Slavery: Don't Blame The Bible

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4. The term itself, "slavery" does not have a single, indelible meaning…

a. In 1619, a Dutch ship, the White Lion, captured 20 enslaved Africans in a battle with a Spanish ship. They landed at Jamestown, Virginia for repairs from the battle. For food and supplies, the Dutch traded the enslaved Africans to the Colonials as indentured servants.


That meaning is far removed from this:

b.

History of Slavery



5. The aspects that identify what we call 'slavery' today, the colloquial meaning, are the following:

a. permanence of bondage

b. treatment as material assets

c. control of the life and death of the slave: the slave could be beaten to death

d. an escaped slave had to be returned to his master….as decreed in the Dred Scott Democrat Supreme Court decision.


None of the above are allowed to the 'slave owner' by the Bible.


"The Bible uses the Hebrew term eved (עבד) and Greek doulos (δοῦλος) to refer to slaves. Eved has a much wider meaning than the English term slave, and in many circumstances it is more accurately translated into English as servant or hired worker."
Christian views on slavery - Wikipedia


e,g, "God spoke face-to-face with Moses but Joshua will be instructed by Eleazar; Moses was the servant of God but Joshua is Moses’s minister (Joshua 1.1)." https://uwaterloo.ca/grebel/sites/ca.grebel/files/uploads/files/CGR-22-1-W2004-1_1.pdf

 

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1. We call it 'fake news' today, but it is the boilerplate methodology of the left to lie by omission as much as by commission.
As their main goal in manipulating the electorate is to end religious faith, they take very opportunity to blame societal evils on religion, morality….and the Bible.
As is the case with so very many of the Left's memes......it just ain't so.


2. For context, every single society in history has had some sort of slavery in it's history. This is because it is among the most fundamental forms of every economic system. When the poor did not own any thing but themselves, their body was collateral, hence, what we call indentured servitude.

a. August 31, 1619 The first 20 blacks are purchased as indentured servants by Jamestown colonists “from a dutch man of warre”-from John Rolfe’s diary.
The first people of African heritage were brought to Virginia by the Dutch. A Dutch ship which either traded for the slaves or stole them from the Spanish entered Chesapeake Bay and sold 20 slaves in August of1619. Virginia's first white settlers did not automatically assume that the Africans were to be slaves always. They treated them as indentured servants, which would grant them personal freedom after 4 to 7 years

b. How and when this changed to perpetual slavery for blacks is unclear, but by the 1640’s, Africans brought to Virginia no longer had indenture contracts. Yet as late as 1651, some Negroes whose period of indenture expired were still being assigned land for themselves, as were the white indentured servants.
Franklin, “From Slavery to Freedom,” p. 71-72.

c. There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
Helen Keller




3. The Left puts the term 'slave' to their use by implying that it has just one immutable meaning, and applies it to the situation that black folks found themselves in under the tender mercies of the rules of the South, of Simon Legree….the Democrat Party.
It doesn't: 'slavery' and 'slave' has different meanings at different times and in different geographies.

The only way slavery in the United States fits into the picture above is via the African Slave Trade and/or the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Neither of these species is related to the Bible.

a. " Africans played a direct role in the slave trade, selling their captives or prisoners of war to European buyers.[19] The prisoners and captives who were sold were usually from neighbouring or enemy ethnic groups. These captive slaves were considered "other", not part of the people of the ethnic group or "tribe"; African kings held no particular loyalty to them. Sometimes criminals would be sold so that they could no longer commit crimes in that area. Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans." Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia


Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.

I'll prove that in a moment.

As usual....Democrats want to make Whites the only party involved in slavery. This may be mostly true in America, because mostly white Democrats had slaves over 150 years ago.
Strange thing is, Islam still to this day continues the practice.
Who in America supports Islam?
Democrats of course.
But because they're guilty of this sin, they have a choice of either owing up to it, or projecting this sin upon those they hate.
Democrat usually do the latter.

Name the Democrats who support slavery.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

 

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1. We call it 'fake news' today, but it is the boilerplate methodology of the left to lie by omission as much as by commission.
As their main goal in manipulating the electorate is to end religious faith, they take very opportunity to blame societal evils on religion, morality….and the Bible.
As is the case with so very many of the Left's memes......it just ain't so.


