President Trump Lost This War

[Stryder50]

None the less, the responsibility belongs to the man who started the war.

That would be those 'men' in Tehran about 47 years ago

 

[struth]

Constitutional monarchy?

Where do you get that from?

The Trump regiemes hinting at intalling Palhavi didn't last past the first few days.

A constitutional monarchy is what Iran had before your pals took over

 

[TimFitz]

You

It's been lingering under the surface.

Again you pretend everything said and reported reflects reality, well when it suits your TDS.

So, you made it up.

There is no discussion going on anywhere about any sort of constitutional monarchy.

Did you get that from X, or did you make it up on your own?

Evidence would be helpful. But since we both know you have none........

 

[TimFitz]

That would be those 'men' in Tehran about 47 years ago

Donald Trump started this war and lost it. Retreating to that tired Trump talking point is pointless.

 

[Stryder50]

Donald Trump started this war and lost it. Retreating to that tired Trump talking point is pointless.

The war, which is 47 years old and started by Iran, is not yet over. Too soon to say that the USA has lost, there is more to come, in play.

Supporting Islamic Jihad and Iran's anti-USA theocracy's tired rhetoric is more pointless, and also treasonous, 'Taqiyyah TimFitz'.

 

[TimFitz]

The war, which is 47 years old and started by Iran, is not yet over. Too soon to say that the USA has lost, there is more to come, in play.

Supporting Islamic Jihad and Iran's anti-USA theocracy's tired rhetoric is more pointless, and also treasonous, 'Taqiyyah TimFitz'.

Trumpster BS.

That is no more valid than claiming that the war started in 1953, when the CIA overthrew Mossadeq._

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

yea read that from 2 posters here....a lefty and a righty....

All Ideologies Are Ambidextrous

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What Republican dodged the draft? I now of only a few Democrats that dodged the draft, and Bill Clinton was the most noteworthy.

Inheritance Is the Most UnAmerican Institution of All. It's As If the Founders of Israel Converted to Islam.

HeirHeads never belonged here. Their monopoly over opportunities was the main cause of why our forefathers left Europe.

 

[Stryder50]

Trumpster BS.

That is no more valid than claiming that the war started in 1953, when the CIA overthrew Mossadeq._

Mossadeq and Iranians of that time were not vowing "Death to Evil Satan USA".
The Islamic Jihadists (who you support) that overthrew the Shah in 1943 and established a theocratic tyranny in Iran followed up with attacks on Americans and American interests/resources in the ME and elsewhere in the world ever since.

They have the blood of American lives on their hands and retribution is long overdue.

 

[Stryder50]

All Ideologies Are Ambidextrous

Only to minds incapable of understanding the ideologies, their foundations, and applications.
Check your mirror if you need more example.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The GI bill was and is a wonderful way for men and women with no means to get an education in trades or college. It was the idea of a Democratic President much despised by the MAGAts.



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You Admit That College Is Nothing More Than Buying a Job

Even if a bank or the VA buys it for you, it is still dysfunctional. Sacrifice has no merit, except to the High Priests.

This failed institution must be replaced with highly paid professional education. Only that will get the best minds and motivate them to study.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Uncle Sam Wants You, Not Your Cousin

That music is the fighting song of the Living-dead Right, gutless elitists whom MAGA should kick out of the Republican Party, just like the Democrats kicked out their Segregationists and other politically incorrect members in the 1960s.

 

[TimFitz]

Mossadeq and Iranians of that time were not vowing "Death to Evil Satan USA".
The Islamic Jihadists (who you support) that overthrew the Shah in 1943 and established a theocratic tyranny in Iran followed up with attacks on Americans and American interests/resources in the ME and elsewhere in the world ever since.

They have the blood of American lives on their hands and retribution is long overdue.

No, they did something much worse.

The nationalized their oil resources. Anglo-Persian Petroleum and the Rockefeller intersts were having none of that.

You will have to produce evidence that Iran attacked Americans and American oil in the Middle East in 1943.

I know of no such thing.

BTW, repeating the claim does not count without documentation.

 

[struth]

Trumpster BS.

That is no more valid than claiming that the war started in 1953, when the CIA overthrew Mossadeq._

Actually it's nothing like that, when the Iranian military overthrew the PM, they didn't create a new regime. The Govt remained the same, it remained a Constitutional Monacrhy. the King was the same King, the rule of law was the same rule of law.....and they were still allies of the United States and West

 

[martybegan]

You

So, you made it up.

There is no discussion going on anywhere about any sort of constitutional monarchy.

Did you get that from X, or did you make it up on your own?

Evidence would be helpful. But since we both know you have none........

It's called being to have opinions based on the data at hand.

Calling for evidence when you are one of the people that thinks women can have penises is comical.

 

[Stryder50]

No, they did something much worse.

The nationalized their oil resources. Anglo-Persian Petroleum and the Rockefeller intersts were having none of that.

You will have to produce evidence that Iran attacked Americans and American oil in the Middle East in 1943.

I know of no such thing.

BTW, repeating the claim does not count without documentation.

My typo, haste without editing.
1943 should have been 1979.
Western interests invested in the exploration and providing the equipment to access the petroleum, without full compensation can understand their chagrin.
Also, Western Allies in WW2 occupied Iran while there were Nazi sponsored coup efforts in that part of the ME, and to keep Russia from occupying Iran. Also to establish the overland Lend-Lease route to Russia.

 

[Old Rocks]

It's been lingering under the surface.

Again you pretend everything said and reported reflects reality, well when it suits your TDS.

So now you are suggesting that after losing this war, we have another go at installing another Shah? LOL Talk about stupid.

 

[theHawk]

Ever word in your post is a lie.

The government that was leading Iran 100 days ago is very much alive and well. The leadership has changed, but the Ayatollahs are still firmly in command of the nation. The only difference is that these are hard liners compared to those who died. As always, Trump made things worse.

Trump hasn't destroyed "most of the military". The Iranians are still bombing your troops and your allies, and they've disrupted the world's economy by closing the Straits.

Iran signed the JCPOA when Obama was President, and Obama accomplished this without firing a shot or getting ANYONE killed.

Historians and experts are saying this is the worst US military defeat in US history. Well done, Trump. The worst that ever was.

The Ayatollah is dead. His son got his leg blown off and his face burned and hasn’t been seen since. Most of the government leadership has been pink misted.