Prophecy Clarified

[rtwngAvngr]

My broad understanding is this, according bible prophecy; The EU, led by the antichrist will invade The holy lands. a Russian, Muslim World, and alien army, led by an alien, will invade the holy lands. The jews will be persecuted, again. The Catholic Church will fall and after that, the leader of the EU will be revealed as the anti christ. Satan himself will inhabit the antichrist and will do battle with jesus. The faithful shall be taken unto god before the horror starts, others may be saved, but only later. There will be years of peace and stability. More destruction. God wins. The End?

For any of you who have seen t2: Remember the scene where she's carving "No Fate" on the picnic table at the school? Is there fate?

My instinct would be to stop the ascent of the euroweenie socialist empire to global dominance, seeing as they've recently revealed to be operating from not much more than a blatantly antiamerican agenda. Are we to try?

Where is the U.S. in all this? Defeated before the story starts? That pisses me off, and it's not happening. Not if there's anything I can do about it.

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[freeandfun1]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
My broad understanding is this, according bible prophecy; The EU, led by the antichrist will invade The holy lands. a Russian, Muslim World, and alien army, led by an alien, will invade the holy lands. The jews will be persecuted, again. The Catholic Church will fall and after that, the leader of the EU will be revealed as the anti christ. Satan himself will inhabit the antichrist and will do battle with jesus. The faithful shall be taken unto god before the horror starts, others may be saved, but only later. There will be years of peace and stability. More destruction. God wins. The End?

For any of you who have seen t2: Remember the scene where she's carving "No Fate" on the picnic table at the school? Is there fate?

My instinct would be to stop the ascent of the euroweenie socialist empire to global dominance, seeing as they've recently revealed to be operating from not much more than a blatantly antiamerican agenda. Are we to try?

Where is the U.S. in all this? Defeated before the story starts? That pisses me off, and it's not happening. Not if there's anything I can do about it.

Rock The Vote!
Bush/Cheney 2004!

You understand it partially, some of it even I am not sure about. I have seen stories bout the "aliens" actually being bad angels "demons" that were cast out of heaven with Satan. The Sethites are who they are supposed to be. In the Bible it says that in the end times, the world will be as it was before Noah. Some believe that the "demons" in the time of Noah tried to breed with the humans so that the Son of God (Jesus) could not be used to save all humans as once they mixed, there would no longer be any pure humans and that is why God detroyed the world. Some believe that they will try this again and that we will think they are aliens when in reality they are demons.

As for the USA, it is pretty much a concensus that we will be a non-player. Many believe this is so as many of our leaders and residents will be called in the Rapture therefore, not leaving much left behind but chaos. Others believe that we will be a non-player either due to major disasters that strike us or because of a financial collapse.

But keep reading! You are starting to get the message.

BTW: One thing that will happen before the rapture and will be a major indicator that "the end truly is near" is that Damascus will be destroyed and nothing will be able to inhabit her. Sounds like Damascus could be nuked. That then leads to the 7 year peace treaty that starts the Tribulations. If the USA takes part in nuking Syria because of WMD's or such, that is what could push us into being a non-player. The rest of the world would likely then turn their backs on us......

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by freeandfun1
You understand it partially, some of it even I am not sure about. I have seen stories bout the "aliens" actually being bad angels "demons" that were cast out of heaven with Satan. The Sethites are who they are supposed to be. In the Bible it says that in the end times, the world will be as it was before Noah. Some believe that the "demons" in the time of Noah tried to breed with the humans so that the Son of God (Jesus) could not be used to save all humans as once they mixed, there would no longer be any pure humans and that is why God detroyed the world. Some believe that they will try this again and that we will think they are aliens when in reality they are demons.

As for the USA, it is pretty much a concensus that we will be a non-player. Many believe this is so as many of our leaders and residents will be called in the Rapture therefore, not leaving much left behind but chaos. Others believe that we will be a non-player either due to major disasters that strike us or because of a financial collapse.


But keep reading! You are starting to get the message.

BTW: One thing that will happen before the rapture and will be a major indicator that "the end truly is near" is that Damascus will be destroyed and nothing will be able to inhabit her. Sounds like Damascus could be nuked. That then leads to the 7 year peace treaty that starts the Tribulations. If the USA takes part in nuking Syria because of WMD's or such, that is what could push us into being a non-player. The rest of the world would likely then turn their backs on us......

Dang----we nuke somebody and fall into the "non-player" category. What a rip off!

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Hmm. That sucks. Although I guess If I get taken unto to god that will be cool. I wanted to save the world though.

 

[dilloduck]

I guess all we get to do is sit back and watch. So much for free will.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

"No Fate"

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
My broad understanding is this, according bible prophecy; The EU, led by the antichrist will invade The holy lands.

Yup.

a Russian, Muslim World, and alien army, led by an alien, will invade the holy lands.

I am not sure what you are referring to here, this could be the Gog-Magog war and not the main antichrist method of operation.

The jews will be persecuted, again. The Catholic Church will fall and after that, the leader of the EU will be revealed as the anti christ.

