Pretti Shooting my opinion as a member of US Lawfare

[XponentialChaos]

Absolutely. Offensive contact is an assault under your provided link.

Pushing yourself into LE who are trying to remove you from the street is offensive contact.”

Ok. So you’re lying then. The link doesn’t say that.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Ok. So you’re lying then. The link doesn’t say that.

How specifically am I lying?

I am not one inclined or need to lie.

 

[WorldWatcher]

How was LE negligent?

Off the top of my head?

Initiating violence when it wasn't needed.

Shooting an unarmed man that had been OC sprayed multiple time in the face (therefore blinded and in pain) being restrained by a scrum of 4-5 officers face down on the ground and shot in the back 10 times.

WW

 

[MayorQuimby]

What could he have thought kicking their vehicle would accomplish?

If I had to guess, I would guess suicidality, and a desire to be a martyr.

To me it had a very simple explanation: Contempt and aggression for the agency whose vehicle he was spitting on.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Off the top of my head?

Initiating violence when it wasn't needed.

Shooting an unarmed man that had been OC sprayed multiple time in the face (therefore blinded and in pain) being restrained by a scrum of 4-5 officers face down on the ground and shot in the back 10 times.

WW

Pretti was armed and it was about one second between when LE found his hidden gun while he fought them and the first shot.

 

[XponentialChaos]

How specifically am I lying?

I am not one inclined or need to lie.

The link doesn’t say what you claim it says.

“Pushing yourself into LE who are trying to remove you from the street is offensive contact” is not explicitly stated in the link.

You’re quoting yourself, not what is stated in the link.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Pretti was armed and it was about one second between when LE found his hidden gun while he fought them and the first shot.

So he was unarmed when he was shot, which is what I said.

As a matter of fact the officer that fired the first shot watched the officer remove the firearm and leave THEN fired.

WW

 

[OODA_Loop]

The link doesn’t say what you claim it says.

“Pushing yourself into LE who are trying to remove you from the street is offensive contact” is not explicitly stated in the link.

You’re quoting yourself, not what is stated in the link.

You're playing word games because your arguments have failed.

But let me spell it once again for you.

Pushing your chest into a law enforcement officer pushing you out of the street is "offensive contact".

Offensive contact is assault.

Are we clear now?

I would think your next move would be demonstrating how thrusting yourself [chest] into a law enforcement officer removing you from the street is not assault.

Your move.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Was Pretti armed or not? Sorry I am a bit confused. Two people say completely different things and I don't watch videos so I don't know.

 

[OODA_Loop]

So he was unarmed when he was shot, which is what I said.

As a matter of fact the officer that fired the first shot watched the officer remove the firearm and leave THEN fired.

WW

How long before the discovery of the gun and the first shot?

How long do you present is a reasonable time?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Here is a visual aid for all the would-be Pretti's on here:

 

[XponentialChaos]

You're playing word games because your arguments have failed.

But let me spell it once again for you.

Pushing your chest into a law enforcement officer pushing you out of the street is "offensive contact".

Offensive contact is assault.

Are we clear now?

I would think your next move would be demonstrating how thrusting yourself [chest] into a law enforcement officer removing you from the street is not assault.

Your move.

I asked you if the link says that. You said yes. That was a lie.

Your claim is not supported by any credible links. Lying about it isn’t helpful.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I asked you if the link says that. You said yes. That was a lie.

Your claim is not supported by any credible links. Lying about it isn’t helpful.

Signs of a failed argument.

You got nothing on pushing your chest into LE after being removed from the street as offensive contact?

That is the crux.

We will continue or let it go based on your next post and the expected lack of substance.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Signs of a failed argument.

You got nothing on pushing your chest into LE after being removed from the street as offensive contact?

That is the crux.

We will continue or let it go based on your next post and the expected lack of substance.

Ok. This is going nowhere.

Let me know when you come up with a link that supports your claim. I’ve shown you that your claim is not supported by the legal definition of what is considered assault.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Ok. This is going nowhere.

Let me know when you come up with a link that supports your claim. I’ve shown you that your claim is not supported by the legal definition of what is considered assault.

One more time.......

Is pushing your chest into an officer removing you from the street as specifically identified in your video posted in this thread at the :18 mark offensive contact?

Show me you have a modicum of intellectual honesty.

 

[XponentialChaos]

One more time.......

Is pushing your chest into an officer removing you from the street as specifically identified in your video posted in this thread at the :18 mark offensive contact?

Show me you have a modicum of intellectual honesty.

I’ve already walked you through the link showing you that his actions don’t meet the legal definition of assault.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I’ve already walked you through the link showing you that his actions don’t meet the legal definition of assault.

So you can push your chest into LE?

Your quotes on offensive contact weren't links

 

[XponentialChaos]

So you can push your chest into LE?

Again, already addressed.

Legal definitions have been provided along with examples.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Again, already addressed.

You can ? Your assertion?

 

[XponentialChaos]

You can ? Your assertion?

I’m gonna end it there. Have a good one.