PLYMCO_PILGRIM
Gold Member
I'm talking to Dogbert, Article_15, and StrollingBones specifically here. If anyone else wants to chime in feel free but i'm truly interested in the opinion of those 3 forum members each for different reasons.
I'm willing to listen just present me with the proof, your reasoning, and anything else you can to convince me it is "torture". Please provide your definition of torture too so I can consider your thoughts in perspective.
Please dont deflect and ask me to prove how it is torture as i'm not 100% sure that it is. Just provide me with your reasoning so I can make up my mind on this subject.
And if anyone is curious as to why I asked those 3 it is basically because they feel strongly that it is (at least in their postings) and I have a lot of respect for them as individuals.
DEFINITION OF WATERBOARDING:
Waterboarding as it is currently described involves strapping a person to an inclined board, with his feet raised and his head lowered. The interrogators bind the person's arms and legs so he can't move at all, and they cover his face. In some descriptions, the person is gagged, and some sort of cloth covers his nose and mouth; in others, his face is wrapped in cellophane. The interrogator then repeatedly pours water onto the person's face. Depending on the exact setup, the water may or may not actually get into the person's mouth and nose; but the physical experience of being underneath a wave of water seems to be secondary to the psychological experience. The person's mind believes he is drowning, and his gag reflex kicks in as if he were choking on all that water falling on his face.
Definition of Torture:
StrollingBones' definition provided to me by her "Torture is defined under the federal criminal code as the intentional infliction of severe mental pain or suffering"
I'm willing to listen just present me with the proof, your reasoning, and anything else you can to convince me it is "torture". Please provide your definition of torture too so I can consider your thoughts in perspective.
Please dont deflect and ask me to prove how it is torture as i'm not 100% sure that it is. Just provide me with your reasoning so I can make up my mind on this subject.
And if anyone is curious as to why I asked those 3 it is basically because they feel strongly that it is (at least in their postings) and I have a lot of respect for them as individuals.
DEFINITION OF WATERBOARDING:
Waterboarding as it is currently described involves strapping a person to an inclined board, with his feet raised and his head lowered. The interrogators bind the person's arms and legs so he can't move at all, and they cover his face. In some descriptions, the person is gagged, and some sort of cloth covers his nose and mouth; in others, his face is wrapped in cellophane. The interrogator then repeatedly pours water onto the person's face. Depending on the exact setup, the water may or may not actually get into the person's mouth and nose; but the physical experience of being underneath a wave of water seems to be secondary to the psychological experience. The person's mind believes he is drowning, and his gag reflex kicks in as if he were choking on all that water falling on his face.
Definition of Torture:
StrollingBones' definition provided to me by her "Torture is defined under the federal criminal code as the intentional infliction of severe mental pain or suffering"
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