Race Differences in average IQ are Largely Genetic

[Asclepias]

3a. Egyptian Dynastics were NOT black/Subsaharan they were their own North African 'Nile' group that mostly evolved there and, according to most scientists, are still there as Egyptians. Also partly mixed in with Middle Easterners etc.

I challenge you to post your proof that any scientist will say this beyond the dates proven by DNA that Egyptians were from the South and Great Lakes regions of Africa. I will post the DNA results again for you since you have conveniently forgotten or are to stupid to comprehend them.

1. The first chart shows the break down as to what areas the DNA come from
2. The second chart proves the current residents of Egypt are no where near the genectic makeup of ancient Egypt. Black and White Historians have been saying this for years but have been scoffed at. I guess they have had the last laugh.

If you have an issue with DNA Tribes Abu bu try another company. DNA Consultants They will tell you the same thing. Do an internet search on the Thuya gene which was specific to the ruling families of Egypt.

The Thuya Gene

One of the autosomal ancestry markers prominent in the Royal Egyptian families of the New Kingdom, this not-so-rare gene is Central African in origin and was passed to Thuya from her forebears, Queens of Upper and Lower Egypt and High Priestesses of Hathor, the Mother Goddess. Thuya passed it to her grandson Akhenaten and great-grandson Tutankhamun, among others, as documented in a forensic study of the Amarna mummies by Zahi Hawass, head of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Cairo, in 2010. - See more at: The Thuya Gene

The Thuya Gene is Sub-Saharan African with a low frequency in North Africa and the Old Near East and spotty distribution elsewhere except it is uniformly low in India and points east. - See more at: The Thuya Gene

Almost forgot about the King Tut gene

http://dnaconsultants.com/Default.aspx?PageID=6875719&A=SearchResult&SearchID=7406204&ObjectID=6875719&ObjectType=1

Also African in its ultimate source, the King Tut Gene finds modest distribution in East Coast American Indians, the Himalayas, Northeast Europe and scattered other populations, including Jews. - See more at: http://dnaconsultants.com/Default.a...tID=6875719&ObjectType=1#sthash.wBts92ld.dpuf

 

[Esmeralda]

It is very clear that the OP's agenda is racist based. The fact is that those who are racist have been found to be the least educated and the lowest intelligence, so the very fact someone posts a thread like this indicates the level of their intelligence.

It is those cultures who value education most and which are small and homogeneous which score the highest on these tests. These are cultures which do not have large populations of poor, uneducated, disadvantaged people. They are cultures where, in fact, as it is in Japan, education is stressed to the point that young people take their own lives due to the amount of pressure they endure from the family's emphasis on success.

It is also a proven fact that education changes IQ scores. You take anyone who at 18 has not completed university study and test him/her on IQ. Do the same IQ test after four years of university, and it is higher. Do it after 6 years of university, and it is higher. Therefore, it is clear that education makes a difference. When you compare a culture where education is so dominant a force in its population that young people commit suicide due to the pressure of getting good grades and entering prestigious universities and a culture which does not place such a high value on academic study, it is clear that there is a huge potential for the former culture to get higher IQ scores. In essence, IQ scores are greatly meaningless and definitely not predicted by race.

Although Japanese and Chinese may score high on these tests, what about Indonesians and other Asians who are from poor societies where literacy is low and education is for the privileged only? What about Native Americans who also live in poverty and do not get the same level of education as their white counterparts in America? Do those people, who are racially Asians, score higher on IQ tests than white America? No. It's because of education and socioeconomic reasons.

There is much historic evidence to show that throughout time, racists and sexists have tried to prove that the other gender (women) or another race is somehow inferior mentally. There have been theories on the size and shape of the scull, the weight of the brain, hormones, body differences, etc., that have been used to 'prove' women were intellectually inferior to men or that one race or another was inferior to Europeans or white people. This theory regarding IQ is just another one that goes nowhere and proves only one thing: there will always be those among us who feel the need to create a lie in order to prove their superiority over others. It's a psychological problem, and quite pathetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

 

[Tank]

It's funny how liberals believe in IQ's when it's a black man on death row

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...urt-death-penalty-mental-retardation/2924709/

 

[Esmeralda]

Assuming that intelligence is a genetic trait (seems obvious to me, too) begs the next:

SO WHAT?

The other question that goes begging is why is the OP such a stupid racist fuck? Ain't he white?

 

[Tank]

what about Indonesians and other Asians who are from poor societies where literacy is low and education is for the privileged only?

Indonesia ranks pretty high on IQ levels:

National IQ Scores - Country Rankings

 

[Asclepias]

Imhotep

The True Father’s of Math and Medicine

 

[Tank]

The "fathers of math" didn't teach their sons

 

[Asclepias]

This was written back in 1994

The facts are these: Herodotus, a Greek writer in the 5th century B.C. claims that "the people of Colchis must be Egyptians because like them they are black-skinned and wooly-haired." (History, Book II.) The interesting thing about what Herodotus wrote is that had he believed the Egyptians to be any other color than black like other Africans he could have chosen other Greek words than the one he chose. His word is melaschroes, black-skinned. If Herodotus thought the Egyptians were white he would have used leucochroes. Had they been simply brown, like so many African Americans, he may have used phrenychroes, but he chose the word melaschroes. This word comes from the same root as Melanesia, the black island, or melanite, a black garnet. The ancient Greek use of "melas" was precise. Egypt is in Africa. Why shouldn't the ancient Egyptians be anything other than black?

