Question.Can Anyone Name A State That Will Vote To Give Up Thier Leagal Firearms?

[2aguy]

Although Blue States in general vote for Democrats no matter how it affects the economy of thier state.But overall,lets say most households have guns for protection reasons.And now we have Liberals asking us to vote to take away thier guns.So are there any red or purple states out there who will gladly vote to give up thier guns?

California, New York, Massachusettes, Maryland.....they are already on the way to do it...throw in Oregon where they are trying to get a ballot initiative banning all semi auto rifles, pistols and shotguns.......

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Pre-existing individual right. Thus, "the right of the people".

 

[2aguy]

Fuck the NRA. I am a member of NAAGA.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

 

[Asclepias]

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Pre-existing individual right. Thus, "the right of the people".

What about that right is pre-existing?

 

[2aguy]

I'm not sure there is an effort for any state to give up their guns. That's just more NRA propaganda. There are hopes to regulate who buys certain guns, or even the possibility of limiting which guns are manufactured, but widespread confiscation is just bullshit. I don't care where you heard it.

No...it isn't bullshit...it is just a matter of how much political power they have....that is why they want registration now, so that later they can ban and confiscate without warning anyone so they can hide their guns...

 

[Asclepias]

Fuck the NRA. I am a member of NAAGA.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Fuck the NRA. NAAGA supports me in my gun ownership.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What about that right is pre-existing?

English common law, for one.

 

[2aguy]

It will eventually be about the supreme court. It will eventually get a majority of marxists. They will "interpret" or REINTERPRET the 2nd amendment.

Which is why we have to keep the Senate in republican hands, and Trump in office...ginsburg can only hold out so long, and kennedy is almost on the way out too...

 

[Asclepias]

I'm not sure there is an effort for any state to give up their guns. That's just more NRA propaganda. There are hopes to regulate who buys certain guns, or even the possibility of limiting which guns are manufactured, but widespread confiscation is just bullshit. I don't care where you heard it.

No...it isn't bullshit...it is just a matter of how much political power they have....that is why they want registration now, so that later they can ban and confiscate without warning anyone so they can hide their guns...

You sound like a paranoid idiot. With the internet how fast do you think the word would get out that they were confiscating guns?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Fuck the NRA. NAAGA supports me in my gun ownership.

Then, I will support the NAAGA.

 

[2aguy]

Fuck the NRA. I am a member of NAAGA.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Fuck the NRA. NAAGA supports me in my gun ownership.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

 

[Asclepias]

What about that right is pre-existing?

English common law, for one.

You mean the human english?

 

[2aguy]

It will eventually be about the supreme court. It will eventually get a majority of marxists. They will "interpret" or REINTERPRET the 2nd amendment.

It would be pretty easy to reinterpret since the second part of the statement clearly depends on the first part.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Read D.C. v. Heller, they explain the 2nd Amendment and it's wording so that even someone like you can understand it...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

California maybe!

There are probably more guns in cali than any state in the union besides texas.

Maybe so. However, California is a very blue state. It there are more anti-gunners than gunners, then the state could vote to give up guns....if that pesky 2nd amendment weren’t in the way.

And if Grandma had balls, she would be Grandpa. Only an idiot would think that might happen. Most people don't oppose gun ownership. They oppose gun ownership by idiots.

Which is every gun owner according to some and if you deny this then you deny reality.

Look, there is a faction in America that want this country government to repeal the Second Amendment and adopt gun laws like Norway, and usually they are the same individual that studied some liberal arts major and believe society owes them something.

So let not pretend there is no movement on the fringe left to abolish the Second Amendment but I am realistic and know the left lack the votes in the Senate and the States to repeal that Amendment so this discussion is moot.

There is no credible effort to do that. There is no possibility that will happen. You are more childish than a kid worrying about a monster under the bed.

Wow, I just said it is impossible and here you come with your typical response!

So you deny the fact that there are fringers wanting to repeal the Second Amendment?

If so then you are either lying or just playing stupid!

Also the Florida school shooting along with the Club shooting could have been prevented but were not, so use the damn laws on the books and stop asking for more!

The truth is you are the kind that would prefer to rip the Constitution up when it does not fit your agenda in life, so let me write that!

Also it is the ignorance of those like you that believe Mass shootings and gun violence is out of control when I have a better chance of dying because those like you do not obey traffic laws than being killed by some mass shooter.

So let cut the nonsense and also go fuck yourself for your comment because I am not the one wanting more laws that will not do jack shit except give you the false sense of security!

 

[Asclepias]

Fuck the NRA. I am a member of NAAGA.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Fuck the NRA. NAAGA supports me in my gun ownership.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Fuck the NRA. NAAGA supports me in my gun ownership.

 

[Asclepias]

It will eventually be about the supreme court. It will eventually get a majority of marxists. They will "interpret" or REINTERPRET the 2nd amendment.

It would be pretty easy to reinterpret since the second part of the statement clearly depends on the first part.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Read D.C. v. Heller, they explain the 2nd Amendment and it's wording so that even someone like you can understand it...

I understand it fine. I dont accept DC v Heller. Its just someones opinion.

"
Henderson's dissent

In her dissent, Circuit Judge Henderson stated that Second Amendment rights did not extend to residents of Washington D.C., writing:

To sum up, there is no dispute that the Constitution, case law and applicable statutes all establish that the District is not a State within the meaning of the Second Amendment. Under United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. at 178, the Second Amendment's declaration and guarantee that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" relates to the Militia of the States only. That the Second Amendment does not apply to the District, then, is, to me, an unavoidable conclusion.
"

 

[Theowl32]

It will eventually be about the supreme court. It will eventually get a majority of marxists. They will "interpret" or REINTERPRET the 2nd amendment.

Which is why we have to keep the Senate in republican hands, and Trump in office...ginsburg can only hold out so long, and kennedy is almost on the way out too...

Unfortunately until we get TERM LIMITS on senators, it will matter little as far as long term. Besides, as I have stated a few times, blackmail is how Washington runs. Remember John Roberts was a Bush appointee and he was supposed to be on the right. Well, socialist care is a result of his ruling. That, is what blackmail does. What did they get him on? We will more than likely never know.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You mean the human english?

Our founders were Brits before Americans. They adopted lots of common law. One was the right to own arms. But, it is also a natural right.

The 2nd Amendment was intended to limit the powers of Congress in legislating or regulating guns. It was supposed to be a power reserved by the States.

But, we have allowed it to go so long that it's all fucked up now.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I understand it fine. I dont accept DC v Heller. Its just someones opinion.

I don't like that opinion for a different reason.

Scalia was chicken shit. He was afraid of the ramifications of declaring the 2nd Amendment an outright limit on Congressional power, because suddenly, all Federal gun laws would be unconstitutional (which they should be). He was scared of the chaos he would cause by doing the right thing.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Question.Can Anyone Name A State That Will Vote To Give Up Thier [sic] Leagal [sic] Firearms?

I would name such a state "Tranquility".

It would feature what we call "Peace".

Yeah because criminals wouldn't want to break the laws of your "Tranquility" by have firearms.