Roe v. Wade 1973 Rethought: is it More Humane to Terminate?

Is more humane to terminate a life if you know that the quality of life will be one of horrible circumstance? Would you want a person to live on this earth under constant health care unable to brush their own teeth, wallowing in their own feces? Would not the more logical and loving thing to do is to terminate that life?
Attitudes to disability and termination | Topics, Antenatal Screening, Pregnancy & children, People's Experiences | healthtalk.org

The relevant question is, "Would killing such a being be a violation of their natural law rights", and I believe it would. We did not create them, we are in no position to judge the validity of their existence.

Anyone here familiar with "The Hermit of Gully Lake"? This guy lived alone in the woods for like 60 years, and near the end, the town started applying pressure for him to see doctors and move into the town where he could be taken care of. He wanted no part of it, but they kept pushing "for his own good". The poor fella ran off and died in the snow.

You don't get to violate people's inherent rights and freedoms, however good your intentions are. That's the one thing both right and left need to understand. Whether you want to feed the poor, or protect the nation, you have no right to condone stealing other people's wealth by violent coercion (i.e. taxes), or support any law that one man makes for another, outside the scope of natural law. I know it sucks not to be able to control the world, but that's your lot as a human being. We've got accept it, and start behaving with the moral responsibly of mature individuals.
 
Is more humane to terminate a life if you know that the quality of life will be one of horrible circumstance? Would you want a person to live on this earth under constant health care unable to brush their own teeth, wallowing in their own feces? Would not the more logical and loving thing to do is to terminate that life?
Attitudes to disability and termination | Topics, Antenatal Screening, Pregnancy & children, People's Experiences | healthtalk.org

The relevant question is, "Would killing such a being be a violation of their natural law rights", and I believe it would. We did not create them, we are in no position to judge the validity of their existence.

Anyone here familiar with "The Hermit of Gully Lake"? This guy lived alone in the woods for like 60 years, and near the end, the town started applying pressure for him to see doctors and move into the town where he could be taken care of. He wanted no part of it, but they kept pushing "for his own good". The poor fella ran off and died in the snow.

You don't get to violate people's inherent rights and freedoms, however good your intentions are. That's the one thing both right and left need to understand. Whether you want to feed the poor, or protect the nation, you have no right to condone stealing other people's wealth by violent coercion (i.e. taxes), or support any law that one man makes for another, outside the scope of natural law. I know it sucks not to be able to control the world, but that's your lot as a human being. We've got accept it, and start behaving with the moral responsibly of mature individuals.

For the secular humanists, mankind has no natural rights. He is not made from a divine Creator and, as such, has no real worth. No, mankind is just a glorified animal. And what do we do to animals, we lock them up in zoos, use them as beasts of burden, and kill and eat them.

I hear the fetus' of some countries are used to heat buildings.

Aborted fetuses from Canada burned at waste facility to power Oregon homes | Daily Mail Online

Nifty! Not only do we not have to pay money to raise them, but we can keep warm over their worthless carcass so it's a win/win.
 
To me the bottom line is that decent, moral conservatives generally do not have abortions.

sure they do. 91% of people who find out they are going to have a Down Syndrome baby abort. That includes conservatives, Christians and republicans.

You see, I am old enough to remember the time before we had birth control and abortion, and we used to have LONG buses to pick up the retards, who we didn't have to go to school with because they didn't mainstream them.

Then thankfully, we legalized abortion and birth control, and you didn't have these old Catholic bitches making retard kids in their 40's.

This is atleast the second time I've seen your obsession with 'bitches over 40 having retarded kids' and I've about had it with your ignorance.

For one......I am one of those bitches that had 2 kids at & over 40 and for your information, they are perfectly healthy. My husband and I fully realized how lucky we were.

Do you realize that many 'retarded' children, whether by Down Syndrome or other birth defects, are still healthy and contributing members to society? Do you realize that 75% of babies with Down Syndrome are born to mothers 35 & younger?
Here's a link Down Syndrome Risk Factors

most of the babies who have Down Syndrome (about 75%) are born to mothers who are 35 or younger.