The Greek philosopher Aristotle writes in the 4th century B.C. in Physiognomonica that the "Egyptians and Ethiopians were very black."

Calling Ancient Egyptians Black Isn't Myth-making The Greek Writer Herodotus Said "The People Of Colchis Must Be Egyptians Because Like Them They Are Black-skinned And Wooly-haired." - Philly.com


What do you think Abu bu? Even the Greek Historians say the Egyptians were black many years after the great pharaohs were gone and before DNA testing. They had their eyes working for them.

 

[Tank]

Ancient Egypt was founded and built by Mediterranean Caucasians as far back as 4500 B.C. Egypt’s period of greatness was from 3400 B.C. to 1800 B.C. and was characterized by its amazing architecture, pyramids, temples, and mastery of mathematics and engineering, the remnants of which are still evident today. The White Egyptians pioneered medicine, chemistry, astronomy, and law; In many cases, their achievements remain unequalled.

But, about 3400 B.C. Egypt civilization began to spread up the Nile River, bringing it in close contact with the black Nubians to the south. Soon they were using Blacks for slave labor and Egypt became history’s first melting pot.

In time the infusion of Negro blood worked itself up from the bottom of Egyptian society. The slaves were eventually freed, received political equality, and took posts of authority in government.

By the time of King Tut (1370-1352 B.C.) even the ruling classes had been mongrelized and Egypt began a tailspin downward. Today, the once-mighty Egypt is very much a Third World country, having lost its art, its medicine, its architectural ability, and its position in world affairs.

The absurd notion that Ancient Egypt was a product of Negro ingenuity is now being widely disseminated in the schools. Though scholars know this is a blatant lie, they justify the deception by assuming it will boost the “self-esteem” of Black children.

 

[Tank]

One day there will be a Negro like Asclepias telling people that Negros built Ancient America

 

[Asclepias]

Cheikh Anta Diop (29 December 1923 – 7 February 1986) was a historian, anthropologist, physicist, and politician who studied the human race's origins and pre-colonial African culture. Cheikh Anta Diop University, in Dakar, Senegal, is named after him.

This genius developed a "Melanin Dosage Test" that proved the Egyptians were black before DNA testing was readily available. More proof of hi IQ in Black people.

 

[Asclepias]

It's funny how liberals believe in IQ's when it's a black man on death row

Supreme Court won't stop execution for mental incapacity

Serial Killer: Robert Lee YATES Jr
Robert Lee Yates, Jr. is an American serial killer. Yates is known to have murdered at least 13 women, all of whom were prostitutes working on Spokane’s “Skid Row” on E. Sprague Avenue. Yates also confessed to two murders committed in Walla Walla in 1975 and a 1988 murder committed in Skagit County. In 2002

Low iQ? Could it be criminality has nothing to do with IQ?

 

[Tank]

Asclepias, I have had a friend from Jr High who is blacker then night, and he is today a self made multi-millionaire, one of the smartest people I know.

So I know that a black person can be really smart.

Funny thing is, he hate blacks.

 

[Peterf]

Sorry Abu bu. There is only one race. Human. Black is not a race. Its more of an ethnicity. Please post where I said Imhotep was Olmec?

I'm with you on this. 'Race' is a 19th century construct long past its usefulness.

The reality is that there are a multitude of gene pools, all overlapping with others to a greater or lesser extent.

(Will you still want to make me look stupid even when I agree with you I wonder).

IMO race was never a useful construct. I think it was quite damaging. It led to people like the OP being born that had to use something to justify being savages. Before these classifications people were people. The color Black was not associated with evil it was associated with divinity. People worshipped Black gods.

Anyone with a brain can see the race classifications were made up to marginalize certain groups. They didn't even make sense. Egypt was important and thats why there was an effort to make people think that not only were they not black but that Egypt itself was not in Africa. They fooled many people but DNA had the final say. This white washing of history has prevented the acquisition of true knowledge and set humans back. there is this stupid assumption that Blacks never did anything great. Thats still reflected in todays society, not only here in the US but globally.

I only enjoy making people look stupid if they stand behind stupid things and are rude to boot.

'Blacks' have done great things. But PROPORTIONALLY fewer than 'whites'. I fear this is undeniable. It is also clear beyond argument that many of the gene pools in modern Africa result in lower AVERAGE intelligence than is necessary to sustain a developed society.

The prerequisite of solving a problem is to recognise that one exists.

Btw in view of recent history I would be wary of putting forward Egypt as a repository of ability and intelligence.

