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Unfornunately, I've learned a little bit of your perferred tactics.
Didn't you start out here shining Shog on?
But apparently not my preference for correct spelling.
Yeah, but that was before I actually got interested in debating on the boards. cuckoo. I agree with Shog, I just laugh at his "passion" sometimes.
The Passion of Anti-Christ
PORTLAND, Ore. - The exclusion of the Pledge of Allegiance from a southwest Portland elementary school's ceremony has proved upsetting for a local mom.
Departing fifth-graders at Capitol Hill Elementary usually open their promotion ceremony with the Pledge of Allegiance but not this year.
KATU tried repeatedly to talk with Principal Pam Wilson but got no results. However, in an e-mail response to Reese's questions, she explained the pledge was removed "out of respect for the diversity of religious faiths."
Local mom concerned after school drops the Pledge of Allegiance | KATU.com - Portland, Oregon | News
I didnt know the Pledge of Allegiance was a pledge to ANY religion?
It is not idolatry. Nobody pledges allegience to the flag and thinks the flag itself is a god. Though of course by leaving in the "under God" you can make that perfectly clear....
Honestly, I didn't have a clue who wrote the post. I don't pay that much attention, unless something jumps out at me.
I know there are Jehovah's witnesses who won't say the pledge, and others. So what? I never said that children should be forced to say the pledge. But if you're going to put kids in a federally funded school, I think one of the things they should be exposed to is the pledge of allegience.
You're an anti-American idiot pig.
You can argue all day that anything kids are taught about anything is "indoctrination" but the fact of the matter is, if they're living in the US and attending FEDERALLY FUNDED SCHOOLS they should be EXPOSED to a few things which might actually make them proud, and which establish a standard for pride and behavior.
I agree that children should be taught a few things to be proud of...that would be covered in civics classes, which are being phased out for standardized testing curricula.
Why do you insist that I am anti-American? Just because I don't think people should blindly lockstep with our government? Have you seen what our government actually does?
I am proud to be American and ashamed of what we as a nation have done to innocent people. Like the Native American Indians. What will we teach our children about the genocide of these noble people in the name of empire expansion and capitalist gains? The same tired stories about how we helped them and how we were all friends on Thanksgiving? Nothing about the slaughter, the rape, the pillage, the forced concentration camps...I mean reservations.