Psychiatry is a hoax

[ObligationLaunch]

yep, all based on fraud and a LOT of imagination.

 

[S.J.]

I knew a guy who was a psychologist and he was a class a jerk. He picked apart everyone he met and tried to pry into their lives. Ironic as hell because he was one of the most screwed up people I'd ever met. His previous occupation was undertaker. Said he became a psychologist because he wanted to understand himself better. That's all I wanted to hear. So long, buddy.

 

[midcan5]

"The goal of Psychoanalysis is to convert neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." Philosophy of Mind professor

While I agree a little, I have found that many Americans need psychiatry, if not as a cure as a drug supplier. Some lonely souls find solace in conversation or even in therapy - or even in Donald Trump diatribes. lol - In America the poor use the pusher the rich the doctor. I know so many people on SSRIs etc it blows my mind.

The Six Most Interesting Psychology Papers of 2015 - The New Yorker

"Life will break you. Nobody can protect you from that, and living alone won't either, for solitude will also break you with its yearning. You have to love. You have to feel. It is the reason you are here on earth. You are here to risk your heart. You are here to be swallowed up. And when it happens that you are broken, or betrayed, or left, or hurt, or death brushes near, let yourself sit by an apple tree and listen to the apples falling all around you in heaps, wasting their sweetness. Tell yourself that you tasted as many as you could." Louise Erdrich 'The Painted Drum'

 

[ObligationLaunch]

well, allright but there is no such thing as a mental ilness as definied by psychiatrist. Like in the DSM-bibles (V is the latest now, I think)
Of course there are people having troubles, difficulty coping and what have you.

But what I mean to say that a real psychiatric illness is non-existent.

Hence the psychiatric pills are there only for money! Because there is
nothing to cure with a psychiatric pill!

And I am not the one saying that. No, the 'experts' in the field are saying this.

 

[ZackB]

This is the biggest load of bullshit. Psychiatric conditions are real and many time result from chemical imbalances. There are both psychiatric problems that have biological origins and there are emotional problems that may have environmental origins, and there are combinations thereof, with varying degrees of each. Some require counsel for treat, and some do not. Some require medication in order to improve and maintain quality of life, among other things.

How about this: go ask a person diagnosed with clinical depression if his or her life was better or worse prior to being effectively treated with medication.

The op is pure tripe. Hopefully this is self apparent to all.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I knew a guy who was a psychologist and he was a class a jerk. He picked apart everyone he met and tried to pry into their lives. Ironic as hell because he was one of the most screwed up people I'd ever met. His previous occupation was undertaker. Said he became a psychologist because he wanted to understand himself better. That's all I wanted to hear. So long, buddy.

It's no wonder they have a high suicide rate.
Why Shrinks Have Problems

 

[Bonzi]

Some are good.

But counseling only works if you are willing to do work at changing yourself.
A psychologist or psychiatrist is simply a life coach. They suggest things, you do them or not. YOU are the one doing the work.
You could buy a book about your "issue" and get the same results, as long as you are willing to TRY what is suggested to "fix" you.

If you are looking for a quick fix, go to your MD and get pills.

 

[ZackB]

I knew a guy who was a psychologist and he was a class a jerk. He picked apart everyone he met and tried to pry into their lives. Ironic as hell because he was one of the most screwed up people I'd ever met. His previous occupation was undertaker. Said he became a psychologist because he wanted to understand himself better. That's all I wanted to hear. So long, buddy.

I had this smoking hot psychology prof in undergrad school. She had a practice and taught some advanced courses. I was a poly sci major but decided to take her course called "Death and Dying", mainly because she was hot and I was into hardcore death metal at the time and the subject matter sounded right up my alley. I hung out and chatted with her a few times after class. One time the topic, at my direction, turned to the psychological makeup of psychologists and psychiatrists. She agreed that they are generally some pretty fucked up people, especially the ones in psychology. Yes, this is only anecdotal, but it is still probative of the proposition that a lot of these folks are fucking nuts.

