serious question on core Jewish belief

[Meriweather]

But the Jewish founding documents--your religion--requires exactly that. See the post directly above yours.

Your interpretation of ancient documents appears to be far from actual practice in most Jewish communities.

 

[irosie91]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

It's a very strange kind of missionary group whose bedrock tenet is segregation, remaining outside the rest of humanity, making it very difficult to convert, discouraging it, even, and keeping God's Word hidden from the Gentiles. The only reason we even have the Old Testament is because some Jews in Egypt translated it into Greek prior to, I think it was Ezekial--someone like that--reimposing the Torah's separateness. They forcibly broke up mixed marriages, and so on.

They did demand that Jewish men abandon foreign wives and the children from those unions after the Babylonian exile which probably cause the early diaspora.

Apparently, when the Jews returned to Jerusalem, now with the Persians providing the muscle, many of them remained in Babylon.

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

It's a very strange kind of missionary group whose bedrock tenet is segregation, remaining outside the rest of humanity, making it very difficult to convert, discouraging it, even, and keeping God's Word hidden from the Gentiles. The only reason we even have the Old Testament is because some Jews in Egypt translated it into Greek prior to, I think it was Ezekial--someone like that--reimposing the Torah's separateness. They forcibly broke up mixed marriages, and so on.

They did demand that Jewish men abandon foreign wives and the children from those unions after the Babylonian exile which probably cause the early diaspora.---

EZRA refused to accept marriage to non-jewish women in the diaspora------but conversion was ok.

"foreign" meant that they do the "foreign" stuff with the foreign religion.

No, it meant they were from outside the Judean tribe.

nope-----it meant unconverted. Ezra was very RESOLUTE on this point and did
alienate lots of people because of it. Interestingly there are religions that REQUIRE
absolute purity of line-----an example is ZOROASTRIANISM. Hinduism approaches
the idea especially for BRAHMANS-------mixed people are "casteless" aka outcastes

 

[surada]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

It's a very strange kind of missionary group whose bedrock tenet is segregation, remaining outside the rest of humanity, making it very difficult to convert, discouraging it, even, and keeping God's Word hidden from the Gentiles. The only reason we even have the Old Testament is because some Jews in Egypt translated it into Greek prior to, I think it was Ezekial--someone like that--reimposing the Torah's separateness. They forcibly broke up mixed marriages, and so on.

They did demand that Jewish men abandon foreign wives and the children from those unions after the Babylonian exile which probably cause the early diaspora.

Apparently, when the Jews returned to Jerusalem, now with the Persians providing the muscle, many of them remained in Babylon.

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

It's a very strange kind of missionary group whose bedrock tenet is segregation, remaining outside the rest of humanity, making it very difficult to convert, discouraging it, even, and keeping God's Word hidden from the Gentiles. The only reason we even have the Old Testament is because some Jews in Egypt translated it into Greek prior to, I think it was Ezekial--someone like that--reimposing the Torah's separateness. They forcibly broke up mixed marriages, and so on.

They did demand that Jewish men abandon foreign wives and the children from those unions after the Babylonian exile which probably cause the early diaspora.---

EZRA refused to accept marriage to non-jewish women in the diaspora------but conversion was ok.

"foreign" meant that they do the "foreign" stuff with the foreign religion.

No, it meant they were from outside the Judean tribe.

nope-----it meant unconverted. Ezra was very RESOLUTE on this point and did
alienate lots of people because of it. Interestingly there are religions that REQUIRE
absolute purity of line-----an example is ZOROASTRIANISM. Hinduism approaches
the idea especially for BRAHMANS-------mixed people are "casteless" aka outcastes

After the Jews’ return to Jerusalem at the end of the Babylonian Captivity, Ezra, one of the leaders of the people, was given some bad news: “The people of Israel, including the priests and the Levites, have not kept themselves separate from the neighboring peoples with their detestable practices, like those of the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians and Amorites. They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness” (Ezra 9:1–2).

These marriages with people of other nations that worshiped false gods were forbidden in the Law of Moses (Deuteronomy 7:3–4). Ezra’s heart was grieved. He tore his tunic and cloak, pulled hair from his head and beard, “and sat down appalled” (Ezra 9:3). Idolatry was one of the sins that had resulted in Judah’s being conquered by Babylon. Now, upon their return to the Promised Land, Judah was again toying with the same sin.

In Ezra 10:2–3, as Ezra was praying, a large group of Israelites came to him in repentance. They made a proposal to rectify the situation: “We have been unfaithful to our God by marrying foreign women from the peoples around us. But in spite of this, there is still hope for Israel. Now let us make a covenant before our God to send away all these women and their children, in accordance with the counsel of my lord and of those who fear the commands of our God. Let it be done according to the Law.” The purpose of this covenant would be to once again set apart the Jewish people as fully devoted to the Lord and remove all connections with those who worshiped other gods. The agreement required the men of Judah to divorce their pagan wives.

