Race Differences in average IQ are Largely Genetic

[Asclepias]

While we wait for an answer other than "because I said so with no evidence" check this out. The modern day population of North Africa (now claimed as Mediterranean) is not even close to being indicative of the ethnic makeup during the time of Egypts early beginnings

 

[abu afak]

OK sleepyAss, you want to 'Play Picture'?
You keep DISHONESTLY Doing so.
32 Very recent arrests in Tennessee.

Clean Sweep.
That's puts ME up a Dozen or more with a Single/More Likely Outcome.
Are there More Black Scientists or Convicts?

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Above Must be Olmecs or Melanesians!
:^)

04-10-2013
0:33

Offense:
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Case #: 1326483 Disposition: Open

Shall we Keep Playing Asclepias' DISHONEST LOW BROW Picture Game, or have real debate?
Since he has no legitimate refutation, I suspect this will continue.
Guess who's gonna win either way.
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Since the Bogus "I found a black science professional as proof" game continues, So will I reluctantly with a far MORE Representative grouping.

Sex: M Race: B Build:
Height: 6-2 Weight: 220
Hair: BLK Eyes: BRO
Agency Arrest Date Released
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14:25
Offense:
Charge: 16-025-0020 CRIMINAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCECase #: Disposition: Open

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[Asclepias]

Since the Bogus "I found a black science professional as proof" game continues, So will I reluctantly with a far MORE Representative grouping.

I'll take that as a sign you are waving the "white" flag Abu bu.

 

[Meathead]

Thats a new denial. Show me evidence of this. I wont call you completely insane until I see this. This should be pretty good.

I cannot show you that someone who lived over 4000 years ago was not black. You cannot show me that he was. It is tantamount to asking me to prove that Noah was not black.

I didnt ask you about Noah. Thats another question altogether. I asked you about Imhotep. What makes you think he was not black?

There were no, or very few "blacks" living in Egypt 4000 years ago.

You have failed once again.

 

[Asclepias]

Gunned down over a Facebook snub: The couple ‘shot dead by a father… because they defriended his daughter on social networking site’
A father shot dead a young couple after allegedly becoming upset that they deleted his daughter on Facebook. Marvin Potter, 60, has been charged with the first degree murders of Billy Payne Jr, 36, and his 23-year-old girlfriend Billie Jean Hayworth, police said today.

OK that one may have low IQ implications but still emotion has nothing to do with IQ.

 

[Asclepias]

I cannot show you that someone who lived over 4000 years ago was not black. You cannot show me that he was. It is tantamount to asking me to prove that Noah was not black.

I didnt ask you about Noah. Thats another question altogether. I asked you about Imhotep. What makes you think he was not black?

There were no, or very few "blacks" living in Egypt 4000 years ago.

You have failed once again.

Where is your proof? I posted mine lets see yours.

 

[Asclepias]

While we wait for an answer other than "because I said so with no evidence" check this out. The modern day population of North Africa (now claimed as Mediterranean) is not even close to being indicative of the ethnic makeup during the time of Egypts early beginnings

I cant force you to be intelligent but I tried. Have fun wallowing in ignorance. Damn Abu bu you got completely exposed!!

 

[abu afak]

Since the Bogus "I found a black science professional as proof" game continues, So will I reluctantly with a far MORE Representative grouping.

I'll take that as a sign you are waving the "white" flag Abu bu.

If you admit Your dozens of Black Professional pictures you SPAMMED me/us with were irrelevant and AVOIDING real debate I asked for AND you will stop now... I will return to the more pure debate. THAT is why I am here.
Agreed?
Yes or No?

BTW, I still don't see any of Imhotep's DNA.
Imhotep might well have been from an Early Mediterranean line that jump started genetically the pathetic sub saharan culture.. at least in the North or at least until they were Diluted by less successful DNA. There were many Mediterranean High Cultures. No accident Africa's most well known was ON that Sea/point of contact, NOT sub saharan.

