Religion and Ethics?

[Lisa558]

You have no ethics. So shut the fuck up.

You must believe in some santa religion.

Ooooh.….and out with the accusations, laced with profanity.

So tell us, are YOU an example of someone with ethics? LOL

 

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I need erased a post. You just said I condoned killing people - ans that’s because liberals like you hate those who follow a religion.

You’re getting nastier by the post.

Hate is exhausting. It's not an emotion one can have 24/7/365 without it consuming them.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Lisa, how do you explain the genocide that your religion did?

 

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Freedom Crows Nest

Let go of your hate.

 

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Lisa, how do you explain the genocide that your religion did?

There's a reason you don't feel hate when you play your uke.

Don't worry be happy.

 

[Lisa558]

Lisa, how do you explain the genocide that your religion did?

Oh….so you’re not just anti-religion. You‘re an antisemite too.

Jews have been murdered by the millions, and you’re on to blaming Jews for some genocide you‘re imagining? You’re disgusting.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Self-flagellation. Jews tend to be liberal. Lisa's awkward and unorthodox -

Jews are among the most strongly liberal, Democratic groups in U.S. politics. There are more than twice as many self-identified Jewish liberals as conservatives, while among the general public, this balance is nearly reversed. In addition, about seven-in-ten Jews identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party. Jews are more supportive of President Barack Obama than are most other religious groups. And about eight-in-ten Jews say homosexuality should be accepted by society.

Interestingly, one Jewish subgroup does not fit this liberal, Democratic profile: Orthodox Jews. Roughly half of Orthodox Jews describe themselves as political conservatives, and 57% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party.

 

[Lisa558]

Self-flagellation. Jews tend to be liberal.

Do you think OP is a Jew? I do agree that liberal Jews are the worst.

 

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Freedom Crows Nest don't let your hate get in the way of seeing the beauty of life.

 

[Lisa558]

Freedom Crows Nest don't let your hate get in the way of seeing the beauty of life.

Oh, I loooove that version!

 

[Feeding Crows]

Whether you're a Jew or pagan, persecution began during Constantine. Hatred began.

 

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Freedom Crows Nest don't let your hate destroy the light inside of you.

“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

― Marianne Williamson, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of "A Course in Miracles"

 

[Feeding Crows]

Lisa, the person named d*ng, is not allowed in this conversation. So if you are an avatar of d*ng, our conversation is over.

He is banned.

 

[Meriweather]

No they're not Lisa. How do you justify the horrors that your ancestors committed to make you Christian?

When was the last time Christians committed those horrors? Was it, perhaps, done at a time when Church and State were intertwined, and now it is more convenient to blame Church other than acknowledge the State was pursuing territory, wealth, and power? Also keep in mind what the administration of any government does (think of Washington DC today) may be far apart from the lives of the masses.

 

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Lisa, the person named d*ng, is not allowed in this conversation. So if you are an avatar of d*ng, our conversation is over.

 

[Grumblenuts]

 

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"When all is said and done, we are in the end absolutely dependent on the universe; and into sacrifices and surrenders of some sort, deliberately looked at and accepted, we are drawn and pressed as into our only permanent positions of repose. Now in those states of mind which fall short of religion, the surrender is submitted to as an imposition of necessity, and the sacrifice is undergone at the very best without complaint. In the religious life, on the contrary, surrender and sacrifice are positively espoused: even unnecessary givings-up are added in order that the happiness may increase. Religion thus makes easy and felicitous what in any case is necessary; and if it be the only agency that can accomplish this result, its vital importance as a human faculty stands vindicated beyond dispute. It becomes an essential organ of our life, performing a function which no other portion of our nature can so successfully fulfill." William James

 

[Meriweather]

You cannot have ethics, and believe in a religion. I have to repeat that because it is true. Ethics and Religion are separate concepts.

True. Ethics did not teach me to seek and find God. Ethics does not teach one to discern and pursue the ideals and perfection of God.

Ethics is both for life and for abortion (one example of inconsistencies in ethics), including that well-known quote of, "Nothing is good or bad; it is thinking that makes it so.

Question: Is there something more current about religion today that bothers you, or did you go searching for a reason to disdain religion--and found you had to go back a few hundred years to pinpoint something to use?

 

[Feeding Crows]

lol. not tonight meri... i could go off all night... And maybe I will. But for now, I'm going to go smoke a cigar and have a beer.

In the meantime, this is what I'm listening to

 

[Lisa558]

Lisa, the person named d*ng, is not allowed in this conversation. So if you are an avatar of d*ng, our conversation is over.

He is banned.

I don’t even know what you mean by my being an avatar of ding.

Besides, he sounds very reasonable to me. You, on the other hand…..