Ezra agreed that this covenant was the proper course of action. He commanded, “You have been unfaithful; you have married foreign women, adding to Israel’s guilt. Now honor the Lord, the God of your ancestors, and do his will. Separate yourselves from the peoples around you and from your foreign wives” (Ezra 10:10–11).

A full list of the families involved is found in Ezra 10. The entire process took about three months at the end of the year.

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Why did the Israelites have to abandon their foreign wives and children? | GotQuestions.org

Why did the Israelites have to abandon their foreign wives and children? Why were foreign wives and children such a big problem during the time of Ezra?

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[irosie91]

But the Jewish founding documents--your religion--requires exactly that. See the post directly above yours.

Your interpretation of ancient documents appears to be far from actual practice in most Jewish communities.

so true----it was the BABYLONIAN jews who actually came up with the vigorous rules
for bonafide CONVERSION------compulsive nuts that they were. As far as I know---
Ezra was born in Babylon and then returned to Jerusalem to tell the returnees WHAT
TO DO ------and how to do it-----he was actually a remarkable INNOVATOR AND FIXER UPPER

 

[HaShev]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

 

[ding]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

Wouldn't the answer depend upon what they were chosen for?

No. Chosen--for any reason--seems to me to preclude the claim of universalism. Jehovah is their God, not ours.

If you don't know what they were chosen for then you have no way of understanding anything.

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

You've been miseducated by anti-semitic leftists. Go learn something that isn't bigoted.

OK, then educate me. How is a belief in or support for white supremacy different from a belief in or support for chosen-people-ism?

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

Leaving aside the anthropomorphic quality of your example, my objection remains that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others cannot, by definition, be a universal God. He is not the same God for all people. He is, if I may coin a term, a "biversal" God. But since all humans share the same reality, such a God can't be real.

 

[ding]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

You've been miseducated by anti-semitic leftists. Go learn something that isn't bigoted.

OK, then educate me. How is a belief in or support for white supremacy different from a belief in or support for chosen-people-ism?

Because white supremacy is the belief of a superior race whereas chosenism isn't. Remember you have no idea what they were chose for, right? For all you know they were chosen for making really good bagels.

 

[ding]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

Leaving aside the anthropomorphic quality of your example, my objection remains that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others cannot, by definition, be a universal God. He is not the same God for all people. He is, if I may coin a term, a "biversal" God. But since all humans share the same reality, such a God can't be real.

Or it could be that your assumption that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others... is wrong.

 

[ding]

Does this make sense, that a universal God, creator of the universe, could consider his killers his favorites?

I guess that proves that Jesus was just a nobody then.

I'm guessing that won't be a problem for this guy.

 

[norwegen]

On one hand, Jews were to carry the oracle of God to be the light of the nations (Is 49:6). On the other hand, they appeared to the pagans a rather quaint lot in their worship of one god exclusively (or their professions of worshiping that one god), not to mention in their practice of circumcision, their abstinence from eating perfectly good foods, their refusal to commit to a full week of work, and their unwillingness to participate in outside festivals and observances. They even prohibited intermarriage.

Aside from the Decalogue, their law seemed contradictory and not really very inspired. No wonder it would cease.

And no wonder that the Christians would carry their mantle, and not only carry it but completely redefine it. The Christians, ultimately, would be the chosen, for the kingdom of God was given to them and not the Jews (Mt 21:43).

The primitive Christians - the Jewish converts of the first century, by and large - passed away, but Christianity continued to grow as a movement of non-Jewish converts. In the end, the chosen would not occupy any particular tract of land or embody any national tradition or pedigree. In the end, the chosen are simply those who want to be chosen.

That's the New Testament view, anyway.

 

[Street Juice]

But the Jewish founding documents--your religion--requires exactly that. See the post directly above yours.

Your interpretation of ancient documents appears to be far from actual practice in most Jewish communities.

It isn't my "interpretation."

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

As for actual practice, I'm sure that's true. To a point. There is, as far as I know, regarding the Bolshevik Holocaust, no Jewish equivalent in even the slightest degree to German acknowledgement and atonement for the Nazi Holocaust. Indeed, as I well know, merely pointing out that the Bolshevik Revolution was a Jewish movement will prompt a chorus of Jewish condemnation and cries of anti-Semitism and flat-out Holocaust denial.

 

[Street Juice]

But the Jewish founding documents--your religion--requires exactly that. See the post directly above yours.