Because 3000 Years ago there was Stonehenge and many [other] Middle Eastern/Med advanced Cultures but Sub Saharans didn't build/invent/write very much until Contacted/Crossed/Converted/or enslaved by Arab Muslim traders.
(Mohammed derogatorially called them 'Raisins' in the 7th c AD)
After app 1000 AD... YOUR 'Mali' and other Kings Crudely Copied a few Mosques that are most often presented as 'black accomplishment': just as you did.
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[Asclepias]

Since the Bogus "I found a black science professional as proof" game continues, So will I reluctantly with a far MORE Representative grouping.

I'll take that as a sign you are waving the "white" flag Abu bu.

If you admit Your dozens of Black Professional pictures you SPAMMED me/us with were irrelevant and AVOIDING real debate I asked for AND you will stop now... I will return to the more pure debate.
Agreed?
Yes or No?

BTW, I still don't see any of Imhotep's DNA.
Imhotep might well have been from an Early Mediterranean line that jump started genetically the pathetic sub saharan culture.. at least in the North or at least until they were Diluted by less successful DNA. There were many Mediterranean High Cultures. No accident Africa's most well known was ON that Sea/point of contact, NOT sub saharan.

LOL! Are you trying to plea bargain? Sorry clown. You have been buried. The trial is over and the only one that doesn't know you have been convicted of stupidity is you.

Those Black professionals prove that Black genes are not inferior. Imhotep may have been a lot of things but intelligence dictates he was Black until they find his tomb. I guess you dont know how to read DNA results. The Egyptians were more sub-saharan than most African-Americans are today. You are too funny.

 

[abu afak]

I'll take that as a sign you are waving the "white" flag Abu bu.

If you admit Your dozens of Black Professional pictures you SPAMMED me/us with were irrelevant and AVOIDING real debate I asked for AND you will stop now... I will return to the more pure debate.
Agreed?
Yes or No?

BTW, I still don't see any of Imhotep's DNA.
Imhotep might well have been from an Early Mediterranean line that jump started genetically the pathetic sub saharan culture.. at least in the North or at least until they were Diluted by less successful DNA. There were many Mediterranean High Cultures. No accident Africa's most well known was ON that Sea/point of contact, NOT sub saharan.

LOL! Are you trying to plea bargain? Sorry clown. You have been buried. The trial is over and the only one that doesn't know you have been convicted of stupidity is you.

Those Black professionals prove that Black genes are not inferior. Imhotep may have been a lot of things but intelligence dictates he was Black until they find his tomb. I guess you dont know how to read DNA results. The Egyptians were more sub-saharan than most African-Americans are today. You are too funny.

So You DISHONESTLY Short quoted me because you were Wrong/Have NO evidence of Imhotep's DNA..
and NO refutation of the fact the greatest accomplishment you claim for 'Sub saharans' was a North-of-Sahara culture!
The Irony!
and the best thing you can even claim was that sub Saharans got Screwed/Crossbred/Mixed DNA with a superior culture and so we got Egypt.
While Sub saharans THEMSELVES lived in huts for Thousands More years! Many still do!

To The board:
AsleepyAss Also conspicuously FAILED to agree to cease the fallacious 'picture game' and so Himself is "Waving the White Flag" on True Debate.
Who can blame him, he's getting his ass kicked at EVERY turn.

EDIT:
And Note the Non-answer below.
He simply could NOT address my simple points Outing his Dishonesty, just spam up some tangential afrocentric 'stuff'. (I never even mentioned "Nubians" WTF)
Still No DNA from Imhotep; the genesis/meat of this part of the debate.
His best 'sub saharan' culture/genius was.... was... was... NORTH OF the Sahara/on the Mediterranean sea.. of course.

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[Asclepias]

So You DISHONESTLY Short quoted me because you were Wrong/Have NO evidence of Imhotep's DNA..
and NO refutation of the fact the greatest accomplishment you claim for 'Sub saharans' was a North-of-Sahara culture!
The Irony!
and the best thing you can even claim was that sub Saharans got Screwed/Crossbred/Mixed DNA with a superior culture and so we got Egypt.
While sub saharans lived in huts for thousands more years. Many still.

To The board:
AsleepyAlso conspicuously FAILED to agree to cease the fallacious 'picture game' and so Himself is "Waving the White Flag" on True Debate.
Who can blame him, he's getting his ass kicked at EVERY turn.[/size]
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The Nubians were not a superior culture. They were a parallel culture. Just because they mixed with the Egyptians doesn't make the Egyptians suddenly superior. BTW the Nubians were Black as well stupid.

