Race Differences in average IQ are Largely Genetic

[Tank]

Asclepias, I have had a friend from Jr High who is blacker then night, and he is today a self made multi-millionaire, one of the smartest people I know.

So I know that a black person can be really smart.

Funny thing is, he hate blacks.

Its a disease people get when they hate themselves.

I understand what you say.

But the simple fact was that white folks treated him better then black folks

 

[Asclepias]

Afrocentrism is unmitigated crap championed by ignorance and the likes of Asc. It is silently acknowledged as being such by academics the world over, though mutely so to avoid the increasingly insignificant label of racist.

Yaacov Shavit, a critic of the movement, summarises its goals in the preface to his book History in Black,[45] in which he states:

“ Thus, if historical myths and legends, or an invented history, play such a major role in the founding of every national reconstruction, the question that should concern us here is the nature of the distinct style in which black Americans imagine their past. The answer to this question is that radical Afrocentrism, the subject of this study, which plays a central role in shaping the modern historical world-view of a large section of the African-American (or Afro-American) community, is far more than an effort to follow the line taken by many ethnic groups and nations in modern rewriting, inventing or developing collective identity and national history. Rather, it is a large-scale historical project to rewrite the history of the whole of humankind from an Afrocentric point of view. The result is a new reconstruction of world history: it is a universal history. ”
Other critics contend that some Afrocentric historical research is grounded in identity politics and myth rather than scholarship.[46] In The Skeptic's Dictionary,[47] philosophy professor Robert Todd Carroll labeled Afrocentrism "pseudohistorical". He argued that Afrocentrism's prime goal was to encourage black nationalism and ethnic pride in order to effectively combat the destructive consequences of cultural and universal racism.[48][49] Similarly, African-American professor Clarence E. Walker, who teaches history at the University of California, Davis, has described Afrocentrism as "a mythology that is racist, reactionary, essentially therapeutic and is eurocentrism in black face."[50]


Afrocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If I was a Eurocentric I would say the same thing. Problem is that DNA evidence has proved they are wrong. What is the excuse for the DNA results by 2 different DNA companies not owned or run by Black people? What ruse will white racist use to move the goal post next?

Also white people in the past/present have made the same claims which actually gave birth to Afrocentrism. I have seen the lies Eurocentrists have told for years being revealed. Heads are going to roll unless they come up with a new way hide the evidence.

 

[Asclepias]

Asclepias, I have had a friend from Jr High who is blacker then night, and he is today a self made multi-millionaire, one of the smartest people I know.

So I know that a black person can be really smart.

Funny thing is, he hate blacks.

Its a disease people get when they hate themselves.

I understand what you say.

But the simple fact was that white folks treated him better then black folks

Probably because he hated them. Ever think of that? I had a co worker that was black as midnight and was teased as a kid. He thought white women were the best thing since sliced bread. The paler the better.

 

[Esmeralda]

what about Indonesians and other Asians who are from poor societies where literacy is low and education is for the privileged only?

Indonesia ranks pretty high on IQ levels:

National IQ Scores - Country Rankings

The problem is that only the people from the highest level of society there are even literate to the point they can even take an IQ test. They can just read and write and that is about all. The majority of Indonesians not even tested. So the tests are meaningless.

 

[Unkotare]

what about Indonesians and other Asians who are from poor societies where literacy is low and education is for the privileged only?

Indonesia ranks pretty high on IQ levels:

National IQ Scores - Country Rankings

The problem is that only the people from the highest level of society there are even literate to the point they can even take an IQ test. They can just read and write and that is about all. The majority of Indonesians not even tested. So the tests are meaningless.

Why would you post something like that when you obviously don't know?

 

[katsteve2012]

Afrocentrism is unmitigated crap championed by ignorance and the likes of Asc. It is silently acknowledged as being such by academics the world over, though mutely so to avoid the increasingly insignificant label of racist.

Yaacov Shavit, a critic of the movement, summarises its goals in the preface to his book History in Black,[45] in which he states:

“ Thus, if historical myths and legends, or an invented history, play such a major role in the founding of every national reconstruction, the question that should concern us here is the nature of the distinct style in which black Americans imagine their past. The answer to this question is that radical Afrocentrism, the subject of this study, which plays a central role in shaping the modern historical world-view of a large section of the African-American (or Afro-American) community, is far more than an effort to follow the line taken by many ethnic groups and nations in modern rewriting, inventing or developing collective identity and national history. Rather, it is a large-scale historical project to rewrite the history of the whole of humankind from an Afrocentric point of view. The result is a new reconstruction of world history: it is a universal history. ”
Other critics contend that some Afrocentric historical research is grounded in identity politics and myth rather than scholarship.[46] In The Skeptic's Dictionary,[47] philosophy professor Robert Todd Carroll labeled Afrocentrism "pseudohistorical". He argued that Afrocentrism's prime goal was to encourage black nationalism and ethnic pride in order to effectively combat the destructive consequences of cultural and universal racism.[48][49] Similarly, African-American professor Clarence E. Walker, who teaches history at the University of California, Davis, has described Afrocentrism as "a mythology that is racist, reactionary, essentially therapeutic and is eurocentrism in black face."[50]


Afrocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If I was a Eurocentric I would say the same thing. Problem is that DNA evidence has proved they are wrong. What is the excuse for the DNA results by 2 different DNA companies not owned or run by Black people? What ruse will white racist use to move the goal post next?

Also white people in the past/present have made the same claims which actually gave birth to Afrocentrism. I have seen the lies Eurocentrists have told for years being revealed. Heads are going to roll unless they come up with a new way hide the evidence.

