Race Differences in average IQ are Largely Genetic

[abu afak]

Recent debate here has only strengthened and confirmed this for me.
Across both socioeconomic and geographic bounds, it's still and consistently true.
Look at the world/continents not just our country. It all makes [common] sense only because it is. It's why there's no real cure for many social ills/no amount of remedial policy can overcome it.

Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic
Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic
Medical Research News
News-medical.net
26-Apr-2005

A 60-page review of the scientific evidence, some based on state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of brain size, has concluded that race differences in average IQ are largely genetic.

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The paper, "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability," by J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario and Arthur R. Jensen of the University of California at Berkeley"....."
"Neither the existence nor the size of race differences in IQ are a matter of dispute, only their cause," write the authors."..."

"Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even After matching on maternal education and other variables," said Rushton. "Therefore they Cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert an effect. That's why Jensen and I looked at the genetic hypothesis in detail. We examined 10 categories of evidence."

1. The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture.
Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa.

2. Race Differences are Most Pronounced on Tests that Best Measure the General Intelligence Factor (g). Black-White differences, for example, are larger on the Backward Digit Span test than on the less g loaded Forward Digit Span test.

3. The Gene-Environment Architecture of IQ is the Same in all Races, and Race Differences are Most Pronounced on More Heritable Abilities. Studies of Black, White, and East Asian twins, for example, show the heritability of IQ is 50% or higher in all races.

4. Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks.

5. Trans-Racial Adoption Studies. Race differences in IQ Remain following adoption by White middle class parents. East Asians grow to average higher IQs than Whites while Blacks score lower. The Minnesota Trans-Racial Adoption Study followed children to age 17 and found race differences were even greater than at age 7: White children, 106; Mixed-Race children, 99; and Black children, 89.

6. Racial Admixture Studies. Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores.
In South Africa, the IQ of the mixed-race "Colored" population averages 85, intermediate to the African 70 and White 100.

7. IQ Scores of Blacks and Whites Regress toward the Averages of Their Race. Parents pass on only some exceptional genes to offspring so parents with very high IQs tend to have more average children. Black and White children with parents of IQ 115 move to different averages--Blacks toward 85 and Whites to 100.

8. Race Differences in Other "Life-History" Traits. East Asians and Blacks consistently fall at two ends of a continuum with Whites intermediate on 60 measures of maturation, personality, reproduction, and social organization. For example, Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians.

9. Race Differences and the Out-of-Africa theory of Human Origins. East Asian-White-Black differences fit the theory that modern humans arose in Africa about 100,000 years ago and expanded northward. During prolonged winters there was evolutionary selection for higher IQ created by problems of raising children, gathering and storing food, gaining shelter, and making clothes.

10. Do Culture-Only Theories Explain the Data? Culture-only theories do not explain the highly consistent pattern of race differences in IQ, especially the East Asian data. No interventions such as ending segregation, introducing school busing, or "Head Start" programs have reduced the gaps as culture-only theory would predict.​

In their article, Rushton and Jensen also address some of the policy issues that stem from their conclusions. Their main recommendation is that people be treated as individuals, not as members of groups. They emphasized that their paper pertains only to average differences. They also called for the need to accurately inform the public about the true nature of individual and group differences, genetics and evolutionary biology.

Rushton and Jensen are well-known for research on racial differences in intelligence. Jensen hypothesized a genetic basis for Black-White IQ differences in his 1969 Harvard Educational Review article. His later books Bias in Mental Tests (1980) and The g Factor (1998), as well as Rushton's (1995) Race, Evolution, and Behavior, show that tests are not biased against English speaking minorities and that Black-White-East Asian differences in brain size and IQ belong in an evolutionary framewor

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[Godboy]

Yes, we all know about the IQ thing. Now what? What should we do with that information?

 

[abu afak]

Yes, we all know about the IQ thing. Now what? What should we do with that information?

Alas, we Do NOT "all know about it".
Many deny the gap exists and even deny there are groups/Races the gap exists between!
Many more/perhaps most, try and excuse away the gap as purely 'socioeconomic', which is tackled in the OP too.
So No, we don't "all know about it" or at least not admit it.
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[Godboy]

Yes, we all know about the IQ thing. Now what? What should we do with that information?

Alas, we Do NOT "all know about it".
Many deny the gap exists and even deny there are groups/Races the gap exists between!
But many/perhaps most try and excuse away the gap as socioeconomic, which is tackled in the OP too.
So your post is just completely wrong.
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Being dumb isn't the same as being bad. Dumb people succeed all the time... look at Sarah Palin. A slight difference in the average IQ isn't going to make or break any race. Besides, IQ is only part of being smart. There are people who may not have a high IQ, but they are brilliant at certain things. Street smarts or wisdom cant be quantified on a test like that either. I doubt most of the biggest earners in the US are even a genius level IQ anyway.

The point is, knowing these IQ scores don't help solve anything. The only purpose this thread serves is to demean black people, which is a useless endeavor. Ill take a dumb good guy over a smart shit stirrer any day.

 

[abu afak]

Yes, we all know about the IQ thing. Now what? What should we do with that information?