Nubians dumbass

 

[Asclepias]

Where did Meathead go with his proof that the ancient Egyptians were Mediterraneans instead of Black sub-saharan Africans? I posted DNA proof Meathead. Where is your DNA proof?

 

[Peterf]

You do realize DNA is not race don't you? You have Black DNA in you and you are not Black. Are you saying Imhotep was not a Black African? I want to see the words typed out.

"sub sahran DNA" is referring to RACE.
If you have lesser amount you are of Mixed Race.

Again, we do Not know how much of any DNA Imhotep had. So your premise of "so much sub saharan" was NOT an honest one and NOT in evidence.
So you've already Lost because I destroyed the Premise of your loaded question.
IQ.

In fact, the surviving images of him are of different tint.
But one thing for sure, Unlike the Other pictures YOU Posted.. he does NOT have the classical facial features of the Olmec Sculpture or Melanesians YOU used as "proof" of their origin.


So now you're just going for ambiguous 'color' as 'proof' of Degree of [sub saharan] Black RACE.

The string premise proved again.

Sorry Abu bu. There is only one race. Human. Black is not a race. Its more of an ethnicity. Please post where I said Imhotep was Olmec?

I'm with you on this. 'Race' is a 19th century construct long past its usefulness.

The reality is that there are a multitude of gene pools, all overlapping with others to a greater or lesser extent.

(Will you still want to make me look stupid even when I agree with you I wonder).

 

[Unkotare]

Skin color determines intelligence? Albinos must be geniuses.

Well no. Genes determine lots of things. Among them ... intelligence ....

Which ones?

Well? Which ones?

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[Asclepias]

"sub sahran DNA" is referring to RACE.
If you have lesser amount you are of Mixed Race.

Again, we do Not know how much of any DNA Imhotep had. So your premise of "so much sub saharan" was NOT an honest one and NOT in evidence.
So you've already Lost because I destroyed the Premise of your loaded question.
IQ.

In fact, the surviving images of him are of different tint.
But one thing for sure, Unlike the Other pictures YOU Posted.. he does NOT have the classical facial features of the Olmec Sculpture or Melanesians YOU used as "proof" of their origin.


So now you're just going for ambiguous 'color' as 'proof' of Degree of [sub saharan] Black RACE.

The string premise proved again.

Sorry Abu bu. There is only one race. Human. Black is not a race. Its more of an ethnicity. Please post where I said Imhotep was Olmec?

I'm with you on this. 'Race' is a 19th century construct long past its usefulness.

The reality is that there are a multitude of gene pools, all overlapping with others to a greater or lesser extent.

(Will you still want to make me look stupid even when I agree with you I wonder).

IMO race was never a useful construct. I think it was quite damaging. It led to people like the OP being born that had to use something to justify being savages. Before these classifications people were people. The color Black was not associated with evil it was associated with divinity. People worshipped Black gods.

Anyone with a brain can see the race classifications were made up to marginalize certain groups. They didn't even make sense. Egypt was important and thats why there was an effort to make people think that not only were they not black but that Egypt itself was not in Africa. They fooled many people but DNA had the final say. This white washing of history has prevented the acquisition of true knowledge and set humans back. there is this stupid assumption that Blacks never did anything great. Thats still reflected in todays society, not only here in the US but globally.

I only enjoy making people look stupid if they stand behind stupid things and are rude to boot.

 

[abu afak]

Sorry Abu bu. There is only one race. Human. Black is not a race. Its more of an ethnicity. Please post where I said Imhotep was Olmec?

Already Answered, And I Used/Linked/credentialed the foremost Evolution/Specie Expert in the country. (Coyne)
Still in part my Sig.
You used You.
You LOST.

I'm with you on this. 'Race' is a 19th century construct long past its usefulness.
The reality is that there are a multitude of gene pools, all overlapping with others to a greater or lesser extent.
(Will you still want to make me look stupid even when I agree with you I wonder).

IMO race was never a useful construct. I think it was quite damaging. It led to people like the OP being born that had to use something to justify being savages. Before these classifications people were people.
The color Black was not associated with evil it was associated with divinity. People worshipped Black gods.