2. For context, every single society in history has had some sort of slavery in it's history. This is because it is among the most fundamental forms of every economic system. When the poor did not own any thing but themselves, their body was collateral, hence, what we call indentured servitude.

a. August 31, 1619 The first 20 blacks are purchased as indentured servants by Jamestown colonists “from a dutch man of warre”-from John Rolfe’s diary.
The first people of African heritage were brought to Virginia by the Dutch. A Dutch ship which either traded for the slaves or stole them from the Spanish entered Chesapeake Bay and sold 20 slaves in August of1619. Virginia's first white settlers did not automatically assume that the Africans were to be slaves always. They treated them as indentured servants, which would grant them personal freedom after 4 to 7 years

b. How and when this changed to perpetual slavery for blacks is unclear, but by the 1640’s, Africans brought to Virginia no longer had indenture contracts. Yet as late as 1651, some Negroes whose period of indenture expired were still being assigned land for themselves, as were the white indentured servants.
Franklin, “From Slavery to Freedom,” p. 71-72.

c. There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
Helen Keller




3. The Left puts the term 'slave' to their use by implying that it has just one immutable meaning, and applies it to the situation that black folks found themselves in under the tender mercies of the rules of the South, of Simon Legree….the Democrat Party.
It doesn't: 'slavery' and 'slave' has different meanings at different times and in different geographies.

The only way slavery in the United States fits into the picture above is via the African Slave Trade and/or the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Neither of these species is related to the Bible.

a. " Africans played a direct role in the slave trade, selling their captives or prisoners of war to European buyers.[19] The prisoners and captives who were sold were usually from neighbouring or enemy ethnic groups. These captive slaves were considered "other", not part of the people of the ethnic group or "tribe"; African kings held no particular loyalty to them. Sometimes criminals would be sold so that they could no longer commit crimes in that area. Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans." Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia


Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.

I'll prove that in a moment.

So if everyone has slavery in their ancestors, why all the RWnut bullshit about Democrats being the party of slavery?

It's only because Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The characterization as "party of slavery" for demos is idiotic

In May of 1854, following the passage of these pro-slavery laws in Congress, a number of anti-slavery Democrats along with some anti-slavery members from other parties, including the Whigs, Free-Soilers, and Emancipationists formed a new party to fight slavery and secure equal civil rights. The name of the new party? The Republican Party. It was named the Republican Party because they wanted to return to the principles of freedom set forth in the governing documents of the Republic before pro-slavery members of Congress had perverted those original principles.

History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

Republican Party - The Republican Party In The New Millennium

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow. Jim Crow Stories . Republican Party | PBS

"The Democratic Party had become the dominant political party in America in the 1820s, [30] and in May 1854, in response to the strong pro-slavery positions of the Democrats, several anti-slavery Members of Congress formed an anti-slavery party – the Republican Party. [31] It was founded upon the principles of equality originally set forth in the governing documents of the Republic. In an 1865 publication documenting the history of black voting rights, Philadelphia attorney John Hancock confirmed that the Declaration of Independence set forth “equal rights to all. It contains not a word nor a clause regarding color. Nor is there any provision of the kind to be found in the Constitution of the United States.”

The History of Black Voting Rights [Great read!]

In 1856, the Democratic platform strongly defended slavery. According to the Democrats of 1856, ending slavery would be dangerous and would ruin the happiness of the people.

“All efforts of the abolitionists... are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences and all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people.” McKee, The National...Platforms, Democratic Platform of 1856, p.91

In 1857, a Democratically controlled Supreme Court delivered the Dred Scott decision, declaring that blacks were not persons or citizens but instead were property and therefore had no rights. In effect, Democrats believed slaves were property that could be disposed of at the will of its owner.

Democrats on the Court announced that "blacks had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the Negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it." Dred Scott at 407 (1856)

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Dred Scott Decision

Dred Scott

Dred Scott: Democratic Reaction

The Democratic Platform for 1860 supported both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857. The Democrats even handed out copies of the Dred Scott decision with their platform to affirm that it was proper to hold African Americans in bondage.

2. Inasmuch as difference of opinion exists in the Democratic party as to the nature and extent of the powers of a Territorial Legislature, and as to the powers and duties of Congress, under the Constitution of the United States, over the institution of slavery within the Territories, Resolved, That the Democratic party will abide by the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States upon these questions of Constitutional Law.

6. Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.

Avalon Project - Democratic Party Platform; June 18, 1860

The Republican platform of 1860, on the other hand, blasted both the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 and the Dred Scott decision of 1857 and announced its continued intent to end slavery and secure equal civil rights for black Americans.

