My issue with both sides

That's exactly where I am too. This is all a self-inflicted wound, and I think it may be because we were TOO successful, our Constitution was TOO good. We became fat, lazy and shallow. We lowered our standards everywhere, and that goes for both ends of the political spectrum. We became a reality teevee country, shallow and celebrity-driven, the world's trailer park.

The ends of the spectrum can point at each other all they want, and they will. But the fault lies in the mirror, across the spectrum. We all just gave it away by lowering our standards.
OMG, listen to this steaming pile of self loathing crap!

‘Oh woe is me, it just isn’t fair that I’m so successful, boo freaking hoo’…. :laughing0301:

Hilarious.
 
What a retarded post.

Hard to believe. But an abject imbecile like you still manages to get dumber.

Where did I say anything about a conviction in any court?
Jesus dumbass. If no one is convicted for a crime… did a crime occur?
 
Jesus dumbass. If no one is convicted for a crime… did a crime occur?
Another remarkably retarded question from shittycroc.

Apparently, that babbling bubbling idiot doesn’t grasp that a crime occurs at the moment it is committed.

A lawful conviction comes later (if ever).

Since you still don’t get it (you retard), I will deign to give you a clear illustration. Say you get your hands on a gun and use it to scare some poor bastard on the street enough to compel him to turn over his wallet to you.

You just committed several crimes including armed robbery. But, you run away. If you’re ever caught by the police and prosecuted and tried and convicted of that crime, you will now be convicted of the crime you had already committed.

Blink if you understand b
 
Another remarkably retarded question from shittycroc.

Apparently, that babbling bubbling idiot doesn’t grasp that a crime occurs at the moment it is committed.

A lawful conviction comes later (if ever).

Since you still don’t get it (you retard), I will deign to give you a clear illustration. Say you get your hands on a gun and use it to scare some poor bastard on the street enough to compel him to turn over his wallet to you.

You just committed several crimes including armed robbery. But, you run away. If you’re ever caught by the police and prosecuted and tried and convicted of that crime, you will now be convicted of the crime you had already committed.

Blink if you understand b
Listen AssAgain, youre the idiots who chanted "lock her up". Did you "lock her up"? NO. Why? No crime.

Why havent any state or local politicians ben "locked up" for interference? No crime.

There is no crime being committed in sanctuary cities. Thus, no one is "locked up".

Your stupid armed robbery comment is stupid. Local and state officials arent running away... they just arent committing crimes. You just lie your ass off and call lawful actions illegal. You are being an AssAgain.
 
This is why you are obligated vote the best choice. Since 08' only Trump was a clear best choice 1000X the kids don't have a say. A non-vote is a communist vote.

 
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As an Independent, I try to move past the name calling, personal attacks and childish behavior I see both sides sling at each other and dig a little deeper into the pros and cons of each side. I won't bore you with the pros, so let's look at my biggest complaint with each side.

Democrats: Get off this sanctuary cities bandwagon. This lame attempt to override federal immigration laws is only dividing our nation and is just, plain illegal. The correct way to deal with this is to go through the legislative and/or judicial steps to change the law. - You don't ignore the law.

Republicans: Stop attacking our electoral system: Donald Trump's own hand-picked judges as well as others on the Federal bench found no evidence of election fraud. The same system that declared Biden the winner in 2020, also declared Trump the winner in 2024. - So, stop attacking.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :disbelief:
As an Indepenent you should look more for the facts. Nobody is trying to override federal immigration laws, and the nation is not divided because of immigration. You want the facts? Sanctuary cities were not a problem until Trump made them one because of his race-baiting. If Sanctuary cities were such a problem, then why:

“In fiscal year 2017, the last year of the Obama administration and the first of Trump’s, 303,916 migrants were arrested by the Border Patrol. This was the lowest level in more than three decades. The Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations had worked hard to tackle the problem of illegal migration through substantial increases in border security staffing, improvements in technology, innovations in strategy and improved security coordination and assistance to Mexico. Coupled with improved economic conditions in Mexico, these administrations were hugely successful in deterring and breaking the cycle of illegal crossing: Unlawful Mexican economic immigration, which had historically been the primary immigration enforcement issue at the border, dropped nearly 90 percent between 2000 and 2016.”
Alan Bersin, Nate Bruggeman, Ben Rohrbaugh, Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault. Politico, April 5, 2019 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/05/border-crisis-donald-trump-226573/

That's just one. At some point in time, there comes a realization that one thing is right and one thing is wrong. At that point, there really is no room for a middle ground. There have been plenty of times in our history where there have been, but this is not one of them. We either stop the threat of fascism coming from the right, or America as we know it is done. Once that is taken care of, then we can go back to trying to make both sides the same.
 
