Poll for Trump Supporters: Will you push back if he goes full fascist?

[AntonToo]

Unhinged, absolutely. I don't think they "hate America", at least no more so than the fascist cheerleaders on the Trump side.

Read my comments in this thread if you want to know my opinions of Democrats: Rx for the Democrats

Otherwise, I'm think I'm going to roll off this thread. It's just too depressing. Partisans are fucking nuts and they're pissing our country away.

Don't false equalize here, rwingers are way crazier overall.

Almost half of them are telling you straight up that their tribalist bubble got them so mindfucked that they are now primed to go all in on a fascist dictatorship for their Dear Leader.

There is just nothing comparable to such un-American cultism on the left.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Some of you ignoramuses need to go look up what fascism is.

Fascism is not any one law or mandate - it is a militarized DICTATORSHIP by a charismatic leader, where all political opposition is forcibly squashed.

CAFE standards? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

More government control over corporations and the economy.

Not cutting taxes and regulations.

Glad you understand.

 

[AntonToo]

More government control over corporations and the economy.

Not cutting taxes and regulations.

Glad you understand.

More government control, inacted in the context of constitutional, democratic process in an open society is NOT FASCISM MAKE.

Want less government control? No problem, convince others and vote in representatives that will make those changes.

Come on, use your head, this is elementary.

 

[dblack]

Don't false equalize here, rwingers are way crazier overall.

Almost half of them are telling you straight up that their tribalist bubble got them so mindfucked that they are now primed to go all in on a fascist dictatorship for their Dear Leader.

Or they're just partisans, terrified to give an inch, or admit to any flaws in their party or its leadership. It's all about going rigid and fighting anyone who disagrees with you. It's not so different with partisans on the left.

There is just nothing comparable to such un-American cultism on the left.

I dunno. I'm seeing a lot of irrational denial coming out of the left. Most of them that I talk to see no reason to change course. Even though over half the country is so fed up with Democrats that they're willing to ride the Trump crazy train just to avoid the leftist agenda.

The real problem is that the two party system is so broken that neither party seems to be capable of nominating good candidates.

 

[teddyearp]

I think it is typical that a left leaning person would put up a stacked poll and then stack the outcome by limiting who responds.

I kind of figure that's the way they do all polls.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trump is the problem?

Insurrection Indeed - Mayorkas and Wray defy Congress

Refusing to testify in front of Congress? Tsk tsk tsk This is in regards to to FEMA skipping certain homes with certain signs. Even Democrats blasted them. Both should be removed immediately and held in contempt. Simply unacceptable. But Trump is the problem. Smh...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[AntonToo]

Or they're just partisans, terrified to give an inch, or admit to any flaws in their party or its leadership. It's all about going rigid and fighting anyone who disagrees with you. It's not so different with partisans on the left.

I dunno. I'm seeing a lot of irrational denial coming out of the left. Most of them that I talk to see no reason to change course. Even though over half the country is so fed up with Democrats that they're willing to ride the Trump crazy train just to avoid the leftist agenda.

The real problem is that the two party system is so broken that neither party seems to be capable of nominating good candidates.

Really? You really think that lefties would vote yes on going along with fascist dictatorship the way rightwingers did here in this thread?

Comeon, you cannot be serious.

They are not just partisans, they are ignorant, mindfucked people without any respect for fundamental democratic principles that this country was founded on.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

More government control, inacted in the context of constitutional, democratic process in an open society is NOT FASCISM MAKE.

Want less government control? No problem, convince others and vote in representatives that will make those changes.

Come on, use your head, this is elementary.

More government control, inacted in the context of constitutional, democratic process in an open society is NOT FASCISM MAKE.

Well, if more control isn't fascism, less control and lower taxes REALLY ISN"T FASCISM.
Glad we're on the same page

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Really? You really think that lefties would vote yes on going along with fascist dictatorship the way rightwingers did here in this thread?

How many leftwingers had a problem with the government telling social media companies to censor posts about vaccines, Hunter's laptop or the 2020 election?

 

[AntonToo]

How many leftwingers had a problem with the government telling social media companies to censor posts about vaccines, Hunter's laptop or the 2020 election?

How do you not get tired of the constant spin and manipulations?

FASCIST state does not TELL you, they MAKE YOU do it, while giving you no legal or political process means to oppose their mandate.