2. That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Federal Constitution, "That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," is essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions; and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the states, and the Union of the states, must and shall be preserved.

5. That the present Democratic Administration has far exceeded our worst apprehension in its measureless subserviency to the exactions of a sectional interest, as is especially evident in its desperate exertions to force the infamous Lecompton constitution upon the protesting people of Kansas - in construing the personal relation between master and servant to involve an unqualified property in persons - in its attempted enforcement everywhere, on land and sea, through the intervention of congress and of the federal courts, of the extreme pretensions of a purely local interest, and in its general and unvarying abuse of the power entrusted to it by a confiding people.

7. That the new dogma that the Constitution of its own force carries slavery into any or all of the territories of the United States, is a dangerous political heresy, at variance with the explicit provisions of that instrument itself, with cotemporaneous exposition, and with legislative and judicial precedent, is revolutionary in its tendency and subversive of the peace and harmony of the country.

8. That the normal condition of all the territory of the United States is that of freedom; that as our republican fathers, when they had abolished slavery in all our national territory, ordained that no "person should be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law," it becomes our duty, by legislation, whenever such legislation is necessary, to maintain this provision of the constitution against all attempts to violate it; and we deny the authority of congress, of a territorial legislature, or of any individuals, to give legal existence to slavery in any territory of the United States.

9. That we brand the recent re-opening of the African Slave Trade, under the cover of our national flag, aided by perversions of judicial power, as a crime against humanity, and a burning shame to our country and age, and we call upon congress to take prompt and efficient measures for the total and final suppression of that execrable traffic.

10. That in the recent vetoes by the federal governors of the acts of the Legislatures of Kansas and Nebraska, prohibiting slavery in those territories, we find a practical illustration of the boasted democratic principle of non- intervention and popular sovereignty, embodied in the Kansas-Nebraska bill, and a demonstration of the deception and fraud involved therein.
Republican Party National Platform, 1860

 

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It's never about what a religious book says; it's always about what people say the book says.

No. It's never about what you say it says.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. We call it 'fake news' today, but it is the boilerplate methodology of the left to lie by omission as much as by commission.
As their main goal in manipulating the electorate is to end religious faith, they take very opportunity to blame societal evils on religion, morality….and the Bible.
As is the case with so very many of the Left's memes......it just ain't so.


2. For context, every single society in history has had some sort of slavery in it's history. This is because it is among the most fundamental forms of every economic system. When the poor did not own any thing but themselves, their body was collateral, hence, what we call indentured servitude.

a. August 31, 1619 The first 20 blacks are purchased as indentured servants by Jamestown colonists “from a dutch man of warre”-from John Rolfe’s diary.
The first people of African heritage were brought to Virginia by the Dutch. A Dutch ship which either traded for the slaves or stole them from the Spanish entered Chesapeake Bay and sold 20 slaves in August of1619. Virginia's first white settlers did not automatically assume that the Africans were to be slaves always. They treated them as indentured servants, which would grant them personal freedom after 4 to 7 years

b. How and when this changed to perpetual slavery for blacks is unclear, but by the 1640’s, Africans brought to Virginia no longer had indenture contracts. Yet as late as 1651, some Negroes whose period of indenture expired were still being assigned land for themselves, as were the white indentured servants.
Franklin, “From Slavery to Freedom,” p. 71-72.

c. There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
Helen Keller




3. The Left puts the term 'slave' to their use by implying that it has just one immutable meaning, and applies it to the situation that black folks found themselves in under the tender mercies of the rules of the South, of Simon Legree….the Democrat Party.
It doesn't: 'slavery' and 'slave' has different meanings at different times and in different geographies.

The only way slavery in the United States fits into the picture above is via the African Slave Trade and/or the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Neither of these species is related to the Bible.

a. " Africans played a direct role in the slave trade, selling their captives or prisoners of war to European buyers.[19] The prisoners and captives who were sold were usually from neighbouring or enemy ethnic groups. These captive slaves were considered "other", not part of the people of the ethnic group or "tribe"; African kings held no particular loyalty to them. Sometimes criminals would be sold so that they could no longer commit crimes in that area. Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans." Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia


Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.

I'll prove that in a moment.

