describing all of this. But at some point, this became a little too obvious (and essentially dishonest) to ignore, so I went ahead and started using the terms. And now, I've had a little unnpleasant epiphany over the last month or so.

While I truly don't like saying this, something else has become clear to me: I think that overall, the flock (not counting the craven politicians and opportunistic professional sycophants) simply lacks the intellectual elasticity to see any of this chaos. They just can't. So I don't think they're lying when they deny it.

I avoided going down that road (just like with "fascist" and "cult"), but that's where I've ended up.

Without tariffs EVERYTHING Americans have would be msde in china

 

[Mac-7]

He hasnt violated any curt orders. He wins on appeal

The court orders are a delaying tactic by dems

Most are later overturned by a higher court

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can't get there. Tragic for the country, yes. But he will walk away having grifted billions, effectively having destroyed the DoJ, I'm not going to list all the reasons making him the worst prez of all time and the damage done. I can not muster any sympathy for him.

and yet you asses let this "worst" president beat you at election time....maybe next time pick a better candidate who actually will offer something better....

 

[berg80]

Without tariffs EVERYTHING Americans have would be msde in china

Going through life being that misinformed must be hard.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Depends on definitions, I reckon. He's an awful, miserable, desperately needy, profoundly damaged human being. Look up "malignant narcissist" and he checks pretty much every box.

But how is he in the White House? And how does he stay there? I just see another story. He's not ideological, he doesn't have either the capacity or the discipline to be ideological. He's just this... thing... that is being held up for idolatry by TRUE ideologues. People who have worked for him say he doesn't know anything. He's like a feral, predatory animal.

I dunno. It's just difficult to hold on to the notion that he is an adult who knows what he's doing. Wouldn't that be a requisite for working so hard to create so much chaos?

how is he in the white house?....look who you dipshits picked to run against him?...

 

[berg80]

The court orders are a delaying tactic by dems

Even the ones put in place by judges appointed by R's?

 

[dblack]

how is he in the white house?....look who you dipshits picked to run against him?...

Mac didn't pick Biden. Or Harris. But you're right. Dems can't credibly ***** about Trump until they figure out how to nominate a decent candidate.

 

[Mac-7]

Going through life being that misinformed must be hard.

That applies to you more than me

Communist china is the ultimate mercantile nation

 

[Mac-7]

Even the ones put in place by judges appointed by R's?

Possibly

Many old school republicans are die hard trump haters

 

[berg80]

Mac didn't pick Biden. Or Harris. But you're right. Dems can't credibly ***** about Trump until they figure out how to nominate a decent candidate.

trump is uniquely unqualified to hold any elected office, especially POTUS, from the standpoint of policy, integrity, knowledge, morality, decency, and personal conduct.

 

[Lockback]

trump is uniquely unqualified to hold any elected office, especially POTUS, from the standpoint of policy, integrity, knowledge, morality, decency, and personal conduct.

Every day that goes by provides more proof that Trump is becoming one of the best Presidents in American history.

 

[berg80]

Possibly

Many old school republicans are die hard trump haters

You folks always falsely characterize members of the judiciary as "trump haters" if they rule against him in accordance with the rule of law. Hate has nothing to do with. Respect for the law does.

 

[dblack]

trump is uniquely unqualified to hold any elected office, especially POTUS, from the standpoint of policy, integrity, knowledge, morality, decency, and personal conduct.

Yup. Which makes it that much more frustrating that Dems can't comp up with a more appealing alternative.

 

[dblack]

You folks always falsely characterize members of the judiciary as "trump haters" if they rule against him in accordance with the rule of law. Hate has nothing to do with. Respect for the law does.

The "arguments" that hardcore, culture-warrior partisans use are all fake. Just ammunition to fling. They've given up on discourse and debate. To them, we're in a civil war - and war justifies all manor of heinous acts in the name of winning. So, they'll lie, cheat, steal, destroy for their team. Thus are the fruits of the duopoly.

 

[berg80]

That applies to you more than me

Communist china is the ultimate mercantile nation

‘Coercion, Threats, and Fear’​

Attorneys who succeeded in blocking a middle-of-the-night effort to deport unaccompanied Guatemalan minors over the Labor Day weekend are now seeking a civil contempt of court ruling against the Trump administration for allegedly circumventing a judge’s order that continues to bar their deportation.

In the new filing in federal court in D.C., the lawyers alleged that Customs and Border Protection is “using misinformation, coercion, threats, and fear” to convince Guatemalan minors who arrive at the border to relinquish their rights and to self-deport before they enter the system designed to give special protections to minors.

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Things like this and much worse are happening every day but you keep yourself insulated from them by only consuming right wing media.

 

[Mac-7]

You folks always falsely characterize members of the judiciary as "trump haters" if they rule against him in accordance with the rule of law. Hate has nothing to do with. Respect for the law does.

Not all of them

But inside washington is a brain disease that infects most of the government lifers whether they are democrats or republicans

Trump is an outsider, and the entry level judges are the guardians of the realm trying to expel him

 

[Harry Dresden]

Mac didn't pick Biden. Or Harris. But you're right. Dems can't credibly ***** about Trump until they figure out how to nominate a decent candidate.

the mac of 10 years ago yes....this mac,im not so sure about that.....

 

[dblack]

the mac of 10 years ago yes....this mac,im not so sure about that.....

Yeah. Partisans are obsessed with loyalty and party identity. "Us against them", etc...

 

[Harry Dresden]

trump is uniquely unqualified to hold any elected office, especially POTUS, from the standpoint of policy, integrity, knowledge, morality, decency, and personal conduct.

lol...there are so many in positions around the country who are unqualified to hold any elected office,and that includes people in your party too berg....we see many right now in congress...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yup. Which makes it that much more frustrating that Dems can't comp up with a more appealing alternative.

because in spite of what each party tells you,the politicians this century are some of the worst politicians we have ever seen....what you are seeing is everyones best....both parties C caliber people....