Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

Trump wants to kill babies. You good with that.

/----/ Pure hyperbole, a straw man argument. But I sense your desperation to undermine Trump's base. It won't work.

For those interested in what really happened, EasilyfooledByEveryone excluded:
Former President Donald Trump declined to stake out a clear position on the future of abortion rights in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," but he repeatedly expressed interest in serving as a mediator between "both sides" to reach an agreement.

“I think both sides are going to like me. We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides — both sides, and this is a big statement — both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you’ll have an issue that we can put behind us."
 
cllblck.23.09.25
#11,221
We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said.

Philosopher Saint ding sez in post 02388 dvng.22.07.18 #2,388 That “A new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception.” which is science based, not religious based because conception produces a new DNA every time an egg becomes fertilized.

Hiding Saint Ding is right about that.do you agree eith Philosopher/Catholic Saint Ding on that?

nf23.09.25 #11,222
 
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cllblck.23.09.25
#11,221


Philosopher Saint ding sez in post 02388 dvng.22.07.18 #2,388 That “A new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception.” which is science based, not religious based because conception produces a new DNA every time an egg becomes fertilized.

Hiding Saint Ding is right about that.do you agree eith Philosopher/Catholic Saint Ding on that?

nf23.09.25 #11,222
/---/ Personally I do.
 
/----/ Pure hyperbole, a straw man argument. But I sense your desperation to undermine Trump's base. It won't work.

For those interested in what really happened, EasilyfooledByEveryone excluded:
Former President Donald Trump declined to stake out a clear position on the future of abortion rights in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," but he repeatedly expressed interest in serving as a mediator between "both sides" to reach an agreement.

“I think both sides are going to like me. We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides — both sides, and this is a big statement — both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you’ll have an issue that we can put behind us."
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/---/ Dumb meme. Your failed reply is laughable. "Women's autonomy" is not on the ballot anywhere. Women can choose not to have unprotected sex, use birth control, wait till marriage to have children, and to carry the baby to term, and give the child up for adoption. The woman can also travel to a state that allows baby massacres.
It's now a states rights issue.
 


Trump lied about Ralph Northam:
Trump was referring to controversial comments made in 2019 by then-Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam as he was discussing abortion legislation. Those comments were about resuscitating dying infants in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancies.
Northam, a physician, was asked about what happens when a woman who is going into labor seeks an abortion during the third trimester. He said such a procedure happens only in cases of nonviable pregnancies or when there are severe deformities. In that scenario, Northam said that "the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother." •••• As to whether he could manage such a grand bargain between anti-abortion rights groups and pro-abortion rights activists, Trump claimed "the most powerful people that are anti-abortion are okay with" not having a complete and total ban.​

cllblk.23.09.25
#11,225 to #11,224 to #11,221
"Women's autonomy" is not on the ballot anywhere.

We have had Kansas and Wisconsin . Ohio is on the way.


mvmvvth.23.07.26
#3
Be it Resolved by the People of the State of Ohio that Article I of the Ohio Constitution is amended to add the following Section:


Article I, Section 22. The Right to Reproductive Freedom with Protections for Health and Safety


A. Every individual has a right to make and carry out one’s own reproductive decisions, including but not limited to decisions oncontraception;
  1. fertility treatment;
  2. continuing one’s own pregnancy;
  3. miscarriage care;
  4. and abortion.
B. The State shall not, directly or indirectly, burden, penalize, prohibit, interfere with, or discriminate against either:
  1. An individual’s voluntary exercise of this right or
  2. A person or entity that assists an individual exercising this right, unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means to advance the individual’s health in accordance with widely accepted and evidence-based standards of care.
  3. However, abortion may be prohibited after fetal viability. But in no case may such an abortion be prohibited if in the professional judgment of the pregnant patient’s treating physician it is necessary to protect the pregnant patient’s life or health.
C. As used in this Section:

  1. “Fetal viability” means “the point in a pregnancy when, in the professional judgment of the pregnant patient’s treating physician, the fetus has a significant likelihood of survival outside the uterus with reasonable measures. This is determined on a case-by-case basis.”
  2. “State” includes any governmental entity and any political subdivision.