By your thinking.....Stephen Hawking should have been aborted


Maybe next time you should get your facts straight before opening your mouth to share your narrow minded opinions that have no basis other than your personal bias. :fu:
 
Is more humane to terminate a life if you know that the quality of life will be one of horrible circumstance? Would you want a person to live on this earth under constant health care unable to brush their own teeth, wallowing in their own feces? Would not the more logical and loving thing to do is to terminate that life?
Attitudes to disability and termination | Topics, Antenatal Screening, Pregnancy & children, People's Experiences | healthtalk.org
A Catholic family I know well had an autistic child 20+ years ago. That child has profoundly affected everyone in that family and not for the better. They love and do their best for that child but their other child suffers every day having lost his childhood and his future as he will be burdened with the care and guilt once the parents are gone. The autistic child is usually frustrated and angry.

Much as I don't like abortion, I think this autistic child being born was a tragedy for all concerned and should have been prevented.
 
Is more humane to terminate a life if you know that the quality of life will be one of horrible circumstance? Would you want a person to live on this earth under constant health care unable to brush their own teeth, wallowing in their own feces? Would not the more logical and loving thing to do is to terminate that life?
Attitudes to disability and termination | Topics, Antenatal Screening, Pregnancy & children, People's Experiences | healthtalk.org
A Catholic family I know well had an autistic child 20+ years ago. That child has profoundly affected everyone in that family and not for the better. They love and do their best for that child but their other child suffers every day having lost his childhood and his future as he will be burdened with the care and guilt once the parents are gone. The autistic child is usually frustrated and angry.

Much as I don't like abortion, I think this autistic child being born was a tragedy for all concerned and should have been prevented.

Obviously I don't know the full extent of the childs autism or his impact on the family or anything beyond what you've shared......but it sounds as if atleast some of the problem is the parents handling of it. I can understand the autistic child would take up the majority of their time & attention, but they shouldn't have neglected the needs of the healthy sibling or expect him to take full responsibility after they're gone.
 
Is more humane to terminate a life if you know that the quality of life will be one of horrible circumstance? Would you want a person to live on this earth under constant health care unable to brush their own teeth, wallowing in their own feces? Would not the more logical and loving thing to do is to terminate that life?
Attitudes to disability and termination | Topics, Antenatal Screening, Pregnancy & children, People's Experiences | healthtalk.org
A Catholic family I know well had an autistic child 20+ years ago. That child has profoundly affected everyone in that family and not for the better. They love and do their best for that child but their other child suffers every day having lost his childhood and his future as he will be burdened with the care and guilt once the parents are gone. The autistic child is usually frustrated and angry.

Much as I don't like abortion, I think this autistic child being born was a tragedy for all concerned and should have been prevented.

Obviously I don't know the full extent of the childs autism or his impact on the family or anything beyond what you've shared......but it sounds as if atleast some of the problem is the parents handling of it. I can understand the autistic child would take up the majority of their time & attention, but they shouldn't have neglected the needs of the healthy sibling or expect him to take full responsibility after they're gone.
You may or may not be right but my point was disabled children affect many more people than just themselves. The lives of the other 3 family members would have been much more easier and more satisfying without an autistic child. Also, how many children were not born to that family because they needed to save so much of their time and money for the disabled child?
 
After going back and forth over the years, I have concluded tht yes, it is more humane to terminate the pregnancies of liberals. The fewer they are the better. It is certainly better to terminate the pregnancies of whichever minorities decided to be vermin in their lifetimes. Just think, if most black pregnancies result in abortion, how much better it would have been had Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin been aborted?

So i now support abortion rights.
 
I hear the fetus' of some countries are used to heat buildings.

Aborted fetuses from Canada burned at waste facility to power Oregon homes | Daily Mail Online

Nifty! Not only do we not have to pay money to raise them, but we can keep warm over their worthless carcass so it's a win/win.

Holy shit. that's brutal. The mind-controlled obfuscation of right and wrong continues unabated.
It should be of no surprise.