Anyone with a brain can see the race classifications were made up to marginalize certain groups. They didn't even make sense. Egypt was important and thats why there was an effort to make people think that not only were they not black but that Egypt itself was not in Africa. They fooled many people but DNA had the final say. This white washing of history has prevented the acquisition of true knowledge and set humans back. there is this stupid assumption that Blacks never did anything great. Thats still reflected in todays society, not only here in the US but globally.

I only enjoy making people look stupid if they stand behind stupid things and are rude to boot.

1. How extraordinarily Ignorant.
What is that?
The Garden of Eden Theory?
The "I never saw anyone else.. so I didn't call them anything else"... Theory.

ie, you lived on Lake Placid 3000 years ago and You thought the only fish was Lake Trout.
Then you saw another lake with Pike!
Then, Miraculously, as Post-Columbian Earth, (tho there was smaller contact Milennia earlier) you traveled even more and realized there were thousands of species of Fish, and you Named those species/subspecies too.
ie, Tuna are Not Lake trout.
ie, Brown Trout are Not Rainbow trout.
So now you are a reprehensible "specie-ist".
! What the heck was the matter with calling them all just "fish"? Those racist Bastards!

2. Somehow Man is exempt from this GENETIC classification/Significant difference in appearance DUE to Genes.
That IS Subspecie/RACE in ALL Other Flora and Fauna.
Race is NOT a White conspiracy.
If anything, there is one to Suppress the FACT of them in humans for political reasons.
I posted the Foremost Expert on Evolution and Species in this entire country.
He wrote THE book/textbook "Specie".

3. In this entire string all you have used is cheerleading Racialist 'Black History' sites and Look-alike pics "proving" Olmecs, Melanesians, AND !mhotep, are Black/Sub-saharan Race/genes.
By LOOKS, Which is Not a "social construct"!
But... the Imhotep casting does NOT even look like your also-claimed Olmec or Melanesian facial features at all. It's just darkened with age.
What a Raging Racist Hypocrite YOU are!
and... Dishonestly, as some sort of evidence, black professional pictures to try and Bury/Shout down the Larger truth/stats that are more representative of the problem of Blacks in America today.

3a. Egyptian Dynastics were NOT black/Subsaharan they were their own North African 'Nile' group that mostly evolved there and, according to most scientists, are still there as Egyptians. Also partly mixed in with Middle Easterners etc.

4. And of course your link, WTF is "DNA Tribes"?
A "Social Construct"?
DNA is "social"?
Or is it a Euphemism for [genetically identifiable] 'indigenous base populations'/RACE.

5. You enjoy making other people look stupid, especially Rude ones
a. You are in no position to make Anyone look stupid. !
Bro.com just cant lie credibly enough and you Do not have anywhere near the goods.
Your above post/postS is/are mindblowingly ILLogical.
b. Your first response' to my links/posts in this string was a Third Party Insult "stupid" (post #57). So "Rude" it wasn't even in direct reply.
yet More Asclepas Hypocrisy.
Haysoos Christos, this guy is utterly Blind.

6. Now, I realize, like ALL my posts, you cannot answer and will deflect and claim victory even while getting eviscerated.. Again.
This was for almost everyone else though.
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[Esmeralda]

IQ tests are nearly worthless. They are written by people from one culture and administered to another culture. The results are rigged against the culture that has not written the test. IQ tests are not a reliable method of assessing intelligence quotient. One PROVEN fact which supports that claim is when people attain a higher level of education, their IQ goes up. This alone proves the inaccuracy of testing anyone's IQ. Doing well on the IQ test has to do with culture, education, socio-economic level, etc. At this time in human history, we have no accurate way of determining IQ. It's a myth.

Also, the IQ test does not assess imagination and creativity, which is a major part of being highly capable intellectually. Even according to Einstein, who is heralded as being to highly intelligent: "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." Albert Einstein

 

[Tank]

IQ tests are nearly worthless. They are written by people from one culture and administered to another culture. The results are rigged against the culture that has not written the test.

Asians do the best on American IQ tests.

Racist

 

[Tank]

Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally.

 

[BobPlumb]

What a taboo topic for most people. Not a good area for a scientist to do an objective study using otherwise accepted statistical practices if he ever wants to work again for a major university.