D. This Section is self-executing.
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Saint Cellblock “We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said.” cllblck.23.09.25 #11,221
Saint Ding: “A new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception. dvng.22.07.18 #2,388

I asked Saint Cellblock in post #11,222 if he agrees with Saint Ding in Post #2,388 Here is Saint Cellblock’s response.

cllblck.23.09.25 #11,223
Personally I do.

Saint Cellblock believes the sanctity of life begins at conception which means there are no weeks to be compromised with the pro/choice majority that DJT is attempting to sell.

It’s either murder or it is not murder - see Saint Nomadic #1 #4 below.




If Biden’s “pro-choice” is murder then Trump’s pro-compromise more than one second after conception is murder just the same.

NFBW #9,127 : Biden was not elected to enforce Vatican Law/Doctrine. As a Catholic he may believe that the sanctity of life begins at Conception, but he has no obligation or authority to be anything other than neutral on the matter when the sanctity of life begins. The Constitution upon which Biden took an oath to uphold says human life is protected from the moment of birth. That is consistent with Judaism and perhaps the first millennium of Catholicism. nf.23.06.08 #9,127 to mvdlap #132 & shvvtr #136
There are those who believe it is necessary to believe that the bloodied hand of God was the crucial tool holder on creating the foundation of our great nation when Thirteen Colonies United in the cause of individual liberty in 1776.

They are wrong and they are the greatest internal threat this nation has ever met. They are white Christian nationalists in the saving baby fetus cult.

This is who they are and what they are still trying to do in the name of Jesus. . . .
The U.S. Constitution offers many potential remedies, including a trump card. In Article II, Section 1, the Constitution explains: “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors.” In other words, just because Democrats and Deep State operatives were able to stuff the ballot boxes or rig the outcome with computer programs, state legislators have a winning strategy at their disposal. Most of the states that are most hotly contested have solidly Republican legislatures, including Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.
Electors will meet on December 14 this year. And on January 6, votes cast by those electors from the Electoral College will be counted in Congress. Typically, those functions are seen as a mere “formality,” as the outcome of the election is already known. However, this time, it may not be so simple. In fact, a vast coalition of organizations and prominent media personalities including The John Birch Society, Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagles, Fox News host Mark Levin, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, commentator David Horowitz, and many more are advocating for GOP legislatures to overturn the obvious vote fraud by sending pro-Trump electors. “””

rmbncts.23’09.28
#261
Trump wants to end the fight we have been at for 50 years...

Trump can’t end that which he regrets that he did. RvW was correct and settled law. He should never have kicked it back to the states.

Trump was the chosen one to lead the Saving Baby Fetus Cult who will never concede one week in the fight with liberals that had waged ever since Phyllis


nmdc.23.09.24
#1
It is either murder or it isn't.
nmdc.23.09.24
#1
Everyone has to answer that Q
nmdc.23.09.24
#4
MY Supreme Court consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

nf.23.09.25 #11,227
 
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Saint Cellblock “We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said.” cllblck.23.09.25 #11,221
Saint Ding: “A new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception. dvng.22.07.18 #2,388

I asked Saint Cellblock in post #11,222 if he agrees with Saint Ding in Post #2,388 Here is Saint Cellblock’s response.

cllblck.23.09.25 #11,223


Saint Cellblock believes the sanctity of life begins at conception which means there are no weeks to be compromised with the pro/choice majority that DJT is attempting to sell.

It’s either murder or it is not murder - see Saint Nomadic #1 #4 below.




If Biden’s “pro-choice” is murder then Trump’s pro-compromise more than one second after conception is murder just the same.

NFBW #9,127 : Biden was not elected to enforce Vatican Law/Doctrine. As a Catholic he may believe that the sanctity of life begins at Conception, but he has no obligation or authority to be anything other than neutral on the matter when the sanctity of life begins. The Constitution upon which Biden took an oath to uphold says human life is protected from the moment of birth. That is consistent with Judaism and perhaps the first millennium of Catholicism. nf.23.06.08 #9,127 to mvdlap #132 & shvvtr #136
There are those who believe it is necessary to believe that the bloodied hand of God was the crucial tool holder on creating the foundation of our great nation when Thirteen Colonies United in the cause of individual liberty in 1776.

