Rape, incest and pregnancy

[syrenn]

so?
it is her belief
are you now wanting to remove that right from her?

No i do not want to remove her opinion. As politician she has no business inserting her religious beliefs on anyone if she is in a position to make laws

How about this try inserting the word allah in the slot where god is and see how it goes over. Try inserting buddha i the slot where god is and see how that goes over.

if someone was a Muslim and said that while running for office, i'd have no more of an issue with them than i do with her
same for a Buddhist

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

 

[DiveCon]

so rabbi..what if the choice is the life of the mother or abortion.....since you now feel any intellecual l person would take your stance...which i do not believe.

while i think that should be the only exception for abortion, i would also include rape and incest, since those are an extremely small percentage of abortions to begin with
the thing that needs to happen is for it to be returned to the states to decide
the court over stepped its bounds with Roe v Wade

 

[Zona]

No i do not want to remove her opinion. As politician she has no business inserting her religious beliefs on anyone if she is in a position to make laws

How about this try inserting the word allah in the slot where god is and see how it goes over. Try inserting buddha i the slot where god is and see how that goes over.

if someone was a Muslim and said that while running for office, i'd have no more of an issue with them than i do with her
same for a Buddhist

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

Divecon, pwned, so pwned.

 

[DiveCon]

No i do not want to remove her opinion. As politician she has no business inserting her religious beliefs on anyone if she is in a position to make laws

How about this try inserting the word allah in the slot where god is and see how it goes over. Try inserting buddha i the slot where god is and see how that goes over.

if someone was a Muslim and said that while running for office, i'd have no more of an issue with them than i do with her
same for a Buddhist

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

yes
and how does that infringe?
it doesnt

 

[DiveCon]

if someone was a Muslim and said that while running for office, i'd have no more of an issue with them than i do with her
same for a Buddhist

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

Divecon, pwned, so pwned.

**** off dipshit
you say that all the time and its never true'

 

[strollingbones]

have you ever wondered what if all the aborted children had been born....where would they be...schools etc...how many more people do you claim it woud result in?

 

[Zona]

now you are avoiding the question...what do you think the physical and mental impact on a 10 yr is to go thru a full term delivery?

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

 

[syrenn]

if someone was a Muslim and said that while running for office, i'd have no more of an issue with them than i do with her
same for a Buddhist

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

yes
and how does that infringe?
it doesnt

Really? You don't think a politician saying "god has a plan" is a problem in reference to influencing laws or how she is thinking?

interesting.

 

[DiveCon]

now you are avoiding the question...what do you think the physical and mental impact on a 10 yr is to go thru a full term delivery?

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

could be put up for adoption
lots of childless couples looking to adopt

 

[DiveCon]

Ever hear of thoes few words:

Separation of church and state?

yes
and how does that infringe?
it doesnt

Really? You don't think a politician saying "god has a plan" is a problem in reference to influencing laws or how she is thinking?

interesting.

it would depend on how it would interfere with their policy making decisions
Bush sure didnt let it interfere.
what makes you think She would?

 

[Charles_Main]

now you are avoiding the question...what do you think the physical and mental impact on a 10 yr is to go thru a full term delivery?

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

I freely admit Abortion should be allowed in this case. Now are you ready to admit when some chick who just does not want to be pregnant has an abortion. That that is ******* horrible and wrong. Or how about can you admit when someone has had multiple abortions simply because they are irresponsible that that is a Nasty and terrible thing to be allowing? You people on the Left are always seeking to get Pro Lifers to give ground. But you wont do the same. You hide behind the small percentage of cases where Abortion may well be the only safe, and right thing to do, and ignore that the vast majority of Abortions performed in this country are nothing more than belated birth control By selfish ass women who were not careful, and just do not want to be bothered to raise a kid, or even have one and put it up for adoption.

I am for the right to bear arms, but accept reasonable restrictions, why is it you guys fight tooth an nail against any attempt to impose reasonable restrictions on Abortion.

 

[Zona]

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

could be put up for adoption
lots of childless couples looking to adopt

Oh yeah, adoption...a child who's mother is 10 and who's father is its grandfather. I am sure that infant will be fine and on the top of the list for adoptions.

