Poll for Trump Supporters: Will you push back if he goes full fascist?

[AntonToo]

Where does the US Constitution give the government the power to "ask" social media companies to censor
content they don't like. "Asking" sounds more fascist than anything Trump did.

Ignoramus, our courts have long ago established that our government has very broad powers to act in the public interest.

And thats a red herring anyway, because what you are saying in no way refutes that an ask for voluntary co-operation is in no way Fascism make.

 

[AntonToo]

Illicitly trying? That's the fascism you're whining about? LOL

Subverting an election, because you are a power additcted fascist with no respect for democratic principles is what I'm talking about. Duh.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ignoramus, our courts have long ago established that our government has very broad powers to act in the public interest.

And thats a red herring anyway, because what you are saying in no way refutes that an ask for voluntary co-operation is in no way Fascism make.

Right. "Asking" social media to censor Hunter laptop stories, definitely in the public interest. Moron.

 

[AntonToo]

Right. "Asking" social media to censor Hunter laptop stories, definitely in the public interest. Moron.

Idiot, what part of

"thats a red herring anyway, because what you are saying in no way refutes that an ask for voluntary co-operation is in no way Fascism make."

do you not get? Because nothing in your new post actually addresses what you quote.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Idiot, what part of

"thats a red herring anyway, because what you are saying in no way refutes that an ask for voluntary co-operation is in no way Fascism make."

do you not get? Because nothing in your new post actually addresses what you quote.

How is that a red herring? A red herring is saying the laptop was Russian disinformation when it was real.
When the government "ASKS" a social media company to censor something, it's more like a demand.
When the demand is to help Biden, that sounds a bit like fascist censorship.
Certainly, more fascist than anything Trump has done so far.

 

[dblack]

What the fuck is the difference? The point is not why they asked but the fact that it was an ask, not a forced mandate by a totalitarian state.

Ok, so what if the totalitarian state "asks"? Probably don't want to get on their bad side, right?

 

[AntonToo]

Ok, so what if the totalitarian state "asks"? Probably don't want to get on their bad side, right?

...are you are seriously calling America a totalitarian state?

 

[AntonToo]

How is that a red herring?

It absolutely does not matter WHY the government was asking, the only thing that matters to the discussion is that government was merely asking.

If a social platform didn't want to sensor those posts, they didn't have to and in fact many platforms didn't.

 

[dblack]

...are you are seriously calling America a totalitarian state?

Well, let me put it his way, what it Trump "asks"? You good with that?

 

[AntonToo]

Well, let me put it his way, what it Trump "asks"? You good with that?

Wtf? Trump asks all the time. Thats ok.

Here is the NOT OK part:

Trump has pledged to toss reporters in jail and strip major television networks of their broadcast licenses as retribution for coverage he didn't like.


and keeps calling media the enemy of the people:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-fake-news-media-real-enemy-people/story?id=56687436

This is textbook fascist rhetoric and another vivid reason why he gets called a fascist.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It absolutely does not matter WHY the government was asking, the only thing that matters to the discussion is that government was merely asking.

If a social platform didn't want to sensor those posts, they didn't have to and in fact many platforms didn't.

Government strong-arming, I mean politely asking social media to censor doesn't
bother you a bit?

What if Trump asked social media to censor things he doesn't like? Would that be fascist?

 

[AntonToo]

Government....politely asking social media to censor doesn't
bother you a bit?

No it doesn't.

Government absolutely has the right and SHOULD seek co-operation from private bussiness on a wide range of public interest issues and specifically co-operation the media, which nowadays encompasses social media.

But even if it did, it still would not be an example of Fascism, because Fascism is not defined by me being bothered or not bothered by something.

Can you get that simple concept THIS TIME?

 

[AntonToo]

What if Trump asked social media to censor things he doesn't like? Would that be fascist?

Mere ask would not be Fascist by definition.

Very simple concept, but seems very hard for you to understand because you really really really don't want to.

 

[BackAgain]

The real question remains:

Why is this rules’-violating thread still not relegated to the basement?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Government absolutely has the right and SHOULD seek co-operation from private bussiness on a wide range of public interest issues and specifically co-operation the media, which nowadays encompasses social media.

And what was the public interest in censoring Hunter's laptop?

 

[dblack]

Wtf? Trump asks all the time. Thats ok.

Is it? Suppose Trump "asks" TV networks to refrain from covering protests - you know, for the good of the country. Does that work for you? How about if "asks" right after he's been publicly discussing the need for more regulation regarding media bias? Why do you think he makes all these over-the-top threats in the first place? - It's so that when he "asks", people listen.

Anyway, I think we need to keep a lid on these kinds of state requests for the same reason cops can't accept gifts. There's an implied coercion at the heart of every "request" from government. Imagine if a cop, in the middle of interrogating a beautiful young woman, asked her for a date.

Regardless, everything that government is "asking" for should be publicly announced.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is it? Suppose Trump "asks" TV networks to refrain from covering protests - you know, for the good of the country. Does that work for you? How about if "asks" right after he's been publicly discussing the need for more regulation regarding media bias? Why do you think he makes all these over-the-top threats in the first place? - It's so that when he "asks", people listen.

Anyway, I think we need to keep a lid on these kinds of state requests for the same reason cops can't accept gifts. There's an implied coercion at the heart of every "request" from government. Imagine if a cop, in the middle of interrogating a beautiful young woman, asked her for a date.

Regardless, everything that government is "asking" for should be publicly announced.

There's an implied coercion at the heart of every "request" from government. Imagine if a cop, in the middle of interrogating a beautiful young woman, asked her for a date.

Yes.

 

[AntonToo]

And what was the public interest in censoring Hunter's laptop?

You just can't get it, can you?

 

[AntonToo]

Is it? Suppose Trump "asks" TV networks to refrain from covering protests - you know, for the good of the country. Does that work for you? How about if "asks" right after he's been publicly discussing the need for more regulation regarding media bias?

TV networks would tell him to go fuck himself because any law limiting such basic freedom of speech and media would be immediately challenged and overturned in a court of law with huge blowback in the court of public opinion.

This is what NOT FASCIST country looks like.

 

[daveman]

Plain outsmarted. You ran circles around me logically. pwned!

You really thought your motives weren't seen immediately?