They are wrong and they are the greatest internal threat this nation has ever met. They are white Christian nationalists in the saving baby fetus cult.

This is who they are and what they are still trying to do in the name of Jesus. . . .


rmbncts.23’09.28
#261


Trump can’t end that which he regrets that he did. RvW was correct and settled law. He should never have kicked it back to the states.

Trump was the chosen one to lead the Saving Baby Fetus Cult who will never concede one week in the fight with liberals that had waged ever since Phyllis


nmdc.23.09.24
#1

nmdc.23.09.24
#1

nmdc.23.09.24
#4


nf.23.09.25
/——-/ Lots of words but no substance. Simply put, abortion is murder.
 
frnklrsvlt.23.08.25
#1



This is incredibly disturbing stuff. Abortion being celebrated by various politicians and celebrities. It’s no longer people saying hey you know you might be in a very tough spot. You might want an abortion. No a number of politicians and celebrities are open about celebrating the killing of babies.

Tucker, the racist fascist Putin mouthpiece in America is now pissed off because voters in states want reproductive freedom in their states and don’t believe the Schlafly bullshit


1976: This period would represent a turning point in Republican politics. Republican political activists such as Phyllis Schlafly worked to bring together evangelicals and conservative Catholics by uniting them in concern about women’s changing place in society and how they would exercise new rights, such as abortion. Until then, legal abortion had been supported by many Republicans.“Schlafly and her supporters argue that 1960s liberalism celebrates the individual and promotes the rights of the individual at the expense of the family and at the expense of a kind of moral order,” the Harvard historian Jill Lepore told On the Media.A âfundamentalâ right: a timeline of US abortion rights since Roe v Wade pblshd moralxtianorder.21.12.01 para010
Abortion becomes a linchpin” for this argument, she added.
 
bsqbrmnc.23.06.25
#2
Democrats.

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nf.23.09.24
#11,175
“Schlafly and her supporters argue that 1960s liberalism celebrates the individual and promotes the rights of the individual at the expense of the family and at the expense of a kind of moral order,” the Harvard historian Jill Lepore told On the Media.

Forgive us Phylis for sticking up for the “individual” in the first nation on earth to declare the individual to be king of his own destiny in compliance with do no harm on his or her way.

I see Saint Basqueromance is a traitor to the individual for being seduced by the the racist and bigoted myth of the perfect white and saintly Christian-only family and preferably Schlafly’s Catholic saintly families, pedophile priests and all.

America’s rainbow coalition of Christians and non-Christian of every race, culture and sexually oriented individuals is made up of families who want an America that protects the individual from the kind of bigoted bullying tyranny of the white Christian mob that is epitomized by a woman hater like Phylis Schlafly who wrote books like the one above. It is no wonder White Saint Basqueromance likes a religious bigot’s book.
bsqbrmnc.23.06.25
#13
where in history are there contributions made by minorities? there are none!

Western Civilization is rooted in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and The United White States of America, and every place where the footprint of Christianity settled the world!

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America is the only country ever founded on an idea. The only country that is not founded on race or even common history. It’s founded on an idea and the idea is liberty

Liberty with absolute freedom of conscience which is absolute freedom from religious minded authoritarians such as fester in states like Oklahoma. See above
 
crlnnnrbr.23.09.26
#21
Another Atheist evangelist pissing on a thread

What makes you think I’m an atheist. What causes you to post irrational observations about others. I am rational theist in the company of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Thomas Paine, and Benjamin Franklin, and Ethan Allen and many more of the founding generation.

bvvgl.23.09.08 #10,779 And your choice of words makes you a POC

nf.23.09.08 #10,780 I am a rational theist. If Satan exists, he hates and fears rational human beings because he exists as an imaginary creature who exists only in irrational minds. If we all become rational, Satan and his eternal torture chamber realm can no longer exist.

This could be one of your “irrational” posts couldn’t it be Saint Beagle?

