JimofPennsylvan
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This Thursday's President Biden's Speech about the spate of mass shootings the nation is seeing and needed gun regulation was an error was an error by a President that is not top notch. What the nation needs is common sense gun regulation legislation that is going to require legislating skill of threading a needle; this speech by the President did not advance the cause it was offensive to Republicans, it was partisan in its policy promotion and on a couple of issues it was just advocating bad policy. The Republican base is going to see and here about this speech and they will be clamoring to the Republicans in Congress don't work with these guys they have a bad agenda on the Second Amendment. Biden should have kept his mouth shut publicly on this issue and let the Bipartisan Senate negotiators complete their task and behind the scenes offering any support that would be helpful, if the negotiators failed then he could deliver his sermon from the White House. President Biden's fumbling of the ball here makes one wonder what is President Biden's system for how he governs. Prudent Presidents have a kitchen Cabinet with two to five members that they vet or run by major things before they do them. If you were to give this Speech to a bunch of Political Science majors that just graduated from college the majority of them would say this is a bad idea to give this speech this will alienate Republicans toward you on this issue; kitchen cabinets don't always get it right but at least they stop Presidents from acting clearly stupid!
President Biden in his Speech criticized the Republicans for letting the assault weapon ban expire in 2004. Hey Joe how about dropping your double standard here, the Democrats had the White House and both chambers of Congress in 2009 and didn't reinstate the ban. Might it be Joe that the NRA and those Americans that hold the 2nd Amendment dear generate great fear amongst Congressional Office Holders of both parties on gun regulation matters. Joe your Policies on taking away gun manufacturers legal immunity isn't bipartisan at all in fact it is atrociously bad policy. Gun manufacturers aren't negligent here it is the shooters that are the bad guys and the sole bad guys here. The only thing that the incredibly stupid and irresponsible policy of removing tort immunity from gun manufacturers is going to bring is that the price of guns will skyrocket as plaintiff lawyers have a field day extracting humongous judgments from these manufactures, plus, it will promulgate illegal sales of gun bigtime as black market sales of foreign made guns sky rocket as gun buyers in America see this purchase avenue the only means to get an affordable gun which will burden our already overburdened law enforcement system. President Biden wants to have Federal safe storage laws he wants to make gun owners criminally and civilly liable if they fail to lock up their gun. Does it ever occur to you Joe that good policy includes not making good law abiding citizens criminals. Good people make mistakes they forget things the Federal government doesn't need to get into this area, they should let states handle this problem and states should just make it a summary offense for failing to store one's gun properly unless someone gets significantly physically hurt by the mistake then it should be a misdemeanor.
At this juncture if the bipartisan effort in the Senate fails. President Biden should have an ally in the Senate and the House enter a bill in their respective chamber called the Common Sense Gun Control Legislation To Respond to Out Of Control Gun Violence in America - this bill will only contain four policies that the vast majority of Americans, Americans heavily representing both parties, support. It will contain policy provisions that ban assault rifles (largely that mirrors the 1994 law), that bans high capacity magazines, that closes the gun show and internet purchases loop holes for background checks and that stops the automatic approval if the background check is not completed within three days but rather lets gun sellers use an approved list by the respective federal agencies of internet companies that do automatic background check to do the checking it won't be as good as the FBI system but the public systems are pretty good at identifying a person's criminal record history. Lastly, the bill should have red flag provisions that flag people that are at high risk of using guns in a violent manner and mirror these provisions after the Manchin/Toomey bill provisions in this area. With this bill, President Biden and Democrats members of Congress can not only show the public what they support and would make law it would force many Republicans to support the bill because it is impossible to defend against not supporting in districts and states where the majority of people are reasonable on this issue.