As usual....Democrats want to make Whites the only party involved in slavery. This may be mostly true in America, because mostly white Democrats had slaves over 150 years ago.
Strange thing is, Islam still to this day continues the practice.
Who in America supports Islam?
Democrats of course.
But because they're guilty of this sin, they have a choice of either owing up to it, or projecting this sin upon those they hate.
Democrat usually do the latter.

Name the Democrats who support slavery.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

The Democrats of the 19th century have nothing to do with the Democratic Party of today.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You know how RW'ers love to refer to Republicans who don't conform to the conservative ideology as RINO's, Republicans in name only?

 

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You know how RW'ers love to refer to Republicans who don't conform to the conservative ideology as RINO's, Republicans in name only?

So what you are saying is that in your typical liberal tradition of dismissing your defeats and ignoring your incongruities you are appropriating the Republican heritage as your own?

Then you will have to explain to me why you still see some human life as property to be disposed of at the will of its owner.

Some things never change.

 

[ding]

1. We call it 'fake news' today, but it is the boilerplate methodology of the left to lie by omission as much as by commission.
As their main goal in manipulating the electorate is to end religious faith, they take very opportunity to blame societal evils on religion, morality….and the Bible.
As is the case with so very many of the Left's memes......it just ain't so.


2. For context, every single society in history has had some sort of slavery in it's history. This is because it is among the most fundamental forms of every economic system. When the poor did not own any thing but themselves, their body was collateral, hence, what we call indentured servitude.

a. August 31, 1619 The first 20 blacks are purchased as indentured servants by Jamestown colonists “from a dutch man of warre”-from John Rolfe’s diary.
The first people of African heritage were brought to Virginia by the Dutch. A Dutch ship which either traded for the slaves or stole them from the Spanish entered Chesapeake Bay and sold 20 slaves in August of1619. Virginia's first white settlers did not automatically assume that the Africans were to be slaves always. They treated them as indentured servants, which would grant them personal freedom after 4 to 7 years

b. How and when this changed to perpetual slavery for blacks is unclear, but by the 1640’s, Africans brought to Virginia no longer had indenture contracts. Yet as late as 1651, some Negroes whose period of indenture expired were still being assigned land for themselves, as were the white indentured servants.
Franklin, “From Slavery to Freedom,” p. 71-72.

c. There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
Helen Keller




3. The Left puts the term 'slave' to their use by implying that it has just one immutable meaning, and applies it to the situation that black folks found themselves in under the tender mercies of the rules of the South, of Simon Legree….the Democrat Party.
It doesn't: 'slavery' and 'slave' has different meanings at different times and in different geographies.

The only way slavery in the United States fits into the picture above is via the African Slave Trade and/or the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Neither of these species is related to the Bible.

a. " Africans played a direct role in the slave trade, selling their captives or prisoners of war to European buyers.[19] The prisoners and captives who were sold were usually from neighbouring or enemy ethnic groups. These captive slaves were considered "other", not part of the people of the ethnic group or "tribe"; African kings held no particular loyalty to them. Sometimes criminals would be sold so that they could no longer commit crimes in that area. Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans." Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia


Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.

I'll prove that in a moment.

As usual....Democrats want to make Whites the only party involved in slavery. This may be mostly true in America, because mostly white Democrats had slaves over 150 years ago.
Strange thing is, Islam still to this day continues the practice.
Who in America supports Islam?
Democrats of course.
But because they're guilty of this sin, they have a choice of either owing up to it, or projecting this sin upon those they hate.
Democrat usually do the latter.

Name the Democrats who support slavery.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

The Democrats of the 19th century have nothing to do with the Democratic Party of today.

Tell that to the baby in its mother's womb that you deny personhood to.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's never about what a religious book says; it's always about what people say the book says.

No. It's never about what you say it says.

It has to be. If it wasn't, then why are there dozens and dozens of Christian denominations/sects every one of whom disagrees in one way or another what the Bible really says and means?

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. We call it 'fake news' today, but it is the boilerplate methodology of the left to lie by omission as much as by commission.
As their main goal in manipulating the electorate is to end religious faith, they take very opportunity to blame societal evils on religion, morality….and the Bible.
As is the case with so very many of the Left's memes......it just ain't so.