 

[Peterf]

It's funny how liberals believe in IQ's when it's a black man on death row

Supreme Court won't stop execution for mental incapacity

Serial Killer: Robert Lee YATES Jr
Robert Lee Yates, Jr. is an American serial killer. Yates is known to have murdered at least 13 women, all of whom were prostitutes working on Spokane’s “Skid Row” on E. Sprague Avenue. Yates also confessed to two murders committed in Walla Walla in 1975 and a 1988 murder committed in Skagit County. In 2002

Low iQ? Could it be criminality has nothing to do with IQ?

Could be, though unlikely. But one would have to explain away the fact that the average IQ of convicts in the UK (for example) is way, way below that of the general population. I don't think that the "only the stupid get caught" argument really does it.

 

[Peterf]

Asclepias, I have had a friend from Jr High who is blacker then night, and he is today a self made multi-millionaire, one of the smartest people I know.

So I know that a black person can be really smart.

Funny thing is, he hate blacks.

IMO your rich friend is daft to prejudge people by the shade of their skin. His alleged 'smartness' clearly has its limits.

 

[Meathead]

Afrocentrism is unmitigated crap championed by ignorance and the likes of Asc. It is silently acknowledged as being such by academics the world over, though mutely so to avoid the increasingly insignificant label of racist.

Yaacov Shavit, a critic of the movement, summarises its goals in the preface to his book History in Black,[45] in which he states:

“ Thus, if historical myths and legends, or an invented history, play such a major role in the founding of every national reconstruction, the question that should concern us here is the nature of the distinct style in which black Americans imagine their past. The answer to this question is that radical Afrocentrism, the subject of this study, which plays a central role in shaping the modern historical world-view of a large section of the African-American (or Afro-American) community, is far more than an effort to follow the line taken by many ethnic groups and nations in modern rewriting, inventing or developing collective identity and national history. Rather, it is a large-scale historical project to rewrite the history of the whole of humankind from an Afrocentric point of view. The result is a new reconstruction of world history: it is a universal history. ”
Other critics contend that some Afrocentric historical research is grounded in identity politics and myth rather than scholarship.[46] In The Skeptic's Dictionary,[47] philosophy professor Robert Todd Carroll labeled Afrocentrism "pseudohistorical". He argued that Afrocentrism's prime goal was to encourage black nationalism and ethnic pride in order to effectively combat the destructive consequences of cultural and universal racism.[48][49] Similarly, African-American professor Clarence E. Walker, who teaches history at the University of California, Davis, has described Afrocentrism as "a mythology that is racist, reactionary, essentially therapeutic and is eurocentrism in black face."[50]


Afrocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Asclepias]

Asclepias, I have had a friend from Jr High who is blacker then night, and he is today a self made multi-millionaire, one of the smartest people I know.

So I know that a black person can be really smart.

Funny thing is, he hate blacks.

Its a disease people get when they hate themselves.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm with you on this. 'Race' is a 19th century construct long past its usefulness.

The reality is that there are a multitude of gene pools, all overlapping with others to a greater or lesser extent.

(Will you still want to make me look stupid even when I agree with you I wonder).

IMO race was never a useful construct. I think it was quite damaging. It led to people like the OP being born that had to use something to justify being savages. Before these classifications people were people. The color Black was not associated with evil it was associated with divinity. People worshipped Black gods.

Anyone with a brain can see the race classifications were made up to marginalize certain groups. They didn't even make sense. Egypt was important and thats why there was an effort to make people think that not only were they not black but that Egypt itself was not in Africa. They fooled many people but DNA had the final say. This white washing of history has prevented the acquisition of true knowledge and set humans back. there is this stupid assumption that Blacks never did anything great. Thats still reflected in todays society, not only here in the US but globally.

I only enjoy making people look stupid if they stand behind stupid things and are rude to boot.

'Blacks' have done great things. But PROPORTIONALLY fewer than 'whites'. I fear this is undeniable. It is also clear beyond argument that many of the gene pools in modern Africa result in lower AVERAGE intelligence than is necessary to sustain a developed society.

The prerequisite of solving a problem is to recognise that one exists.

Btw in view of recent history I would be wary of putting forward Egypt as a repository of ability and intelligence.

Who made up these tests? Why would I be wary when the present ruling class in Egypt are not the same people that created Egypt?

 

[Asclepias]

It's funny how liberals believe in IQ's when it's a black man on death row

Supreme Court won't stop execution for mental incapacity

Serial Killer: Robert Lee YATES Jr
Robert Lee Yates, Jr. is an American serial killer. Yates is known to have murdered at least 13 women, all of whom were prostitutes working on Spokane’s “Skid Row” on E. Sprague Avenue. Yates also confessed to two murders committed in Walla Walla in 1975 and a 1988 murder committed in Skagit County. In 2002

Low iQ? Could it be criminality has nothing to do with IQ?

Could be, though unlikely. But one would have to explain away the fact that the average IQ of convicts in the UK (for example) is way, way below that of the general population. I don't think that the "only the stupid get caught" argument really does it.

The UK has an underclass as well. I have a friend that moved to Spain because the racial problem is bad in the UK as well.