One last point, I am an advocate for keeping the sixty vote threshold for ending a filibuster in the Senate and bringing up a bill for votes. But the Republicans using this protection in our nation's legislating apparatus to prevent legislation the vast majority of the nation support is an abuse of this vital protection for our nation. The critical purpose of the sixty vote threshold is a recognition that passing laws in America is a very serious business it often has profound impact on many Americans it is a recognition that significant bills should not become laws in America unless they have broad consensus. Common Sense Gun Regulation like the aforementioned has long had broad bi-partisan support across the country. As long as the bill was a consensus bill like that outlined and there was a guarantee that there would be no partisan or bad amendments brought up for a vote on the bill, it is completely wrong and disgraceful for Republicans not to vote to end the filibuster and bring the bill up for a vote. Of course these Republicans should not vote for passage on the bill if it bothers their conscience but they are not doing their job to use the filibusters to block the vote on such a bill, America doesn't have a supermajority vote requirement to pass bills through Congress the Constitution only requires a majority, Republican members of Congress should let America's democracy work on this issue!
President Biden in his Speech criticized the Republicans for letting the assault weapon ban expire in 2004. Hey Joe how about dropping your double standard here, the Democrats had the White House and both chambers of Congress in 2009 and didn't reinstate the ban. Might it be Joe that the NRA and those Americans that hold the 2nd Amendment dear generate great fear amongst Congressional Office Holders of both parties on gun regulation matters. Joe your Policies on taking away gun manufacturers legal immunity isn't bipartisan at all in fact it is atrociously bad policy. Gun manufacturers aren't negligent here it is the shooters that are the bad guys and the sole bad guys here. The only thing that the incredibly stupid and irresponsible policy of removing tort immunity from gun manufacturers is going to bring is that the price of guns will skyrocket as plaintiff lawyers have a field day extracting humongous judgments from these manufactures, plus, it will promulgate illegal sales of gun bigtime as black market sales of foreign made guns sky rocket as gun buyers in America see this purchase avenue the only means to get an affordable gun which will burden our already overburdened law enforcement system. President Biden wants to have Federal safe storage laws he wants to make gun owners criminally and civilly liable if they fail to lock up their gun. Does it ever occur to you Joe that good policy includes not making good law abiding citizens criminals. Good people make mistakes they forget things the Federal government doesn't need to get into this area, they should let states handle this problem and states should just make it a summary offense for failing to store one's gun properly unless someone gets significantly physically hurt by the mistake then it should be a misdemeanor.
At this juncture if the bipartisan effort in the Senate fails. President Biden should have an ally in the Senate and the House enter a bill in their respective chamber called the Common Sense Gun Control Legislation To Respond to Out Of Control Gun Violence in America - this bill will only contain four policies that the vast majority of Americans, Americans heavily representing both parties, support. It will contain policy provisions that ban assault rifles (largely that mirrors the 1994 law), that bans high capacity magazines, that closes the gun show and internet purchases loop holes for background checks and that stops the automatic approval if the background check is not completed within three days but rather lets gun sellers use an approved list by the respective federal agencies of internet companies that do automatic background check to do the checking it won't be as good as the FBI system but the public systems are pretty good at identifying a person's criminal record history. Lastly, the bill should have red flag provisions that flag people that are at high risk of using guns in a violent manner and mirror these provisions after the Manchin/Toomey bill provisions in this area. With this bill, President Biden and Democrats members of Congress can not only show the public what they support and would make law it would force many Republicans to support the bill because it is impossible to defend against not supporting in districts and states where the majority of people are reasonable on this issue.
One last point, I am an advocate for keeping the sixty vote threshold for ending a filibuster in the Senate and bringing up a bill for votes. But the Republicans using this protection in our nation's legislating apparatus to prevent legislation the vast majority of the nation support is an abuse of this vital protection for our nation. The critical purpose of the sixty vote threshold is a recognition that passing laws in America is a very serious business it often has profound impact on many Americans it is a recognition that significant bills should not become laws in America unless they have broad consensus. Common Sense Gun Regulation like the aforementioned has long had broad bi-partisan support across the country. As long as the bill was a consensus bill like that outlined and there was a guarantee that there would be no partisan or bad amendments brought up for a vote on the bill, it is completely wrong and disgraceful for Republicans not to vote to end the filibuster and bring the bill up for a vote. Of course these Republicans should not vote for passage on the bill if it bothers their conscience but they are not doing their job to use the filibusters to block the vote on such a bill, America doesn't have a supermajority vote requirement to pass bills through Congress the Constitution only requires a majority, Republican members of Congress should let America's democracy work on this issue!
