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Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

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I asked where I made an error. Point it out.

I explained the chain of reasoning. I understand you religious types don't go in much for "reasoning" so I hope you'll take a bit of time to try here.
Your error occurred when you assumed you knew what I believed.
 

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So you don’t know? Get your nose out of women’s uterus’s and you might realize the good things that just happened for our veterans because of Joe my sister and Democrats in Congress.
So no abortions then?
 

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Actuslly it’s based on lying about what scientists actually say.
Your attempt to minimize the consequences of abortion is dishonest and ghoulish.
“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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You know that how?

Maybe Cardinal Carminative saw your cycle of life chart where the fetus develops while floating in thin air ..

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The fetus is not associated with a woman carrying it and it just starts growing after fertilization with no acknowledgment of the moment of birth.
 

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Maybe Cardinal Carminative saw your cycle of life chart where the fetus develops while floating in thin air ..

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The fetus is not associated with a woman carrying it and it just starts growing after fertilization with no acknowledgment of the moment of birth.
Every embryology textbook teaches that new genetically distinct human beings come into existence after fertilization. It's just science.

It's convenient for you to dismiss the science because you believe if you deny they are human then it isn't immoral to kill them or dismiss their right to life. You want to play king. Women should acknowledge that they understand that getting an abortion is literally ending the life of a new, living, genetically distinct human being; one that has never existed before and will never exist again. Your minimizing the consequences of abortion does no one any favors. It's dishonest and ghoulish.

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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You know this how?
No one wants to prosecute any of these mis-led women for past or recent abortion's, and basically calling them murderers, only that they just stop the deplorable action and realize that they are actually ending their babies life in which if doing so or wanting to do so without a medical or without a damned good reasoning for it, uhhhh should come with stern consequences, but not with actual murder charges placed upon the woman who was undoubtedly duped or brainwashed over the year's gone by in order to do such a thing, and then somehow think it is right.
 

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CarsomyrPlusSix-#4,559 “The start of an organism's lifespan means that the organism is present”

NFBW2208100848-#4,561 That is not a scientific fact at all. The physical presence is there but there is no scientific evidence of human consciousness.

CarsomyrPlusSix-#4,569 “Which is not relevant when noting that the young Homo sapiens, the human being, is alive”

NFBW2208101646-#4,573 Human cultures and societies are very complex and made of a very broad and mixed diversity of individual human beings who have consciousness, free will and ability to do amazing human things that other animals in the animal kingdom cannot do.

ding-#4,574 “Who am I to believe that a new genetically distinct human being comes into existence after fertilization? A rational person.

NFBW: Why did you ding CarsomyrPlusSix ignore the context I presented on the question of when human life begins based upon the cultural and societal reality of what being human is?

Does the physical presence of living human matter, with a new unique individual DNA in a one-cell living organism, make it a sacred living “human being” in the cultural and societal sense mentioned above cause us to have no choice but to grant it the same right to life and protection as thise human beings that are born?

Or does the scientific biological fact that a one-cell being of the human species has no consciousness, free will or the ability to do anything mean it’s right to life is derived solely at the discretion of the woman who is sustaining its life? END2208102150
 
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NFBW2208100848-#4,561 That is not a scientific fact at all. The physical presence is there but there is no scientific evidence of human consciousness.
That's an arbitrary distinction. The existence of a new, living, genetically distinct human being isn't arbitrary. It's literally the point in time when it became alive and human.
 

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NFBW2208101646-#4,573 Human cultures and societies are very complex and made of a very broad and mixed diversity of individual human beings who have consciousness, free will and ability to do amazing human things that other animals in the animal kingdom cannot do.
And has nothing whatsoever to do with when a new, genetically distinct human being becomes alive. Abortion is intended to kill that life.

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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NFBW: Why did you ignore the context I presented on the question of when human life begins based upon the cultural and societal reality of what being human is?
Because... Every embryology textbook teaches that new genetically distinct human beings come into existence after fertilization. It's just science.

It's convenient for you to dismiss the science because you believe if you deny they are human then it isn't immoral to kill them or dismiss their right to life. You want to play king. Women should acknowledge that they understand that getting an abortion is literally ending the life of a new, living, genetically distinct human being; one that has never existed before and will never exist again. Your minimizing the consequences of abortion does no one any favors. It's dishonest and ghoulish.

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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Does the physical presence of living human matter, with a new unique individual DNA in a one-cell living organism, make it a sacred living “human being” in the cultural and societal sense mentioned above deserve the same right to life and protection as thise human beings that are born?
If you admit that after fertilization a new, genetically distinct human being has come into existence and is alive, we can discuss that.

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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Or dies the scientific biological fact that a one-cell being of the human species has no consciousness, free will or the ability to do anything mean it’s right to life is derived solely at the discretion of the woman who is sustaining its life?
If you admit that after fertilization a new, genetically distinct human being has come into existence and is alive, we can discuss that.

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. the first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization
 

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NFBW: Ending a life of a human being is murder. END2208102158
Which is apparently the only reason you deny that after fertilization a new, genetically distinct human has come alive. Abortion is intended to kill that life.
 

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