2. For context, every single society in history has had some sort of slavery in it's history. This is because it is among the most fundamental forms of every economic system. When the poor did not own any thing but themselves, their body was collateral, hence, what we call indentured servitude.

a. August 31, 1619 The first 20 blacks are purchased as indentured servants by Jamestown colonists “from a dutch man of warre”-from John Rolfe’s diary.
The first people of African heritage were brought to Virginia by the Dutch. A Dutch ship which either traded for the slaves or stole them from the Spanish entered Chesapeake Bay and sold 20 slaves in August of1619. Virginia's first white settlers did not automatically assume that the Africans were to be slaves always. They treated them as indentured servants, which would grant them personal freedom after 4 to 7 years

b. How and when this changed to perpetual slavery for blacks is unclear, but by the 1640’s, Africans brought to Virginia no longer had indenture contracts. Yet as late as 1651, some Negroes whose period of indenture expired were still being assigned land for themselves, as were the white indentured servants.
Franklin, “From Slavery to Freedom,” p. 71-72.

c. There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
Helen Keller




3. The Left puts the term 'slave' to their use by implying that it has just one immutable meaning, and applies it to the situation that black folks found themselves in under the tender mercies of the rules of the South, of Simon Legree….the Democrat Party.
It doesn't: 'slavery' and 'slave' has different meanings at different times and in different geographies.

The only way slavery in the United States fits into the picture above is via the African Slave Trade and/or the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Neither of these species is related to the Bible.

a. " Africans played a direct role in the slave trade, selling their captives or prisoners of war to European buyers.[19] The prisoners and captives who were sold were usually from neighbouring or enemy ethnic groups. These captive slaves were considered "other", not part of the people of the ethnic group or "tribe"; African kings held no particular loyalty to them. Sometimes criminals would be sold so that they could no longer commit crimes in that area. Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans." Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia


Not only is the above not endorsed by the Bible…..but it is expressly forbidden.

I'll prove that in a moment.

As usual....Democrats want to make Whites the only party involved in slavery. This may be mostly true in America, because mostly white Democrats had slaves over 150 years ago.
Strange thing is, Islam still to this day continues the practice.
Who in America supports Islam?
Democrats of course.
But because they're guilty of this sin, they have a choice of either owing up to it, or projecting this sin upon those they hate.
Democrat usually do the latter.

Name the Democrats who support slavery.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

The Democrats of the 19th century have nothing to do with the Democratic Party of today.

Tell that to the baby in its mother's womb that you deny personhood to.

WTF? Why didn't I guess that your nuttiness indicators were eventually going to come out as anti-abortion lunacy?

 

[ding]

It's never about what a religious book says; it's always about what people say the book says.

No. It's never about what you say it says.

It has to be. If it wasn't, then why are there dozens and dozens of Christian denominations/sects every one of whom disagrees in one way or another what the Bible really says and means?

Nice try. All religions are more similar than dissimilar. Try again to confirm your bias in some other illogical yet amusing fashion.

 

[ding]

As usual....Democrats want to make Whites the only party involved in slavery. This may be mostly true in America, because mostly white Democrats had slaves over 150 years ago.
Strange thing is, Islam still to this day continues the practice.
Who in America supports Islam?
Democrats of course.
But because they're guilty of this sin, they have a choice of either owing up to it, or projecting this sin upon those they hate.
Democrat usually do the latter.

Name the Democrats who support slavery.

Very few people today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. That's because by the 1820's, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson's party, the Democratic Party, which was founded in 1792, had become the majority party in Congress. With this new party a change in congressional policy on slavery emerged. The 1789 law that prohibited slavery in federal territory was reversed when the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise in 1820. Several States were subsequently admitted as slave States. Slavery was being officially promoted by congressional policy by a Democratically controlled Congress.

Missouri Compromise - Wikipedia

16th United States Congress - Wikipedia


The Democratic party policy of promoting slavery ignored the principles in the founding document.

"The first step of the slaveholder to justify by argument the peculiar institutions [of slavery] is to deny the self-evident truths of the Declaration of Independence. He denies that all men are created equal. He denies that they have inalienable rights." President John Quincy Adams, The Hingham Patriot, June 29, 1839

In 1850 the Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or pay huge fines. The Fugitive Slave Law made anti-slavery citizens in the North and their institutions responsible for enforcing slavery. The Fugitive Slave Law was sanctioned kidnapping. The Fugitive Slave Law was disastrous for blacks in the North. The Law allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery. 20,000 blacks from the North left the United States and fled to Canada. The Underground Railroad reached its peak of activity as a result of the Fugitive Slave Law.