Your interpretation of ancient documents appears to be far from actual practice in most Jewish communities.

so true----it was the BABYLONIAN jews who actually came up with the vigorous rules
for bonafide CONVERSION------compulsive nuts that they were. As far as I know---
Ezra was born in Babylon and then returned to Jerusalem to tell the returnees WHAT
TO DO ------and how to do it-----he was actually a remarkable INNOVATOR AND FIXER UPPER

And the Judean people wept when the terms of the Second Covenant were announced

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

But I like your avatar Yes, Google puts its thumb on the scale

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

Wouldn't the answer depend upon what they were chosen for?

No. Chosen--for any reason--seems to me to preclude the claim of universalism. Jehovah is their God, not ours.

If you don't know what they were chosen for then you have no way of understanding anything.

It doesn't matter what they were chosen for. It only matters that they were chosen because that's the fatal blow against the claim of a "universal God."

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

You've been miseducated by anti-semitic leftists. Go learn something that isn't bigoted.

OK, then educate me. How is a belief in or support for white supremacy different from a belief in or support for chosen-people-ism?

Because white supremacy is the belief of a superior race whereas chosenism isn't. Remember you have no idea what they were chose for, right? For all you know they were chosen for making really good bagels.

White supremacy, if it exists at all, is a belief in white separatism. To be chosen by the Judean God means nothing else but that: be ye separate.

 

[Street Juice]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

Leaving aside the anthropomorphic quality of your example, my objection remains that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others cannot, by definition, be a universal God. He is not the same God for all people. He is, if I may coin a term, a "biversal" God. But since all humans share the same reality, such a God can't be real.

Or it could be that your assumption that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others... is wrong.

View attachment 498362

That was the formulation as presented by one of your cohorts on this thread, to which I was responding. I don't, in fact, believe that it has any basis in reality.

 

[HaShev]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

The term "Chosen" is being defined by your selective use and subjective mind, but is it the context of the meaning in the Biblical sense?

Chosen to keep the laws and instructions, reflect and manifest his Essence and memory for it's time and place to be revealed.

It would be like you having a simple project with simple directions instruction panthlet, but the person you hire to put it together chucks the instructions, writes his own panthlet that says he the worker no longer has to obey the rules of wearing safety goggles and gloves that the original panthlet warned. Then they have the nerve to complain to you the boss (who knows the outcome of not following safety measures), when the rule breaker becomes blind and has his fingertips amputated for not heeding the warning and instructions. Would you not designate someone to supervise and instruct how to follow the shop rules for sake of safety not restriction or punishment.
CHOSEN workers (servants not served) to do your good deeds, preferebly ones who obey and trusts the instructions?

Leaving aside the anthropomorphic quality of your example, my objection remains that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others cannot, by definition, be a universal God. He is not the same God for all people. He is, if I may coin a term, a "biversal" God. But since all humans share the same reality, such a God can't be real.

Or it could be that your assumption that such a God, who has an "owner-supervisor" relationship with some humans and an "owner-supervised" relationship with the others... is wrong.

View attachment 498362

That was the formulation as presented by one of your cohorts on this thread, to which I was responding. I don't, in fact, believe that it has any basis in reality.

That's because you also subjectively and selectively define the word God as you do the word Chosen.
The Jewish tradition is that G-d is non anthropromorphic, our beliefs are that The Hebrew God is an Essence and not a man nor figure or form.
Sources:
Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10

God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)

The Gemarah (Baba Batra 75) Tells us Jerusalem is named after G0D and is the place commemorating his name(description)& essence.

In Sefer D’varim (12:5, 11, 14, 18, 21; 14:23,24, 25; 15:20; 16:2, 6, 7, 11, 15, 16; 17:8, 10; 18:6; 26:2; 31:11).the place that I will choose to place My Name(the messenger of God shares this name and reflects this Essence). That is referring to YeruShalem because Sifri identifies the place which Hashem will choose (12:18) as “Yerushalayim”.
Shalem means completeness/wholeness thus describing the Essence to be all we could and should be aka evolve/progress.

If you don't believe this, then why is Shalem the key symbol on your dollar bill and premise of the early colonies to become complete and whole? (Shalem)

 

[ding]

"We’ve been seeing that term “particularism” quite often this month. At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people." -Mosaic Magazine

Q1 - How could a universal God have a chosen people? If God has a chosen people, He isn't universal. If universal, can't have a chosen people because He stands in a different relationship to some, i.e., is a different kind of God.

Q2 - How is chosen-people-ism different from white supremacy?

Wouldn't the answer depend upon what they were chosen for?

No. Chosen--for any reason--seems to me to preclude the claim of universalism. Jehovah is their God, not ours.

If you don't know what they were chosen for then you have no way of understanding anything.

It doesn't matter what they were chosen for. It only matters that they were chosen because that's the fatal blow against the claim of a "universal God."

Of course it does. If you don't know what they were chosen for then you can't make any comparison to their chosenness. You literally tried to make a comparison to white supremacists like their chosenness means they are supreme. Supreme at what?