DARKNESS HAS COME upon the world. It is an ancient darkness and yet new in its manifesting. It is, at the time of this writing, permeating our media, our entertainments, our marketplaces, our schools, our corporations, our public squares, our governments, our culture, our lives. It is setting in motion the transformation of our society, the overturning of ancient foundations, and the destroying of age-old standards of morality, values, perception, and faith. It is an unrelenting darkness,​
Can somebody translate this gibberish into English please?
one that seeks not only to exist and grow but to exercise total dominion, to force all it touches into submission, to subjugate language, to alter perception, and to bend reality into its image. It is a darkness that requires every tongue to confess its name and every knee to bow down in its homage. As for those who would defy or resist its conquest, it seeks to assimilate and transform them or else destroy them, even to destroy their will to resist it. It is a totalitarian darkness. It cannot rest until all lights are extinguished.​
www.christianbook.com

The Josiah Manifesto will take you on a prophetic journey from a Caribbean Island to the Washington D.C. to the ancient Valley of Hinnom to the Supreme Court to a desert mountain to an ancient middle eastern temple to the gates of America to uncover an ancient puzzle of stunning mysteries that...​
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www.christianbook.com

But there is nothing much darker going on in America than white hillbilly Christian’s fake nationalism and the Saving Baby Fetus Cult that it thrives on.

nf.23.09.26 #11,234
 
" On Traitors To Principles Of Us Republic And 14th 9th 1st and 10th Amendments "

* Calling Bull Shit On A Dumbfounded Cracker *

/---/ Dumb meme. Your failed reply is laughable. "Women's autonomy" is not on the ballot anywhere. Women can choose not to have unprotected sex, use birth control, wait till marriage to have children, and to carry the baby to term, and give the child up for adoption. The woman can also travel to a state that allows baby massacres.
It's now a states rights issue.
The sanctimonious , sacrosanct , psychopath , wanna be dictator, anthropocentric egomaniacs of the abortion anti-choice trope are blubbering because 90% of INDIVIDUALS option not to carry trisomy offspring to term !

The abortion anti-choice trope does not make a distinction between " without cause " and " with cause " abortion , and fabricate lies that abortion on demand means women seek " without cause " abortion when they are in fact seeking " with cause " abortion , where " with cause " abortion is optioned due do developmental anomalies most often determined through ultrasound between 13 and 20 weeks of pregnancy .

YOU CARRY IT TO TERM !
YOU DELIVER IT !
YOU KEEP IT FOR LIFE !
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About 3% of all conceptions are associated with major congenital malformations, many of them are lethal developmental defect and genetic in origin or teratogenic (adverse effects of the envi- ronment during gametogenesis or early embryogenesis).
 
" Elective Abortion Is Not Murder "

* On Dumb Founded Simple Ton Words From The Arrogance Of Self Officiated Conceit By Damned Dirty Apes *

/——-/ Lots of words but no substance. Simply put, abortion is murder.
A state is comprised of citizens on whose behalf interests of a state lay .

A citizen and its constitutional protections are instantiated concurrently through live birth .

Us constitution stipulates , " When does a state interest begin ? " and not " When does life begin ? " .
 
" Elective Abortion Is Not Murder "

* On Dumb Founded Simple Ton Words From The Arrogance Of Self Officiated Conceit By Damned Dirty Apes *


A state is comprised of citizens on whose behalf interests of a state lay .

A citizen and its constitutional protections are instantiated concurrently through live birth .

Us constitution stipulates , " When does a state interest begin ? " and not " When does life begin ? " .
/——/ This guy f*Icked up and found out. Man charged with double murder for killing pregnant woman, police say
 
thssm.23.09.22
#11,148


I have never suggested that at all.

I’m saying they went against their conservative guiding principle to lean towards originalism when they cited abortions being banned in states when the 14th amendment was passed. They passed over English Common Law on abortion when the original Constitution was penned.