Fugitive Slave Act - 1850

Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 - Wikipedia

Fugitive Slave Act

31st United States Congress - Wikipedia In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery, the Kansas-Nebraska act. Even though slavery was expanded into federal territories in 1820 by the Democratically controlled Congress, a ban on slavery was retained in the Kansas Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats vastly expanded the national area where slavery was permitted as the Kansas and Nebraska territories comprised parts of Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, and Idaho. The Democrats were pushing slavery westward across the nation.

The History Place - Abraham Lincoln: Kansas-Nebraska Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act

The Democrats of the 19th century have nothing to do with the Democratic Party of today.

Tell that to the baby in its mother's womb that you deny personhood to.

WTF? Why didn't I guess that your nuttiness indicators were eventually going to come out as anti-abortion lunacy?

My point was that the same principles that made Republicans fight to end slavery are the same principles why we fight abortion.

So your little claim that Democrats would have been Republicans is BS. Democrats are two faced.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. …what we call 'slavery' today includes a state of permanent of bondage, which extends to the children of slaves.


"If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything."
Exodus 21:2


So….if the Bible is your excuse for the imposition of slavery….the argument fails at the briefest perusal of the text.


But….how about simply defining black slaves as 'foreign'?

"While foreign slaves could be made slaves for life,…"


The treatment of blacks in the South doesn't seem to have conformed to this:

"….the laws regarding the general treatment of slaves applied to them as well (Lev 24:22, Num 15:15-16). The law made it clear that foreigners were not inferiors who could be mistreated (Ex 23:9); instead they were to be loved just as fellow Israelites were (Lev 19:33-34). " Slavery in the OT


If the Bible is used as the excuse used for slavery, then all of the restrictions need be followed.
They weren't.
It isn't.

 

[RodISHI]

To simple for the darkened to get a Slave is to MAKE YOU מַ דּ וּ עַ

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Marxism is a form of slavery.
In Marxist economics the citizens are forced to work to support the ruling elite government leaders.
They even have to build walls around Marxist countries to prevent their slaves from escaping.

The 1950s called. They want their paranoia back.

No, thank you for taking us back to the 1950s

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. The Bible, in fact, cuts the heart out of the slave trade by forbidding the method by which said condition, slavery, is created.

The African Slave Trade, the Atlantic Slave trade, the main source of slaves in America, was precluded by the Bible.


"Most of the Africans who were enslaved were captured in battles or were kidnapped, …"
The capture and sale of enslaved Africans - International Slavery Museum, Liverpool museums


But....no slavery such as the transatlantic slave industry could exist under the restrictions described by the Bible......
" "Kidnappers must be put to death, whether they are caught in possession of their victims or have already sold them as slaves."
Exodus 21:16


Doesn't seem to be much quibble in that proscription.

 

[rightwinger]

You know how RW'ers love to refer to Republicans who don't conform to the conservative ideology as RINO's, Republicans in name only?

What makes Trump a Republican?

 

[rightwinger]

God punished the Egyptians because they wouldn't free the people of Israel from slavery
Then Moses marched the slaves through the desert to freedom

After all this.......thou shall not have slaves never made it into the Ten Commandments

 

[irosie91]

It's only because Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The characterization as "party of slavery" for demos is idiotic

You can't be serious.

Or....this ignorant.


Do you have a library card???

from the age of six------when my town library first issued
them to children-------making me ELIGIBLE to get "children's books"-----by the time I was 10---my mom wrote a letter requesting that I be allowed to take "adult books"-----the rare
permission was granted so that I could graduate from
"BAMBI"

Perhaps you'd best go back and revisit that library.

Your understanding of political history is sorely lacking.

"You Can Never Go HOME AGAIN" Thomas Wolfe

Does that refer to your relationship with the library?

no---that describes the kinds of books unavailable to ten
year old kids in my town library

 

[irosie91]

God punished the Egyptians because they wouldn't free the people of Israel from slavery
Then Moses marched the slaves through the desert to freedom

After all this.......thou shall not have slaves never made it into the Ten Commandments

Actually it did make it into ORAL LAW <<< which is a translation from Torah b'al peh ((??)) or something like
that. Torah law absolutely disallows grabbing people on the highway and enslaving them which is the Islamic mode. The
rules are actually more like the indentured stuff that England used for debt and stuff like that. From where do you imagine England got it? Chattel slavery did not exist (unless people cheated) The really barbaric form of slavery in the
west---was the Greek and Roman forms which was EMULATED by the catholic church (actually perpetuated)