As an Independent, I try to move past the name calling, personal attacks and childish behavior I see both sides sling at each other and dig a little deeper into the pros and cons of each side. I won't bore you with the pros, so let's look at my biggest complaint with each side.

Democrats: Get off this sanctuary cities bandwagon. This lame attempt to override federal immigration laws is only dividing our nation and is just, plain illegal. The correct way to deal with this is to go through the legislative and/or judicial steps to change the law. - You don't ignore the law.

Republicans: Stop attacking our electoral system: Donald Trump's own hand-picked judges as well as others on the Federal bench found no evidence of election fraud. The same system that declared Biden the winner in 2020, also declared Trump the winn er in 2024. - So, stop attacking.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :disbelief:
That's not a fact, Jack. Cheating was rampant. They have proven it. e.g. dead people voting, videos of ballot stuffing. The 3am shutdowns where boxes of ballots were loaded into the voting machines, more votes than there were ballots sent out.

How about we close the cheating holes in the voting process, and remove all doubt. Trump is trying to, but Shummie wants the dead to continue to vote, illegals to vote, people to vote more than once, no proof of citizenship, no picture ID's. Don't you think that is a little odd?? Especially when over 80% of the Whites, Latinos, Blacks want it done. Jim Crow 2 my ass.

They all ignore the Law. It turns them into millionaires, with Pelosi wearing the crown.

There is no Independent, and there are no Republicans or Democrats. We have a new order in America. It is, America vs Global now. And the next "Democrat" in the WH will usher it in. 2030 is the goal. Hemisphere #1 is what they call us.

Look at what they have done to the countries in Europe. Europe gave up their sovereignty, and have been crushed by the Muslim diaspora, the lack of borders, the crime, and it is all intentional, and it is coming to a neighborhood near you. The globe is winning and 1/2 of this country is rooting for it.

Watch England fall. It is stunning...
 
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As an Independent, I try to move past the name calling, personal attacks and childish behavior I see both sides sling at each other and dig a little deeper into the pros and cons of each side. I won't bore you with the pros, so let's look at my biggest complaint with each side.

Democrats: Get off this sanctuary cities bandwagon. This lame attempt to override federal immigration laws is only dividing our nation and is just, plain illegal. The correct way to deal with this is to go through the legislative and/or judicial steps to change the law. - You don't ignore the law.

Republicans: Stop attacking our electoral system: Donald Trump's own hand-picked judges as well as others on the Federal bench found no evidence of election fraud. The same system that declared Biden the winner in 2020, also declared Trump the winner in 2024. - So, stop attacking.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :disbelief:
WHO is messing wit the thank you& the informative buttons. this is about the tenth time have pushed informative,
and got the thumbs down button.
 
Fortunately, I live a fruitful life ignoring these things. I believe when you ignore all of the ignorant social attention seekers, they have no power. Once that can be implemented, then we get back to regular, boring politics.
Then you must ignore yourself. Can you reply with more then one or two sentences that contain an actual thought?
 
As an Independent, I try to move past the name calling, personal attacks and childish behavior I see both sides sling at each other and dig a little deeper into the pros and cons of each side. I won't bore you with the pros, so let's look at my biggest complaint with each side.

Democrats: Get off this sanctuary cities bandwagon. This lame attempt to override federal immigration laws is only dividing our nation and is just, plain illegal. The correct way to deal with this is to go through the legislative and/or judicial steps to change the law. - You don't ignore the law.

Republicans: Stop attacking our electoral system: Donald Trump's own hand-picked judges as well as others on the Federal bench found no evidence of election fraud. The same system that declared Biden the winner in 2020, also declared Trump the winner in 2024. - So, stop attacking.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :disbelief:
My single biggest issue with both parties is SPENDING and DEBT.

Everything else pales next to our federal debt. Our debt is the single biggest existential threat to our country.

DEMOCRATS: Tax and Spend

REPUBLICANS: Borrow and Spend


Guess which method ends up with the biggest deficits.


Hint: Look what happened to the federal deficit the last three times the Republicans controlled Congress and the White House. Look what's happening right now.

It goes UP!

Every time.

Yet, somehow, the red morons actually bleev their party is the party of fiscal responsibility.

Nope.

Nope.


Nnnnnnnnnnnnope!
 
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