I can’t make you read this entire piece but I wish you would


When states moved to criminalize abortion beginning in the mid-19th century, it was based on the view, shared by the Supreme Court of that era, that a woman’s proper role was to bear and raise children, as well as racist fears that white Protestant women were flouting their maternal duties at a time when immigrant populations were expanding. This is hardly history that a Court concerned with the Fourteenth Amendment’s core commitments would defer to. Rather than grapple with it, Alito blithely dismisses it as irrelevant, allowingl the dead hand of an unjust past to trump the majestic language inscribed in the Constitution.​

Alito could have very easily cited the “historical practices and understandings” in 1780 were that abortion was not a crime prior to quickening which in modern language is viability. After viability abortion was a misdemeanor.

And so he could have come down on the side that it was not a state’s right to ban a medical procedure just because states did it before when women’s role in society was limited to the bedroom and the kitchen.

So no they did not make the Dobbs Decision based on their Catholic faith. But the six conservatives got their lifetime seats because Republican politicians are beholden to their white evangelical Christian base like Trump who promised to appoint pro-life justices to recruit the religious values voters. And he appointed three.

Wallace pressed the question again, asking "You just said you want the court to protect the Second Amendment, do you want to see the court overturn Roe v. Wade?"​
Trump replied: "Well, if we put another two or perhaps three justices on that's really what's going to be—that will happen.​

"That will happen automatically in my opinion because I am putting pro-life justices on the court. I will say this it will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination."​


nf.24.08.22 #11,149

I have never suggested that at all.

Actually, you have. Every time you mention their catholic faith when referring to their decision.

Your article is behind a pay wall.

However, as far as originalism goes, it referring to the text and intent of the document, what the justices did was consistent. The intent and the text say that the federal government has certain powers, everything else is left to the states and the people, which is exactly what dobbs did.
 
" Pools Of Shallow Intellect With Alternative Perspectives Not Available "

* Legal Semantics For Fools Without A Logical Clue *

As a zygote , an embryo , or a fetus is without constitutional protections , the zef is private property of the mother , by virtue for the element of self ownership and self determination in the principles of individualism .

Consequently , any perceived offenses against the fetus are in fact offenses against the self ownership and self determination of the mother , and penalties can be exacted in manners appropriate for the offense .

Notice that the " fetal protection laws " specifically exclude the death penalty as capital punishment , as by equitable doctrine , to be subject to the death penalty as capital punishment , in order to remove a wright to life of a perpetrator , a perpetrator must remove the wright to life of another .

The death penalty as capital punishment is specifically excluded as by seeking to enforce the penalty , the semantics of the legal jargon would be revealed as debase and not be found consistent with us constitution , based on a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen .

#AbortionChoiceRepulicans understand that #dobbs decision by #scotus is dumbfounded and sedition against us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th amendments , and against title 1 section 8 of us code , and that #dobbs decision by #scotus is supported by traitors to a credo in a motto of e pluribus unum for us republic , which expects independence as individualism , with equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .
 
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" Dobbs Dogma Of Disingenuous Deceit "

* Conclusions Beyond Those For The Mentally Deficient *

Actually, you have. Every time you mention their catholic faith when referring to their decision.
Your article is behind a pay wall.
However, as far as originalism goes, it referring to the text and intent of the document, what the justices did was consistent. The intent and the text say that the federal government has certain powers, everything else is left to the states and the people, which is exactly what dobbs did.
#dobbs decision by #scotus is sedition against us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th amendments , and #dobbs decision by #scotus is sedition against title 1 section 8 of us code .

The following statement , is a damned lie and an asinine statement , directly from alito opinion in dobbs .

" Although the Court acknowledged that States had a legitimate interest in protecting “potential life,” it found that this interest could not justify any restriction on pre-viability abortions.


* Principles of Individualism For Us Citizens Usurped By Red Herring Of Money Grubbers *

There is no money for lawyers , or charities , or political pundits , or fee press , for settled law on abortion .

The constitutional basis for #roevwade was not ever presented in #dobbs , rather the hubris for a wright to privacy was forwarded .

The alito opinion stating that " potential life " was not sufficiently explained by #Roe_v_Wade court is a dumbfounded , seditious , lie !

None should need to explain a " Logically , of course " deduction from us constitution to a supreme court justice !

The pro-choice leadership , the entirety of legal jurisprudence , political institutions and fee press are intellectual embarrassments !

Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade .
 
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