Asclepias
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Like most conservatives you are an idiot if you think a wall around the Vatican is being hypocritical.
Pope has a wall around the Vatican, right?
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Wry Catcher
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When he plays golf the secret service has to hire golf carts to follow him, on his own course where he earns $$$ from their rent.
Secret Service has spent nearly $150k on golf cart rentals since Trump took office: report
Carl in Michigan
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Yeah I heard that too. All leftists are such hypocrites. The hatred of America is that strong. They want us destroyed.
Asclepias
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He charges the US populace to rent golf carts from his own golf course so he can play?
Asclepias
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Who owns the corporation goofy?
The Trump Organization - Wikipedia
"The Trump Organization is the collective name for a group of approximately 500 business entities of which Donald Trump, the current U.S. President, is the sole or principal owner. Approximately 250 entities use the Trump name."
Wry Catcher
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Pope Francis is not a Communist; claiming he is proves only that you are ignorant and can only echo the meme of other biddable fools.
Eric Arthur Blair
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He's a fraud without the slightest bit of moral authority. He lives like pampered royalty while many of his followers wallow in poverty. His priests are often child molesting pedophiles protected by his "holiness". And as you point out he isolates himself behind walls with armed guards while he demands others ignore their borders place their country in chaotic peril.
A fat, lying fraud!
MarathonMike
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Nothing says 'welcome my children' like a 30 foot brick wall. The Pope a Dope sticks his foot in it again.
ABikerSailor
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You know, the walls were originally built to keep out pirates. And, when the threat from pirates and Muslims faded, they decided to keep the walls as a symbol of papal power. Interestingly enough, it's easier to get into the Vatican than it is to go through airport security at JFK.
Why Are There Walls Around the Vatican?
During the 9th century, Saracen pirates were pillaging much of southern Italy. When they sacked St. Peter’s in 846, Pope Leo IV decided he needed a little extra protection. A 39-foot-tall wall was constructed around Leonine City, an area which included the current Vatican territory.
“Gradually the Muslim threat receded and many gates were opened in the walls,” says Thomas Noble, a papal history expert at Notre Dame University. But then came the 16th century and a new pope, Pius IV, who proclaimed, “Nah! Close ‘em up, boys.” (We’re paraphrasing.) “The problem in those later times was that political violence in Rome sometimes threatened the papacy,” says Noble. It wasn’t pirates this time, but Roman Emperors looking to pick a fight (and maybe steal some of the church’s sweet art.)
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“A Sign of Papal Power”
The Vatican walls stayed even when the threats disappeared, because a wall isn’t always about keeping out bad guys. Ancient walls look cool. “Remember that the great Renaissance Popes sought to restore Rome and the Vatican Area to be the glory of the civilized world,” says Diane Apostolos-Cappadona, a Catholic studies professor at Georgetown. St. Peter’s Basilica Church was built to be “the largest church in Christendom and the center of pilgrimage in Europe,” she says. Surrounding it all with a wall was a “sign of papal power.”
But it’s a symbolic power more than an oppressive “keep the hell out” power. “Building walls, whether in China or the north of Britain or anywhere else, have always been political statements,” says Noble. “They have never served as effective barriers.”
The Vatican walls are anything but effective. It’s more difficult to get through airport security at JFK than to get into Vatican City. Once you’re through the metal detectors, well, that’s it. As for identification, it doesn’t take much. Ken Pennington, a professor of medieval history at Washington’s Catholic University of America, frequently visits Vatican City, and he says the only I.D. he’s ever needed is his Vatican library card. “It’s true,” he laughs. “Have library card; will travel.”
Why are you guys holding the current pope responsible for the actions of a pope over 1,000 years ago?
Why Are There Walls Around the Vatican?
During the 9th century, Saracen pirates were pillaging much of southern Italy. When they sacked St. Peter’s in 846, Pope Leo IV decided he needed a little extra protection. A 39-foot-tall wall was constructed around Leonine City, an area which included the current Vatican territory.
“Gradually the Muslim threat receded and many gates were opened in the walls,” says Thomas Noble, a papal history expert at Notre Dame University. But then came the 16th century and a new pope, Pius IV, who proclaimed, “Nah! Close ‘em up, boys.” (We’re paraphrasing.) “The problem in those later times was that political violence in Rome sometimes threatened the papacy,” says Noble. It wasn’t pirates this time, but Roman Emperors looking to pick a fight (and maybe steal some of the church’s sweet art.)
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“A Sign of Papal Power”
The Vatican walls stayed even when the threats disappeared, because a wall isn’t always about keeping out bad guys. Ancient walls look cool. “Remember that the great Renaissance Popes sought to restore Rome and the Vatican Area to be the glory of the civilized world,” says Diane Apostolos-Cappadona, a Catholic studies professor at Georgetown. St. Peter’s Basilica Church was built to be “the largest church in Christendom and the center of pilgrimage in Europe,” she says. Surrounding it all with a wall was a “sign of papal power.”
But it’s a symbolic power more than an oppressive “keep the hell out” power. “Building walls, whether in China or the north of Britain or anywhere else, have always been political statements,” says Noble. “They have never served as effective barriers.”
The Vatican walls are anything but effective. It’s more difficult to get through airport security at JFK than to get into Vatican City. Once you’re through the metal detectors, well, that’s it. As for identification, it doesn’t take much. Ken Pennington, a professor of medieval history at Washington’s Catholic University of America, frequently visits Vatican City, and he says the only I.D. he’s ever needed is his Vatican library card. “It’s true,” he laughs. “Have library card; will travel.”
Why are you guys holding the current pope responsible for the actions of a pope over 1,000 years ago?
BuckToothMoron
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Hey it’s not a wall. Asslips said it’s a fence.
francoHFW
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And you have a wall of brainwash around your brain, super duper duper. The Vatican wall is designed to stop armies invading and attacking, anybody who wants to can walk into Vatican City, dumbass. The wall is stupid and won't do a damn thing. Pass an ID card like Democrats have tried to for years.
francoHFW
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You can use it for your imaginary illegal voting problem...
Wry Catcher
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It ain't no wall, bozo, and Mexico will not pay a dime for it. You ought to grow up and embrace reality.
Synthaholic
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There is no wall around the Vatican.
When you get your dementia talking points from a dementia president it looks like you have dementia.
Wry Catcher
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Example of Poopaganda ^^^ (propaganda + bullshit):
Photo of the Vatican security - Google Search
Anyone see a wall?
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