Should VA Secretary Eric Shinseki Be Fired/Resign?

[TooTall]

Embattled Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki said Friday he underestimated the depth of problems in the VA system and announced several fixes, including removal of senior leaders at the Phoenix VA hospital and elimination of performance awards for VA leaders in 2014.

Shinseki apologizes, orders VA fixes - CNN.com

I need the names of the senior leaders at the Phoenix VA that were removed.

You need nothing of the sort.

You want to know, look em up.

Blindboo stated that several senior leaders were removed and I asked her/him who they were. Since she posted the statement she probably knows who they were and shouldn't mind sharing.
I doubt that you know anything and my query was not directed to you.

 

[Little-Acorn]

What's happening to the Republican party, all these posts and not one mention that the VA medical care is socialism, and we all know that socialism leads to communism.

No one has mentioned that the grass on the White House law is green either.

Some things are so obvious that there's no point in even pointing them out.

 

[Little-Acorn]

 

[The Rabbi]

What's happening to the Republican party, all these posts and not one mention that the VA medical care is socialism, and we all know that socialism leads to communism.

Actually it leads to misery and death. Which is what happened here.

 

[Kondor3]

Shinseki is history...

Obama accepts veterans affairs chief resignation with 'regret'

BY DAVID LAWDER AND MARK FELSENTHAL
WASHINGTON Fri May 30, 2014 6:25pm EDT

Obama accepts veterans affairs chief resignation with 'regret' | Reuters

(Reuters) - U.S. Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki resigned on Friday after a political firestorm over widespread delays in veterans' medical care, leaving President Barack Obama with a freer hand to address systemic problems bedeviling the agency.

Obama announced that he accepted Shinseki's resignation "with considerable regret," after the two met on Friday to review initial findings of an internal audit of scheduling abuses at VA facilities across the country.

The audit found that patient appointment wait times had been misrepresented at least once at over 60 percent of the 216 VA sites surveyed. It also said, with growing demand for services, a 14-day goal for medical appointments instituted under Shinseki was "simply not attainable" for the VA and should be scrapped.

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[Rozman]

I think the lefties want to use the same play from their playbook....
Don't hold anyone accountable....
And blame it all on Bush...

 

[The T]

What's happening to the Republican party, all these posts and not one mention that the VA medical care is socialism, and we all know that socialism leads to communism.

No one has mentioned that the grass on the White House law is green either.

Some things are so obvious that there's no point in even pointing them out.

Except to the perpetually stupid that can't see a tree through a forest.

Common sense, morality are becoming rare commodities these days.

 

[FA_Q2]

Edgetho, son, look in my eyes.

You are lying. At the height of the surge, there were 400,000 soldiers and mercenaries putting down the bad guys. Just like Shinseki said four years earlier would be required.

You neo-cons are through: no more overseas interventionism.

And we will, sooner or later, put the senior neo-cons in the The Hague.

Foregone conclusion.

Ah, Jake the king of the unsubstantiated statement. he brings links and 'evidence.' How dare he, the liar. He should know that all you need to do is look into Jake's eyes and allow him to replace your brain. So much easier....


You might be correct but you actually have to back your shit up. Until then, your statements are not worth squat.

 

[FA_Q2]

Is responsibility really this hard to understand. He heads the system and has allowed this to go on. It is irrelevent when the problems started. It is irrelevbent who else might have been or is a part of this. It is even irrelevent if he knew about it or how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. The fact is that this shit storm broke out on his watch and that means he is accountable for it. Period. That is what they are there for or do you all think that he is paid six figures to look pretty and issue the occasional statement.


HE allowed this to go on and now he is gone because of it. Hopefully the replacement get it and fixes the issues. Unlikely but hopefully.

 

[FA_Q2]

He resigned today!

What??? A democrat laid down and took it up the tailpipe from the GOP? The democrats failed to take the situation and turn it around on the GOP? The democrats made a decision that makes themselves look like the weaker/unelectable party?

Wake me up when you've got REAL news.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

Veterans can rest easy now! The decades-long maltreatment and nonchalance towards these men and women used by industry as tools is now COMPLETELY FIXED now that the general has resigned. It was all his fault. 100%. It just started since the Obama Administration.

Being that you are the ONLY one to claim something so ******* asinine this must be a.....

 

[Flopper]

Is responsibility really this hard to understand. He heads the system and has allowed this to go on. It is irrelevent when the problems started. It is irrelevbent who else might have been or is a part of this. It is even irrelevent if he knew about it or how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. The fact is that this shit storm broke out on his watch and that means he is accountable for it. Period. That is what they are there for or do you all think that he is paid six figures to look pretty and issue the occasional statement.


HE allowed this to go on and now he is gone because of it. Hopefully the replacement get it and fixes the issues. Unlikely but hopefully.