Alas, we Do NOT "all know about it".
Many deny the gap exists and even deny there are groups/Races the gap exists between!
But many/perhaps most try and excuse away the gap as socioeconomic, which is tackled in the OP too.
So your post is just completely wrong.
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Being dumb isn't the same as being bad. Dumb people succeed all the time... look at Sarah Palin. A slight difference in the average IQ isn't going to make or break any race. Besides, IQ is only part of being smart. There are people who may not have a high IQ, but they are brilliant at certain things. Street smarts or wisdom cant be quantified on a test like that either. I doubt most of the biggest earners in the US are even a genius level IQ anyway.

The point is, knowing these IQ scores don't help solve anything. The only purpose this thread serves is to demean black people, which is a useless endeavor. Ill take a dumb good guy over a smart shit stirrer any day.

So as I suspected, your last entry was merely to demean the string with a statement that was False and that you no longer can defend.
What you were wrong about in your last would alone be enough to demonstrate need for this string.

So now we get another version of your attempt to diminish a string you don't like by saying it doesn't really matter. Of course, this is the Race section and you need not respond to strings you consider irrelevant... after that is... you tried the 'everyone knows that' Lie/Dis attempt.
You are free to NOT participate.
And again, and of course, it does matter in explaining many social issues and could indeed change some public policy.
Policies like, but not limited to, Affirmative Action are discussed all the time in this country.
ie, Asians are a victim of AA.
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[Unkotare]

Race, Intelligence, and Genetics For Curious Dummies - Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Yes, we all know about the IQ thing. Now what? What should we do with that information?

We must end all race-based affirmative action. Black failure is their own fault. There is no conspiracy to hold down blacks.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

A slight difference in the average IQ isn't going to make or break any race. .

It's not slight, it's enormous.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The best argument for black mental inferiority is the state of africa. It is by far the most primitive and economically deprived continent on the planet. And it's not due to racism since all of black africa is now controlled by blacks. And that has simply made things worse.

Blacks can't do things. They don't become engineers or businessmen or scientists or administrators. They don't have the brains for those careers. All they can do is entertainment.

 

[Unkotare]

Blacks can't do things. They don't become engineers or businessmen or scientists or administrators. .

Which one are you, you fucking loser?

 

[Asclepias]

The best argument for black mental inferiority is the state of africa. It is by far the most primitive and economically deprived continent on the planet. And it's not due to racism since all of black africa is now controlled by blacks. And that has simply made things worse.

Blacks can't do things. They don't become engineers or businessmen or scientists or administrators. They don't have the brains for those careers. All they can do is entertainment.

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Black engineers. Black businessman. What now of your theory?

 

[Asclepias]

Check the degree in bio*engineering by the age of 19

Harvard Law School to graduate one of the youngest African-Americans in the school?s history - Metro - The Boston Globe

Newest Mensa Member.

Anala Beevers, 4-Year-old With 145 IQ, Becomes Mensa Member | News One

 

[Politico]

You hate black people we get it.

 

[007]

Check the degree in bio*engineering by the age of 19

Harvard Law School to graduate one of the youngest African-Americans in the school?s history - Metro - The Boston Globe

Newest Mensa Member.

Anala Beevers, 4-Year-old With 145 IQ, Becomes Mensa Member | News One

If these couple people you have cherry picked were indicative to all blacks, do you think Africa would still be the most primitive continent on earth? Do you think the poorest neighborhoods and slums in America would predominantly be inhabited by blacks? Wouldn't it be logical to deduce that if all blacks were this smart, then most black neighborhoods and countries would be the pillars of technological development and other scholarly deeds instead of violent, crime ridden slums and villages of mud huts?

 

[editec]

Assuming that intelligence is a genetic trait (seems obvious to me, too) begs the next:

SO WHAT?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Assuming that intelligence is a genetic trait (seems obvious to me, too) begs the next:

SO WHAT?

It means black failure is their own fault and affirmative action must end.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Check the degree in bio*engineering by the age of 19


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We all know about affirmative action. THINK

 

[Unkotare]

Race, Intelligence, and Genetics For Curious Dummies - Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic

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[Katzndogz]

We don't know whether education would improve among black people because we haven't given them an education yet. We've given them good grades instead of a good education.

In the Wizard of Oz the Scarecrow wanted brains. He wanted intelligence. He got a piece of paper that said he had intelligence. That's what we are doing to black people. We give them good grades and college degrees. They just don't know any more than if they had never gone in the first place.

 

[Asclepias]

Check the degree in bio*engineering by the age of 19

Harvard Law School to graduate one of the youngest African-Americans in the school?s history - Metro - The Boston Globe

Newest Mensa Member.

Anala Beevers, 4-Year-old With 145 IQ, Becomes Mensa Member | News One

If these couple people you have cherry picked were indicative to all blacks, do you think Africa would still be the most primitive continent on earth? Do you think the poorest neighborhoods and slums in America would predominantly be inhabited by blacks? Wouldn't it be logical to deduce that if all blacks were this smart, then most black neighborhoods and countries would be the pillars of technological development and other scholarly deeds instead of violent, crime ridden slums and villages of mud huts?

Do you want some more to drive the point home? I can't post a picture of every Black person so I just posted a couple of examples off the top of my head that kills the puerile genetic theory. What paleolithic thinking like yours does is miss the most glaring hole in the genetic theory. Intelligence has very little to do with achievement. Intelligence is native. Example. Can I learn that if I touch the fire it will burn me? Achievement needs several very important factors like motivation, information, and opportunity. Motivation is within and under a persons control. Information (the right kind) and opportunity is in the hands of the oppressor.

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