 

[ZackB]

Some are good.

But counseling only works if you are willing to do work at changing yourself.
A psychologist or psychiatrist is simply a life coach. They suggest things, you do them or not. YOU are the one doing the work.
You could buy a book about your "issue" and get the same results, as long as you are willing to TRY what is suggested to "fix" you.

If you are looking for a quick fix, go to your MD and get pills.

A psychiatrist is an MD who can prescribe meds. They usually stick to the medical side of things and get a psychologist/counselor to do the therapy sessions, but not always.

 

[Bonzi]

Some are good.

But counseling only works if you are willing to do work at changing yourself.
A psychologist or psychiatrist is simply a life coach. They suggest things, you do them or not. YOU are the one doing the work.
You could buy a book about your "issue" and get the same results, as long as you are willing to TRY what is suggested to "fix" you.

If you are looking for a quick fix, go to your MD and get pills.

A psychiatrist is an MD who can prescribe meds. They usually stick to the medical side of things and get a psychologist/counselor to do the therapy sessions, but not always.

You can still get good drugs from your GP.

 

[ZackB]

Some are good.

But counseling only works if you are willing to do work at changing yourself.
A psychologist or psychiatrist is simply a life coach. They suggest things, you do them or not. YOU are the one doing the work.
You could buy a book about your "issue" and get the same results, as long as you are willing to TRY what is suggested to "fix" you.

If you are looking for a quick fix, go to your MD and get pills.

A psychiatrist is an MD who can prescribe meds. They usually stick to the medical side of things and get a psychologist/counselor to do the therapy sessions, but not always.

You can still get good drugs from your GP.

Yep.

 

[ObligationLaunch]

Some are good.

But counseling only works if you are willing to do work at changing yourself.
A psychologist or psychiatrist is simply a life coach. They suggest things, you do them or not. YOU are the one doing the work.
You could buy a book about your "issue" and get the same results, as long as you are willing to TRY what is suggested to "fix" you.

If you are looking for a quick fix, go to your MD and get pills.

I agree but that is not what I am talking about now.

I am talking about prescribing psychiatric drugs only as a cure by
psychiatrist/

I have seen psychiatrist diagnosing someone they have never seen before, in twenty minutes or less. and then they describe a 'drug"

And I agree about the mental state of psychiatrist and psychologist.
A lot of them seem to be very narcisstic or psychopathic.

 

[Bonzi]

Every counselor I have been to seems bored. And repetitive.

I'm like really, you're getting paid $100 and hour and you're yawning? Nah, not for me.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

yep, all based on fraud and a LOT of imagination.

It didn't work on you, eh?

Some things are just broken beyond repair, I guess.

 

[Bonzi]

with people, it's more a matter of want to...... anyone can change anything

 

[ObligationLaunch]

Psychiatric conditions are real and many time result from chemical imbalances. There are both psychiatric problems that have biological origins and there are emotional problems that may have environmental origins, .

That is the thing, mate.

There is NO CHEMICAL IMBALANCE at all!

There is NOT ONE SINGLE PROOF OF THIS!

(And besides that even if there was, wat is the cause and what is the effect?)

So, To be clear, I am not saying that there no people with emotional problems. Of course there are.

But a psychiatric drug is not the solution at all!

I even dare to say that that is very very dangerous.
(and especially for kids! ritalin and prozac comes to mind)


And those DSM Bibles are all imagined.

 

[Bonzi]

yeah well no one believes we are all nuts... most money making ventures are scams.... life is like The Sting

 

[ObligationLaunch]

yep, all based on fraud and a LOT of imagination.

It didn't work on you, eh?

Some things are just broken beyond repair, I guess.

And why are you saying this?

 

[Bonzi]

well anyone need help with a problem, come to me.

I promise I can make you forget about them. I have references as well....

 

[ZackB]

yep, all based on fraud and a LOT of imagination.

It didn't work on you, eh?

Some things are just broken beyond repair, I guess.

And why are you saying this?

Because you seem to be taking this personally.