Pro-Choice on abortion but not on medical care...Is that the official position of the Democrat Party?

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Actually, with infectious disease it isn’t just YOUR body either.

So, I guess the vaccine does not work then, right?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

If HIV could be easily spread by casual airborne contact people who had it would have to be quarantined. Why do you people suck so badly at making comparisons?

Butbutbutbut masks!

 

[Colin norris]

Or is there different spin for it?
Are there any of you Dems on this board who believe one should have the right to choose medical care without persecution?

The question makes no sense.

 

[Coyote]

So, I guess the vaccine does not work then, right?

I don’t think you understand much about how vaccines work and public health.

NO vaccines are 100%. No one ever claimed that.

What we need to keep in mind is that all of the vaccines, although very effective, are not perfect,” says Edward Jones-Lopez, an infectious disease doctor at Keck Medicine at the University of Southern California, of the Covid vaccines available in the United States and Europe. “There are still cases of Covid occurring despite the vaccinations.”

Even the measles vaccine, which is incredibly effective, fails to protect about 3 percent of vaccinated individuals who are exposed to the virus. Jonas Salk's polio vaccine—hailed a medical miracle—was 80 percent to 90 percent effective at preventing paralysis caused by the polio virus. Breakthrough infections of flu are even more common. While the exact effectiveness of the flu vaccine fluctuates year-to-year, it ranges between 40 percent and 60 percent.

Measles and polio breakthrough infections aren't just rare because the vaccines are so effective but also because those who are vaccinated rarely interact with infected people. Even with highly effective vaccines for Covid-19, breakthrough infections are likely to keep happening because the virus is so widespread.

The important point Is that if you are vaccinated, you are far less likely to get if exposed and far far less likely to be hospitalized or die from it. The risks of that are much much higher than any risk of a reaction from vaccination.

I am astounded at the violence against those who are vaccinated or involved in public health measures. A man nearby murdered a pharmacist for giving a vaccine to his wife. An anti vaccine protester attacked a cancer patient for wearing a mask. Teachers have been attacked. It is utterly crazy.

If you don’t want a fax don’t get one. Unlike a woman trying to make HER own medical decisions, the GOVERNMENT won’t force you to get one.

 

[Papageorgio]

Sure, sure....so it's my body my choice for a COVID-19 vaccination.

But, old white guys choose for women and option of abortion.

With abortion, just need to make sure everyone gets the facts and let people choose. Same with vaccines, get the facts and then let the people choose.

 

[SweetSue92]

Refusing to get vaccinated is akin to driving around intoxicated. You have the right to drink like a fool in the privacy of your home but once you go out in public you face a lot of different penalties should you fail to conduct yourself properly. Public safety trumps individual rights nearly every time.

Per the vaccine report out in the UK yesterday--they actually keep stats--the vaccines make you MORE susceptible to getting covid in weeks 36-39. And many of us knew this. They suck. Stop agitating for them before you embarrass yourself further. Page 13 of this report

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

 

[Coyote]

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Unfortunately…there is no vaccine to fix congenital stupidity.

 

[SweetSue92]

I don’t think you understand much about how vaccines work and public health.

NO vaccines are 100%. No one ever claimed that.

What we need to keep in mind is that all of the vaccines, although very effective, are not perfect,” says Edward Jones-Lopez, an infectious disease doctor at Keck Medicine at the University of Southern California, of the Covid vaccines available in the United States and Europe. “There are still cases of Covid occurring despite the vaccinations.”

Even the measles vaccine, which is incredibly effective, fails to protect about 3 percent of vaccinated individuals who are exposed to the virus. Jonas Salk's polio vaccine—hailed a medical miracle—was 80 percent to 90 percent effective at preventing paralysis caused by the polio virus. Breakthrough infections of flu are even more common. While the exact effectiveness of the flu vaccine fluctuates year-to-year, it ranges between 40 percent and 60 percent.

Measles and polio breakthrough infections aren't just rare because the vaccines are so effective but also because those who are vaccinated rarely interact with infected people. Even with highly effective vaccines for Covid-19, breakthrough infections are likely to keep happening because the virus is so widespread.

The important point Is that if you are vaccinated, you are far less likely to get if exposed and far far less likely to be hospitalized or die from it. The risks of that are much much higher than any risk of a reaction from vaccination.