Even hard core pro lifers disagree with idiots like you. From what I have read, they say, if the motherslife is in jeopardy, rape or incest. If a 10 year old is raped by her father, that is cause for an abortion. All pro choice people say I am correct.

You are a cold blooded ass if you would make that 10 year old go through that.

 

[strollingbones]

there are plenty of kids available for adoption...people want male white infants...

 

[DiveCon]

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

could be put up for adoption
lots of childless couples looking to adopt

Oh yeah, adoption...a child who's mother is 10 and who's father is its grandfather. I am sure that infant will be fine and on the top of the list for adoptions.

Even hard core pro lifers disagree with idiots like you. From what I have read, they say, if the motherslife is in jeopardy, rape or incest. If a 10 year old is raped by her father, that is cause for an abortion. All pro choice people say I am correct.

You are a cold blooded ass if you would make that 10 year old go through that.

you are a ******* moron
no where did i say any of that strawman bullshit you just posted

then you wonder why people call you a ******* dishonest moron

 

[DiveCon]

there are plenty of kids available for adoption...people want male white infants...

not everyone

 

[The Rabbi]

now you are avoiding the question...what do you think the physical and mental impact on a 10 yr is to go thru a full term delivery?

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

You're the one advocating killing someone who never did anything to deserve it. How cold is that, denying the beautiful gift of life to someone just for convenience? You are a heartless bastard as well as a brainless one.
There is no evidence the infant is defective in any way. You made that one up.
There is a severe shortage of adoptable children in this country. Just ask anyone who wants to adopt. That child will have no problem finding a decent loving home. Of course if you have your way he/she will end up in the trash bin.

 

[Zona]

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

I freely admit Abortion should be allowed in this case. Now are you ready to admit when some chick who just does not want to be pregnant has an abortion. That that is ******* horrible and wrong.

The first half....thank you....thank you for not being like Divecon and disagreeing just to disagree.

The other half, is a pro life, and pro choice argument and that is not the purpose of this thread.

 

[Zona]

Horrible. No one pretends this is an easy call. But if we hold life to be sacred then we sacrifice some shorter term inconvenience and pain for life.

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

You're the one advocating killing someone who never did anything to deserve it. How cold is that, denying the beautiful gift of life to someone just for convenience? You are a heartless bastard as well as a brainless one.
There is no evidence the infant is defective in any way. You made that one up.
There is a severe shortage of adoptable children in this country. Just ask anyone who wants to adopt. That child will have no problem finding a decent loving home. Of course if you have your way he/she will end up in the trash bin.

What about the life of the victim here...the 10 year old who was raped by her father? What about her life? You would actually make her go through that? What the **** kind of human being are you?

 

[DiveCon]

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

I freely admit Abortion should be allowed in this case. Now are you ready to admit when some chick who just does not want to be pregnant has an abortion. That that is ******* horrible and wrong.

The first half....thank you....thank you for not being like Divecon and disagreeing just to disagree.

The other half, is a pro life, and pro choice argument and that is not the purpose of this thread.

more lies

more reasons i call you a dishonest ******* moron

 

[The Rabbi]

What happens to the infant Rabbi? What happens to the infant born to a child who was raped by her father? You guys always scream about how important life is, but never talk about the child after it is born. You do realize there is a great chance there will be something seriously wrong with the infant and we all know the mother is just gone for the rest of her life. But so what, abortion is wrong even in the case of incest and rape, righty?

Seriously, how cold are you? What about that little girl who is reminded over and over of that rape? how cold are you?

I have never, ever heard of an elected official saying if a person is raped by her father, she should be forced to have that child. That is just astonishing to me. She has access to changing laws? Oh dear god.

You're the one advocating killing someone who never did anything to deserve it. How cold is that, denying the beautiful gift of life to someone just for convenience? You are a heartless bastard as well as a brainless one.
There is no evidence the infant is defective in any way. You made that one up.
There is a severe shortage of adoptable children in this country. Just ask anyone who wants to adopt. That child will have no problem finding a decent loving home. Of course if you have your way he/she will end up in the trash bin.

What about the life of the victim here...the 10 year old who was raped by her father? What about her life? You would actually make her go through that? What the **** kind of human being are you?

Are you honestly comparing emotional pain with death? Are you really?