No one MADE private social media co-operate with the government, it was their volantary editorial descision.

 

[AntonToo]

More government control, inacted in the context of constitutional, democratic process in an open society is NOT FASCISM MAKE.

Well, if more control isn't fascism, less control and lower taxes REALLY ISN"T FASCISM.
Glad we're on the same page

Wow. Seriously?

Trump is not called a fascist because of "less control and taxes". Generally all Republicans advocate that.

He is called a facist beause he has proven that he will flush all democratic norms and principles down the toilet 7 days a week to get his way and hold on to power.

"I'll be a dictator on day one" - Trump. He won't, because he still has to operate within American democratic framework that seperates and restricts powers, but he sure as hell would love to be an unconstrained dictator, because at heart he is an unprincipled, ignorant, intelectually bankrupt, power addicted degenerate.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Or they're just partisans, terrified to give an inch, or admit to any flaws in their party or its leadership. It's all about going rigid and fighting anyone who disagrees with you. It's not so different with partisans on the left.

I dunno. I'm seeing a lot of irrational denial coming out of the left. Most of them that I talk to see no reason to change course. Even though over half the country is so fed up with Democrats that they're willing to ride the Trump crazy train just to avoid the leftist agenda.

The real problem is that the two party system is so broken that neither party seems to be capable of nominating good candidates.

This British Cigarette put me on ignore because he doesn’t want fair debate. But I /we are the problem? Nope

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

FASCIST state does not TELL you, they MAKE YOU do it, while giving you no legal or political process means to oppose their mandate.

No one MADE private social media co-operate with the government, it was their volantary editorial decision.

Awww, aren't you cute?

Why was the government "asking" social media companies to censor posts?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wow. Seriously?

Trump is not called a fascist because of "less control and taxes". Generally all Republicans advocate that.

He is called a facist beause he has proven that he will flush all democratic norms and principles down the toilet 7 days a week to get his way and hold on to power.

"I'll be a dictator on day one" - Trump. He won't, because he still has to operate within American democratic framework that seperates and restricts powers, but he sure as hell would love to be an unconstrained dictator, because at heart he is an unprincipled, ignorant, intelectually bankrupt, power addicted degenerate.

Trump is not called a fascist because of "less control and taxes".

Well, when leftist morons, like you, scream that Trump wants total control and he does things that reduce control, like cutting taxes and regulations, you sound even more unhinged when you continue your rants about fascism.

"I'll be a dictator on day one" - Trump.

He says, "You're not gonna be a dictator, are you?" I said no, no, no … other than Day One. We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator, OK?

 

[AntonToo]

Trump is not called a fascist because of "less control and taxes".

Well, when leftist morons, like you, scream that Trump wants total control and he does things that reduce control, like cutting taxes and regulations, you sound even more unhinged when you continue your rants about fascism.

Specific taxes and regulations have little to nothing to do with fascist dictatorship dummy. Hitler would not be less of a Hitler if only he lowered taxes some.

I've already explained what a fascist dictatorship is and if you are not mentally equiped to understand such fundamental political concepts then thats as far as I could possibly take this.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Specific taxes and regulations have little to nothing to do with fascist dictatorship dummy. Hitler would not be less of a Hitler if only he lowered taxes some.

I've already explained what a fascist dictatorship is and if you are not mentally equiped to understand such fundamental political concepts then thats as far as I could possibly take this.

Trump hasn't done anything fascist, has he?

 

[AntonToo]

Awww, aren't you cute?

Why was the government "asking" social media companies to censor posts?

What the fuck is the difference? The point is not why they asked but the fact that it was an ask, not a forced mandate by a totalitarian state.

 

[AntonToo]

Trump hasn't done anything fascist, has he?

...you mean aside from illictly trying to subvert an election result and refusing to peacefully transfer power, attacking the very foundation of democracy?

No.

But a fascist need not BE an actually realized dictator, just as a communist does not need to be one. It's about personal ideology, principles and values and for Trump no principle seems to be above raw power.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What the fuck is the difference? The point is not why they asked but the fact that it was an ask, not a forced mandate by a totalitarian state,

Where does the US Constitution give the government the power to "ask" social media companies to censor
content they don't like. "Asking" sounds more fascist than anything Trump did.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

...you mean aside from illictly trying to subvert an election result and refusing to peacefully transfer power?

Illicitly trying? That's the fascism you're whining about? LOL