Unfortunately, his departure will do little to fix the broader problems in the massive VA health care system—and may even set the leaderless agency back as it waits for a new secretary to be appointed and confirmed which will probably be an extended political sideshow.

The VA is the nations largest healthcare provider, the only true socialized medicine in the US, something most republicans and some democrats would like to ignore.

The root causes of the problems are insufficient resources where they are needed, poor organization, and obsolete technologies. Many of the VA resources are not located where the clients are. There are probably funding problems but there are so many organization problem, it would be difficult to determine what the budget should really be. The 23 regions the VA is divided into lack both leadership and staff. The result is the hospitals run as carefully guarded fiefdoms. Lastly the IT system needs to be totally replaced. It's a 20 year old DOS based system that predates Windows. It's not just obsolete. It's an antique that provides essential no usefully management reporting. In short, the VA needs to be overhauled. Changing the secretary is not going to do this. It's going to take a lot more and I doubt congress is ready to tackle the problem.

Shinseki resigns: Here?s how to fix the VA.
Annual Performance Reports - Veterans Benefits Administration Reports

 

[whitehall]

The left wing can't make the argument that the VA suffered from a lack of funding. The government awarded tens of millions in bonuses to VA administrators to create secret death lists to save money. Shinseki should be indicted for negligent homicide.

 

[FA_Q2]

Is responsibility really this hard to understand. He heads the system and has allowed this to go on. It is irrelevent when the problems started. It is irrelevbent who else might have been or is a part of this. It is even irrelevent if he knew about it or how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. The fact is that this shit storm broke out on his watch and that means he is accountable for it. Period. That is what they are there for or do you all think that he is paid six figures to look pretty and issue the occasional statement.


HE allowed this to go on and now he is gone because of it. Hopefully the replacement get it and fixes the issues. Unlikely but hopefully.

Unfortunately, his departure will do little to fix the broader problems in the massive VA health care system—and may even set the leaderless agency back as it waits for a new secretary to be appointed and confirmed which will probably be an extended political sideshow.

The VA is the nations largest healthcare provider, the only true socialized medicine in the US, something most republicans and some democrats would like to ignore.

The root causes of the problems are insufficient resources where they are needed, poor organization, and obsolete technologies. Many of the VA resources are not located where the clients are. There are probably funding problems but there are so many organization problem, it would be difficult to determine what the budget should really be. The 23 regions the VA is divided into lack both leadership and staff. The result is the hospitals run as carefully guarded fiefdoms. Lastly the IT system needs to be totally replaced. It's a 20 year old DOS based system that predates Windows. It's not just obsolete. It's an antique that provides essential no usefully management reporting. In short, the VA needs to be overhauled. Changing the secretary is not going to do this. It's going to take a lot more and I doubt congress is ready to tackle the problem.

Shinseki resigns: Here?s how to fix the VA.
Annual Performance Reports - Veterans Benefits Administration Reports

Changing the secretary is not the fix. It is a step in the fix. You remove the old one that failed and put another who should be empowered with the tools that they need to address the problems.
Look, its rather simple. you are in charge and you fail. Now you get fired.

 

[GWV5903]

The VA has been plagued w/problems for decades, which pre-dates even the Bush Administration

What would him being fired or having to resign accomplish?

Discuss...

So you think he should be what?

It's called accountability, try it, you will feel something new called responsibility...

 

[Gadawg73]

Now watch Republicans seize the opportunity politically and come up with a massive new spending bill to save the VA!!!
Bend over citizens.

 

[hadit]

Here's a chance to do the right thing. When more funding is demanded, simply ask where it should be cut from the rest of the budget.

 

[Meister]

Now watch Republicans seize the opportunity politically and come up with a massive new spending bill to save the VA!!!
Bend over citizens.

Probably right, then watch it pass the Senate and Obama will be wetting his pants to sign it.

 

[boedicca]

Given how many WWII veterans are dying now, the actual number of vets has fallen.

I checked the Living Vets stats and projections here:

Veteran Population - NATIONAL CENTER FOR VETERANS ANALYSIS AND STATISTICS

In September 2010, there were 23M living vets (I believe that is down by 25M since 2000). In September 2013, the number dropped to 22M. The projection for 2023 is 18.7M.

The funding for the VA has increased far higher than inflation and population ratios would justify - and they roll over unused surplus funding each year. Money is not the issue - it's culture and the inherent dysfunction of government bureaucracies.

 

[paulitician]

Nothing will bring these Vets back. They died slowly & painfully. Accountability is all the families have left.

 

[paulitician]

On the bright side, maybe this will force Americans to seriously reflect and reconsider supporting sending our Soldiers to get maimed and killed for Globalist Elite bastards. This is what Globalist Elite bastards think of our Soldiers...

"Military Men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger

That asshole will be speaking at Bilderberg. Nice guy, huh?