It isn't only the catholic church specifically, but they DO play an incredibly overwhelming part in the one-world religion as most of the "religious" base of beliefs. The antichrist will be worshipped through being promoted by a false prophet and the catholic church will be directly responsible for steering his direction --much like they were able to bring hitler to power.

Satan himself will inhabit the antichrist and will do battle with jesus. The faithful shall be taken unto god before the horror starts, others may be saved, but only later.

Others may be saved later as they come to Jesus as lord and savior. There will not be one on the planet directly after rapture.

There will be years of peace and stability. More destruction. God wins. The End?

No. Satan rises again after a thousand more years to try again and will then ultimately be defeated once and for all. This will be the final judgement.

For any of you who have seen t2: Remember the scene where she's carving "No Fate" on the picnic table at the school? Is there fate?

Yes. It is written by inferrence that we have free will to choose our ways of going through life, and ultimately chosing if we "win" or "lose". -But, like a chess match between a first time player and Gary Kasperov, the outcome is a given and whichever choice you make will determine the circumstances in which the game is won or lost. -Although the outcome will be the same.

In a sense, you have only the free will to do what you want within the given parameters of total outcome. BUT YOU DO HAVE THE CHOICE.

My instinct would be to stop the ascent of the euroweenie socialist empire to global dominance, seeing as they've recently revealed to be operating from not much more than a blatantly antiamerican agenda. Are we to try?

It would be against God's word to not accept proper stewardship and respoinsibility for defending what He has given us, and also the spread of His word. In essence, we are doomed to ultimate failure but called to do the work. -And we will be rewarded for our efforts in the end.

Where is the U.S. in all this? Defeated before the story starts?

Either that or completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

That pisses me off, and it's not happening. Not if there's anything I can do about it.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Hmm. That sucks. Although I guess If I get taken unto to god that will be cool. I wanted to save the world though.

You still could, you get to help run things when He rules on Earth, -Which is BEFORE Satan gets released his last time to try to subvert us again. -And if I remember correctly, you WILL have a highly capable body replacing the wimpy one we have now.

Imagine being able to teleport and walk on water.

 

[dilloduck]

Free will within certain parameters?? Did God say this or is this your interpretation again?

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by dilloduck
Free will within certain parameters?? Did God say this or is this your interpretation again?

If you are going to be a wanker with every post, does it matter?

 

[dilloduck]

I'm a wanker for asking a question ?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by NewGuy
You still could, you get to help run things when He rules on Earth, -Which is BEFORE Satan gets released his last time to try to subvert us again. -And if I remember correctly, you WILL have a highly capable body replacing the wimpy one we have now.

Imagine being able to teleport and walk on water.

Are you trying to tempt me?

 

[freeandfun1]

Originally posted by dilloduck
Free will within certain parameters?? Did God say this or is this your interpretation again?

I believe that Free Will applies mostly to which path we choose.... good, or evil, Christ or not. Not on how the world will end. It is written the world will end not because God wants it to do so, but because no matter how good the intentions of you or I, too many will choose the path of Evil therefore, we alone cannot change things.

I guess what God is saying is that we have a democracy on earth and our candidates are Christ or Satan and, unfortunately, the majority will choose satan so he has no choice but to cleanse the earth!

 

[dilloduck]

A very tough sell this religion must be ! You get a choice to choose between good or evil. Whichever one you choose, God will destroy the world anyway because most people are evil. I'm fully aware of my mortality so you say that my only chance of being immortal is to fight a losing battle on the side of "right" ?

 

[freeandfun1]

Would it be better to die right or wrong?

Also, God promises those that choose 'good' eternal life. Don't get caught up in the life you live now and think about what could be!

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by dilloduck
I'm a wanker for asking a question ?

Almost every post you make when I am involved, you make an insult toward my character. Until you prove otherwise, what do you expect?

 

[freeandfun1]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Almost every post you make when I am involved, you make an insult toward my character. Until you prove otherwise, what do you expect?

NewGuy.... try not to be so sensitive.... I know trying to 'educate' the masses can be trying, but use your faith and inner strength to keep up the good work! You are reaching many more than you realize I am sure, so don't let pride interfere with the more important message of Christ.....

Sorry if you feel I am "calling you out" here, but I believe your insight and knowledge are important and needs to be shared with ALL.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Are you trying to tempt me?

:

Nice inferrence. -And I didn't miss it at all.

Nope, you already have your mind made up. I am merely trying to point out there is more to it than what you have read so far.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by dilloduck
A very tough sell this religion must be ! You get a choice to choose between good or evil. Whichever one you choose, God will destroy the world anyway because most people are evil. I'm fully aware of my mortality so you say that my only chance of being immortal is to fight a losing battle on the side of "right" ?

No, it is to accept Christ as having payed the ultimate price for your sins and that he has payed the debt you owe. As such, get to know Him and accept His gift. Just the acceptance gives you salvation. The following is a measure of your faith IN Him.

 

[dmp]

Originally posted by dilloduck
Free will within certain parameters?? Did God say this or is this your interpretation again?

God knowing something will happen, and 'making it happen' are two different things. We are indeed free to choose our paths. God has set consequence for those choices. But the path we choose is still ours.