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Americans will do any kind of work for the right money. The problem is these people come here stopping that natural wage increase. Those of us on the right and in the middle understand this simple concept. That's why Trump is going to easily win reelection.

The Economist: Tougher Immigration Policy Seems to Raise Wages


Of course it doesn't. Our drastic fuel price decrease had little to do with fracking. In fact it had nothing to do with us becoming the worlds largest exporter in energy. :1041:
If that were a reason to vote nor not to vote for Rump them you shouldn't vote for him. Way too much hype on "The Wall" and zero on busting businesses that knowingly hire illegals. You can't stop the illegals from coming in and staying if they have jobs and housing. Take away their jobs and housing and they no longer have a reason to come here much less stay at such a high number.

So on that, I say, don't vote for Rump. Then again, not one single Candidate has addressed this problem so none of them gets my endorsement.
Like I said, Trump is doing more to tackle the illegal immigration problem than anybody in the last 20 years. But there is only so much he can do. He doesn't have a machine that tells him where all the illegals are working. Even if he did, all he could do is have ICE nab them, but then it's out of his hands. It's in some liberal judges court room and he has no control over that.
Oh please. Are you trying to imply that "liberal judges" don't send them home? Of course they do. The courts are so backed up with cases that it takes ages for an illegal to get before a judge, but that's on the Trump administration for not sending more judges to clear out the backlog.
LOL

They have years worth of back logs..............and requests for funding much more court room personnel and judges have been DENIED............

But the courts are used to FORCE RELEASE...................because you can't hold them past the 3 week mark..............and so on...................Then they don't SHOW UP FOR COURT.............and when caught by city or State police in places like California ...............They don't INFORM ICE because they are a SANCTUARY............

LOL


Go play poker with a dealer that has 3 extra decks of cards up his sleeves........you will WIN........TRUST ME
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I'm pretty sure this administration changed their rules and WERE able to keep them until their trial, but they didn't think ahead of where they were going to house all those people, or the fact that so many were coming with children, so it couldn't be a jail.
That's definitely not giving the situation adequate thought. Stupid rhetoric to make Wall people happy but in the end this administration has allowed exactly the same thing. Except some now I hear are wearing ankle bracelets.
Of course they knew it would cause a back log at the border........so they used military bases and tent cities.......then the courts ordered them to stop it.................via LEGAL challenges...........even when the challenges were overturned by higher courts..........the End the housing them in tents had to be enforced....

To the point that articles in Texas were bitching on how Border Patrol was releasing Bus loads of illegals in cities because OF COURT ORDERs.....................Which would include the FLORES ruling and 21 days.

It is no coincidence that the children were coming in MASS TO THE U.S.............they were using the Flores Loop hole to be released in mass into the United States.......
 

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I'm sure some do. But fake identity is a big business now, and some of them have it down to a science. Do employers do everything humanly possible to make sure an applicant is legal? I don't know. But as long as what they checked out is enough to cover their ass, that's all they're really concerned about.
The big thing now is bogus ID from Puerto Rico.
 

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I'm sure some do. But fake identity is a big business now, and some of them have it down to a science. Do employers do everything humanly possible to make sure an applicant is legal? I don't know. But as long as what they checked out is enough to cover their ass, that's all they're really concerned about.
The big thing now is bogus ID from Puerto Rico.
Well after the storm there..............FEMA and our gov't moved about a 3rd of the population from there to here........and paid for housing for up to a year............

A WHOLE BUNCH TO FLORIDA.............Imagine that.........a PURPLE STATE that the Dems want to go Blue.
 

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Again, stop doing the "Hey, look over there" routine and hit it where it really is. No jobs means no need for drivers licenses. No Housing means no need for Drivers Licenses. Do what is needed to setup up programs to deny the housing and jobs. And then those employers that continue to blatantly infract it lock their butts up and put them out of business. The legal employers will benefit.
You are NOT this thick, dude. Just not possible.
 

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All of which could be solved by kicking them out of the country, and preventing them coming here in the first place.

