Remember when Biden swore he would not send tanks to the Ukraine cuz that would start WW3?

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Changed his mind on the subject, did he?

That's fine.

No problem.

Changing one's opinion on a given subject as conditions change to warrant it is a sign of objectivity and pragmatism.

Even your average Old Fart can manage that from time to time... :cool: ...more than the kiddies can, sometimes...,

MEH... Dog bites Man... not exactly "news"...
Tanks aren’t his to give away. Use his own money and buy them first
 
MacGregor says Ukraine has lost three time the number of men we lost in Vietnam. He also states the US has men on the ground in Ukraine.
Post in thread 'Best part of the Ukrainian Invasion...'

Thanks Ropey
At the 16 minute mark….Listening to him describe the situation in Ukraine is horrifying. He states 157,000 dead Ukrainians and 300,000 to 400,000 wounded. Hospitals overflowing.

He states Russia has 15k-20k dead and 40k wounded. He says it’s too late for Ukraine.
 
Here's what we've been sending over. Yeah, we have "advisors" on the ground. This arsenal doesn't work by itself.


United States security assistance committed to Ukraine includes:

  • Over 1,600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
  • Over 8,500 Javelin anti-armor systems;
  • Over 50,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
  • Over 700 Switchblade Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • 160 155mm Howitzers and up to 1,094,000 155mm artillery rounds;
  • Over 5,800 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
  • 10,200 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
  • 100,000 rounds of 125mm tank ammunition;
  • 45,000 152mm artillery rounds;
  • 20,000 122mm artillery rounds;
  • 50,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
  • 72 105mm Howitzers and 370,000 105mm artillery rounds;
  • 298 Tactical Vehicles to tow weapons;
  • 34 Tactical Vehicles to recover equipment;
  • 30 ammunition support vehicles;
  • 38 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems and ammunition;
  • 30 120mm mortar systems and approximately 166,000 120mm mortar rounds;
  • 10 82mm mortar systems;
  • 10 60mm mortar systems;
  • 2,590 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
  • 545,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition;
  • 120mm ammunition;
  • Ten Command Post vehicles;
  • One Patriot air defense battery and munitions;
  • Eight National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
  • Missiles for HAWK air defense systems;
  • RIM-7 missiles for air defense;
  • 12 Avenger air defense systems;
  • High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
  • Precision aerial munitions;
  • 4,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
  • 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
  • 31 Abrams tanks;
  • 45 T-72B tanks;
  • 109 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles;
  • Over 1,700 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
  • Over 100 light tactical vehicles;
  • 44 trucks and 88 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
  • 90 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • 300 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • 250 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
  • 580 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
  • Six armored utility trucks;
  • Mine clearing equipment and systems;
  • Over 13,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
  • Over 111,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
  • Over 75,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
  • Approximately 1,800 Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • Laser-guided rocket systems;
  • Puma Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • 15 Scan Eagle Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • Two radars for Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels;
  • Over 50 counter-artillery radars;
  • Four counter-mortar radars;
  • 20 multi-mission radars;
  • Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems and equipment;
  • Counter air defense capability;
  • Ten air surveillance radars;
  • Two harpoon coastal defense systems;
  • 58 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
  • M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
  • C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
  • Obstacle emplacement equipment;
  • Tactical secure communications systems;
  • Four satellite communications antennas;
  • SATCOM terminals and services;
  • Thousands of night vision devices, surveillance systems, thermal imagery systems, optics, and laser rangefinders;
  • Commercial satellite imagery services;
  • Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
  • Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
  • 100 armored medical treatment vehicles;
  • Over 350 generators;
  • Medical supplies to include first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
  • Electronic jamming equipment;
  • Field equipment, cold weather gear, and spare parts;
  • Funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment.
Hmm, I wonder who's operating all that gear, dead Ukies? Nah, they're sending it over for the US forces already on the ground.
 
For all the dreamers that think Ukraine/NATO will win. Go and search for Edgar Casey's predictions for Russia.
Edgar Casey?

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He is the Chief Executive of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of its Armed Forces. He needs no authority beyond such status.

That doesn’t mean he can give away tanks.

That’s congress.

If trump couldn’t just build a wall, neither can he just send tanks
 
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That doesn’t mean he can give away tanks.

That’s congress.

If trump couldn’t just build a wall, neither can he just send tanks
Then why isn't Congress stopping him?

I'll TELL you why.

Because most Congresscritters on BOTH sides of the aisle support the stopping of Russian aggression during its early stages - namely, in Ukraine.
 
Then why isn't Congress stopping him?

I'll TELL you why.

Because most Congresscritters on BOTH sides of the aisle support the stopping of Russian aggression during its early stages - namely, in Ukraine.
I agree!!! You tell us
 
HE...is a Russian asset. I was talking about the Russian troll poster above
OK......isn't it interesting though, the guy who headed the Trump/Russia gig turns out to be a Russian agent?
Our tax dollars at work.
American led coup? Wtf are you talking about?
Uncle Sam fingerprints all over the 'overthrow'.

The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking. Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post‐Yanukovych government. The U.S‑favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that “Yats is the guy” who would do the best job.
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The two diplomats also were prepared to escalate the already extensive U.S. involvement in Ukraine’s political turbulence. Pyatt stated bluntly that “we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing [the political transition].” Nuland clearly had Vice President Joe Biden in mind for that role. Noting that the vice president’s national security adviser was in direct contact with her, Nuland related that she told him “probably tomorrow for an atta‐boy and to get the details to stick. So Biden’s willing.”

 

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