The body parts of Holocaust victims were also "recycled" for various uses.

You just have to love Progs in how they recycle cuz natural resources are limited, don't ya know.
 
To me the bottom line is that decent, moral conservatives generally do not have abortions.

Self absorbed leftists do.

As long as no taxes are used, we as a society do not share guilt.

I think all libturds should be sterilized, but as long as they can have abortions I won't stand in the way.

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And Republican politicians who knock up their girlfriends....never let their holier than thou position for everyone else effect their decsion!

That's why I said "generally do not" you blind dumbass dog.
 
Why not kill off all the "retards" who cannot care for themselves?

I'm all for executing Dims on welfare.

Who's with me?

I encourage their suicide, but we could cut off the free shit and let them work or starve.

I don't want to go to hell above all else, so having any blood on my hands is to be avoided at all cost.

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Where in the fuck can I read in the US Constitution that the Federal government has a proper place and sovereignty over a woman's vagina and uterus? SCOTUS in 1973 said they don't and none of your freaked out evangelical kooks sure as Hell don't! Take your partisan control dogma and shove it, and stop trying to enslave others for the purpose of lock-step conformance to your fucked-up, misguided control schemes!
 
To me the bottom line is that decent, moral conservatives generally do not have abortions.

sure they do. 91% of people who find out they are going to have a Down Syndrome baby abort. That includes conservatives, Christians and republicans.

You see, I am old enough to remember the time before we had birth control and abortion, and we used to have LONG buses to pick up the retards, who we didn't have to go to school with because they didn't mainstream them.

Then thankfully, we legalized abortion and birth control, and you didn't have these old Catholic bitches making retard kids in their 40's.

So what made you a fucking retard? You get spiked like a football in the delivery room?


It's too bad you weren't sucked out of the womb by Kermit Gosnell and allowed to suffocate in a closet before the rats ate you.


Piece of shit.


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Why is abortion bad but war good?

Eh conservatives?

Abortion is a war, it's a war on children so it's all good.
I hear the fetus' of some countries are used to heat buildings.

Aborted fetuses from Canada burned at waste facility to power Oregon homes | Daily Mail Online

Nifty! Not only do we not have to pay money to raise them, but we can keep warm over their worthless carcass so it's a win/win.

Holy shit. that's brutal. The mind-controlled obfuscation of right and wrong continues unabated.
It should be of no surprise.

The body parts of Holocaust victims were also "recycled" for various uses.

You just have to love Progs in how they recycle cuz natural resources are limited, don't ya know.

They're just awful huh?

"According to its website, it processes 550 tons per day......"

Lot of dead babies hmmmm?

Ore. Not

 
Geeesh. Hateful much?
To me the bottom line is that decent, moral conservatives generally do not have abortions.

sure they do. 91% of people who find out they are going to have a Down Syndrome baby abort. That includes conservatives, Christians and republicans.

You see, I am old enough to remember the time before we had birth control and abortion, and we used to have LONG buses to pick up the retards, who we didn't have to go to school with because they didn't mainstream them.

Then thankfully, we legalized abortion and birth control, and you didn't have these old Catholic bitches making retard kids in their 40's.
 
Why is abortion bad but war good?

Eh conservatives?

Abortion is a war, it's a war on children so it's all good.
I hear the fetus' of some countries are used to heat buildings.

Aborted fetuses from Canada burned at waste facility to power Oregon homes | Daily Mail Online

Nifty! Not only do we not have to pay money to raise them, but we can keep warm over their worthless carcass so it's a win/win.

Holy shit. that's brutal. The mind-controlled obfuscation of right and wrong continues unabated.
It should be of no surprise.

The body parts of Holocaust victims were also "recycled" for various uses.

You just have to love Progs in how they recycle cuz natural resources are limited, don't ya know.

They're just awful huh?

"According to its website, it processes 550 tons per day......"

Lot of dead babies hmmmm?

Ore. Not



Not to worry, I'm sure Planned Parenthood harvests their organs before using them like logs on a fire.
 

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