Your liberal friends here want to see you thrown in prison. If you highly suspect your maid is here illegally and not reporting her, then you sir are a criminal according to them.
Always the liberals' fault, eh? Well, the business owners who hire the illegals never seem to get arrested, do they? one link below. Even trump was hiring illegals and might still be doing it. Maybe he should have himself arrested to serve as an example. Illegal immigration is just something trump decided to run on same has his pretending he's a christian, reads the bible, etc.
Hundreds Of Employees Were Arrested In An ICE Raid. The Bosses Went Home Without A Charge.
Many times, employers DO check...and hire an illegal alien anyway. I worked with (at least) one...but he checked out. He had a CDL, a chauffeur's license, a school bus license, and had even worked for a school district! But he was an illegal alien from Guatemala.
They have been doing this for decades..........they are very very good at it now..........

They had a major raid to a slaughter house in Mississippi not too long ago...........the sub contractor who was in charge of E-VERIFY..............did a half assed job but did submit to the system...............it FAILED MISERABLY.....

The system wasn't designed to check the Fake ID. network.
E-Verify is a joke.
Is there some reason why we can't crush the Fake ID network?
It's illegal, too, right? I have NEVER heard it even mentioned.
You haven't looked then.............

Of course we could attack it.......and they have QUADROUPLED the Audits of Businesses under Trump...........but under the law they have to SCHEDULE the Audits.........giving time for Businesses to clean up their employment records................and all Business has to do is say WELL THEY HAD THE PROPER DOCUMENTS...

And even if caught.......the fines aren't that large...............

The IRS and Social Security Agencies have OPENLY admitted that these fake ID's exist by the millions......but they don't care.......because they pay taxes........and the fake SSN's can't get the retirement.........LOL

I've sown this information on threads over time many times.
I'm sure some do. But fake identity is a big business now, and some of them have it down to a science. Do employers do everything humanly possible to make sure an applicant is legal? I don't know. But as long as what they checked out is enough to cover their ass, that's all they're really concerned about.
The big thing now is bogus ID from Puerto Rico.
Since Puerto Ricans are US citizens, why would that be?
 

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If they have 500 employees and 10 illegals, you fine them the first time. (this isn't normally being done). If they get caught again, you fine them more. If they persist, I am sure that they would be willing to sell their business to someone that is willing to adhere to the law because that would be the next step. If the business is in such a dire strait as needing to cut costs by having to hire those 10 illegals, maybe it shouldn't be in business in the first place. I am sure that their competitors that do things legally would agree and would have places for those 490 workers if they are good workers. Welcome to Capitalism.
Yet again: what do you do when the illegal aliens check out? The employer does all the checks, but because the documents are real (they just don't belong to the dude being hired), they come back as legit.
 

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I'm sure some do. But fake identity is a big business now, and some of them have it down to a science. Do employers do everything humanly possible to make sure an applicant is legal? I don't know. But as long as what they checked out is enough to cover their ass, that's all they're really concerned about.
The big thing now is bogus ID from Puerto Rico.
Since Puerto Ricans are US citizens, why would that be?
Several reasons...
A Puerto Rican speaking only Spanish and heavily-accented English is nothing remarkable.
Puerto Rico is corrupt on the level of Tammany Hall, so bogus ID is very easy to get.
After the hurricane, much of PR was in chaos, with many people having no ID...so needing a "replacement" was quite common.
You also answered your own question: get a bogus PR identity, and you are a citizen!
 
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pulling in that illegal to run that backhoe or front end loader
You're uninformed. Most places REQUIRE a license to run that equipment or at the very least a trade school certificate.
Those are not the jobs the illegals are taking. They are taking the low and no skill job positions. Like fry cook and laborer
They have essentially destroyed the trades. 100% illegal alien construction crews are nothing remarkable here...and legal tradesmen cannot compete.
 

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Nope. Capitalism how it is now was not around. Whatever Amendment gives you the right to own property. Real life? I am a father of two kids. That’s as real as it gets. You got? Zero. Makes sense.
Not going to talk about family because it's against the rules, REPORTED.