I am astounded at the violence against those who are vaccinated or involved in public health measures. A man nearby murdered a pharmacist for giving a vaccine to his wife. An anti vaccine protester attacked a cancer patient for wearing a mask. Teachers have been attacked. It is utterly crazy.

If you don’t want a fax don’t get one. Unlike a woman trying to make HER own medical decisions, the GOVERNMENT won’t force you to get one.

The vaccines make people MORE susceptible to getting Covid, per a report out in the UK yesterday. Unlike our defunct CDC here, they are actually publishing reports.

After week 36, the vaccine so weakens your immune system that yes, the vaccinated are more likely to catch Covid, and yes, that means transmit it. So who are the superspreaders NOW?

Page 13

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

 

[Coyote]

With abortion, just need to make sure everyone gets the facts and let people choose. Same with vaccines, get the facts and then let the people choose.

Up to a point.

After viability, abortion is not so clear cut.

When it comes to contagious diseases and public health, it is not so clear cut. That is why most peop,e don’t people don’t have issues with vaccination requirements in schools, the military, or certain kinds of employment.

 

[SweetSue92]

Up to a point.

After viability, abortion is not so clear cut.

When it comes to contagious diseases and public health, it is not so clear cut. That is why most peop,e don’t people don’t have issues with vaccination requirements in schools, the military, or certain kinds of employment.

These covid vaccines are exceedingly clear cut. They do nothing to prevent infection or transmission--in fact, if you look at the chart I provided, after week 36-39 they have a detrimental effect. That means you are WORSE off vaccinated than unvaccinated: you are the superspreaders!!

 

[Coyote]

The vaccines make people MORE susceptible to getting Covid, per a report out in the UK yesterday. Unlike our defunct CDC here, they are actually publishing reports.

After week 36, the vaccine so weakens your immune system that yes, the vaccinated are more likely to catch Covid, and yes, that means transmit it. So who are the superspreaders NOW?

Page 13

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

That isn’t what the report is showing and you are injecting a bunch of stuff that isn’t there. For example did you look at tables 3 and 4?

 

[Coyote]

These covid vaccines are exceedingly clear cut. They do nothing to prevent infection or transmission--in fact, if you look at the chart I provided, after week 36-39 they have a detrimental effect. That means you are WORSE off vaccinated than unvaccinated: you are the superspreaders!!

That is untrue.

 

[SweetSue92]

That isn’t what the report is showing and you are injecting a bunch of stuff that isn’t there. For example did you look at tables 3 and 4?

So what? That's just protection against severe illness and death. That's not PUBLIC health so much are who are the SUPER Spreaders. And as the table shows, those are the VACCINATED: the people most likely to contract the disease and spread it.

And guess, AGAIN, who that is?

The vaccinated! Wow! Great vaccines!

 

[Turtlesoup]

The question makes no sense.

Yes, Colin you are senseless....

 

[SweetSue92]

That is untrue.

Honey the figures are right there in black and white. Not only do the vaccines FAIL but they are actually counter productive! You are MORE likely to contract covid if you get the vaccines than if you do not.

You can't just keep saying "that's not true" when the facts are right there. Well you CAN, but you look delusional.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Difference is with covid it is my body, but with abortion it is the babies, and guessing the baby would choose not to be killed.

The difference is, if you have covid, someone else is in danger of catching it.
If a woman is pregnant and converses, goes shopping with another woman who has had an abortion, it isn't going to cause that pregnant woman to get an abortion.

 

[SweetSue92]

The difference is, if you have covid, someone else is in danger of catching it.
If a woman is pregnant and converses, goes shopping with another woman who has had an abortion, it isn't going to cause that pregnant woman to get an abortion.

If you were vaccinated for Covid YOU ARE THE SUPER SPREADER

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The difference is, if you have covid, someone else is in danger of catching it.
If a woman is pregnant and converses, goes shopping with another woman who has had an abortion, it isn't going to cause that pregnant woman to get an abortion.

Way to justify killing unborn children. You should get a medal.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Unfortunately…there is no vaccine to fix congenital stupidity.

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Talk to us when the bullet proof vests start killing or maiming the cops who wear them.

 

[Smokin' OP]

If you were vaccinated for Covid YOU ARE THE SUPER SPREADER

Sure I am.
I also forced all the women on my block to get an abortion.

Q NUT.