The manner in which both ethnocentric ideas view the world are totally different from one another but they are alike in the sense that they strive to place each of their ideals at the center.

Afrocentrism seeks to teach a worldview that highlights the contributions of African people worldwide, and significantly in America, due to the cultural history of transported slaves being effectively stripped away and erased upon their arrival in America, as part of the dehumanizing process.

Afrocentrism is also a counter to the Eurocentric worldview which significantly diminishes contributions made by non-Europeans or non-Westerners, which is typical for the majority culture on any continent to set out to do. It is human nature to glorify the history and culture of the masses and minimize the culture of the minorities simply based on a belief that without the majority, there would be no viable or productive society.

Look at some of the statements that are frequently made in this forum.
How often do we read:

"If it were not for the white man, ____________would not survive".

The blank could represent for the most part, any other culture on the planet that has been impacted by western civilization, whether it has been through the minority being the target of invasion or their own arrival through immigration.

Eurocentrism on the other hand seeks to teach a worldview in which European and/or Western culture is superior to the cultures of the rest of the world, and contributions made by Europeans and the West are of the upmost importance, and significance.

Bottom line, it is to be expected that those with a purely Eurocentric view of the world would dismiss an Afrocentric view as being a view without credibility.

Speaking for myself, I think that there is merit in learning from all cultures, especially in a country whose inhabitants are rapidly approaching being a multi cultural majority.

JMO.

 

[Meathead]

Most races do not have to try to create a history or appropriate that of others.

 

[Asclepias]

Most races do not have to try to create a history or appropriate that of others.

No such thing as races but Europeans have done it for years.

 

[Esmeralda]

Indonesia ranks pretty high on IQ levels:

National IQ Scores - Country Rankings

The problem is that only the people from the highest level of society there are even literate to the point they can even take an IQ test. They can just read and write and that is about all. The majority of Indonesians not even tested. So the tests are meaningless.

Why would you post something like that when you obviously don't know?

Have you ever been there? Do you think they scoop all the beggars off the streets and collect all the people out of the slums to give them IQ tests? Most of the people in Indonesia are extremely poor and not well educated. Those who are educated are the higher level of society; those are the ones taking IQ tests. There is no comparison with a society like that to a society like Japan or the US or Eastern or Western Europe, which, when they say someone is literate that person can do more than very basic reading and writing. The vast majority of people are very poor and uneducated.

Indonesia has the fourth largest education system in the world yet in a landmark education report of 50 nations Indonesia ranked last. ... Only a third of Indonesian students – in a country where 57 million attend school – complete basic schooling. Education experts say less than half of the country’s teachers possess even the minimum qualifications to teach properly and teacher absenteeism hovers at around 20 percent. Many teachers in the public school system work outside of the classroom to improve their incomes. Indonesian Corruption Watch claims there are very few schools in the country that are clean of graft, bribery or embezzlement – with 40 percent of their budget siphoned off before it reaches the classroom

Do you really think the AVERAGE Indonesian person is being included in their stats of IQ scores or are are even taking IQ tests? I am familiar with this type of country. The rich kids go to private schools and get good educations. The average kids are barely educated. It is the kids from the private schools and the highest level of society that are being tested there for IQ scores, not the two-thirds percent who don't even complete basic schooling.

 

[Tank]

Man, people sure do have alot of excuses for the failures of blacks.

But like Forrest says, stupid is as stupid does

 

[Esmeralda]

Man, people sure do have alot of excuses for the failures of blacks.

But like Forrest says, stupid is as stupid does

And you are a perfect example of that.

 

[Tank]

Your response is stupid, are you black?

 

[RKMBrown]

Your response is stupid, are you black?

Your AVI is stupid, did you throw a tread?

 

[IanC]

Skin color determines intelligence? Albinos must be geniuses.

I realize you are just making a joke but your comment points out how so many people have a problem with correlation/causation. Race causes both skin colour and intelligence but the genes for skin colour do not necessarily affect intelligence. The race of an albino is obvious despite skin colour.

 

[freedombecki]

Gee, this is so complex. I thought criminals were people who broke the law, no matter what color they were. Silly me!!!

 

[Asclepias]

Skin color determines intelligence? Albinos must be geniuses.

I realize you are just making a joke but your comment points out how so many people have a problem with correlation/causation. Race causes both skin colour and intelligence but the genes for skin colour do not necessarily affect intelligence. The race of an albino is obvious despite skin colour.

Thats not true. Albinos in the middle east and india look a lot like white people.

 

[IanC]

Do you think there is a lot of genetic separation between whites, east Indians and the peoples between them?

 

[Unkotare]

The problem is that only the people from the highest level of society there are even literate to the point they can even take an IQ test. They can just read and write and that is about all. The majority of Indonesians not even tested. So the tests are meaningless.

Why would you post something like that when you obviously don't know?

Have you ever been there? .

Have you? And have you conducted in-depth demographic research to support your claims about knowing about the educational level of "most" people there? I have taught a very large number of Indonesian students, and valuing education seems to be a very wide-spread cultural value among the nation's peoples.

 

[Meathead]

Why would you post something like that when you obviously don't know?

Have you ever been there? .

Have you? And have you conducted in-depth demographic research to support your claims about knowing about the educational level of "most" people there? I have taught a very large number of Indonesian students, and valuing education seems to be a very wide-spread cultural value among the nation's peoples.

She's going to ask you if you even have a passport next. She is very worldly!

 

[Asclepias]

Do you think there is a lot of genetic separation between whites, east Indians and the peoples between them?

No. There is not much separation between any of the ethnicities genetically.