You want to talk about issues, fine. You want to talk about family, I will report you. DONE.
I am talking about my family. You’ve reported me like 100x and nothing? Mods think you’re a loser. Plus you volunteered that you don’t have kids. Not my fault. You’re such a little tattle tale Leftist.
 

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You put an illegal on a big piece of machinery and an accident happens YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BUSINESS in the subsequent lawsuits that come from every direction including your insurance carrier. In many states there are only a handful of companies that offer workmens compensation. You have an illegal make a claim against you and you will be rejected by all of them.
You think they bother with things like workers' comp? :21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21:
 

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Because we are a capitalist country first and foremost and Sanders is a self described Socialist and contrary to his rhetoric there is nothing democratic about Socialism. Even mayor Pete and Bloomberg think Sanders is a whack job.
That's not compelling to me, sorry. These things are argued on data, not gut feelings and personal anecdotes, in a country of 300 million+.
You don't work in the business world, this is why your posts are crazy. If Bernie somehow wins the economy will tumble.
If Warren wins, much worse. Her promise is that her first day in the White House, she would sign an executive order to stop all fracking within the US. That means our fuel prices will eventually double, a lot of people out of work, and a recession on the horizon.
She won't win the nomination. She has become the fullback for Sanders. Attacking others so he looks better. Note how she rarely if ever attacks him.
I wonder if she's angling for the VP nomination.
 

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You might think so but that's actually not fact. I've been a truck driver for over 25 years. More and more foreigners are coming here to take these jobs because Americans don't want to live on the road. In our company, when we need more tractor-trailer drivers, we promote from within. One of our guys take a straight truck driver out on the road, trains him, and get him licensed after he has enough practice.

I know what these guys had to go through to pass the Class A test. I can assure you that without a doubt, these foreigners that are driving trucks did not have to pass that test. They couldn't even come close to passing it.

At least once a year or more, some foreigner would come running up to my truck, and beg me to back their trailer in for him or her. I could understand if they were new, and it was a tough dock to get into. That does take an experienced driver. But the docks I'm talking about, an American could back a trailer into it almost blindfolded. These people never backed up a trailer in their life yet alone pass the test.
I have seen people that I KNOW passed the class A road test who can't back up well. Hell, at least one state does not require an alley dock for a CDL test.
 

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My comment was on construction and not eighteen wheeler driving but I understand what you are saying but how many of them were issued a CDL and are illegally here?
I worked with a Guatemalan illegal alien who had a CDL, a chauffeur's license, and a school bus(!) license.
 

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The solution is not in our representatives hands, it's actually in ours. If we made the sacrifice to buy our own products, then that would help greatly. But since the 80's, the American consumer is obsessed with price. Quality doesn't matter anymore. Worrying about other Americans working doesn't matter anymore. It's all about how cheap I can get my products. No solidarity at all.
There is frequently no choice...ALL options are imported, there is no American product available at any price.
 

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You put an illegal on a big piece of machinery and an accident happens YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BUSINESS in the subsequent lawsuits that come from every direction including your insurance carrier. In many states there are only a handful of companies that offer workmens compensation. You have an illegal make a claim against you and you will be rejected by all of them.
You think they bother with things like workers' comp? :21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21::21:
You want to be a licensed contractor you have NO CHOICE. It is required by law.

Now if you're done passing out smileys and talking out of your ass are we done?
 

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Americans will do any kind of work for the right money. The problem is these people come here stopping that natural wage increase. Those of us on the right and in the middle understand this simple concept. That's why Trump is going to easily win reelection.
Actually, he won't because most people hate him. I don't like Commie Bernie, but I'll vote for him in November because I despise Trump so much.

Of course it doesn't. Our drastic fuel price decrease had little to do with fracking. In fact it had nothing to do with us becoming the worlds largest exporter in energy.
What drastic decrease? Unleaded where I'm at is $2.75 a gallon. Yeah, I think the worst it got was 4.10 a gallon.

If it's being 'exported', then we aren't using it.
Yeah, the price only dropped by a third.

Boy, if brains were gold, you couldn't buy penny candy!
 

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