Phil Valentine Does a 180 on Covid and Vaccines

Your posts are utter bullshit. You don't even believe those anti vax con radio hosts died of covid. You're a C word. I wish I could type the C word bitch.

Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

You are never able to do any more than offer vulgarity.

Effectively, you have verified my documented post:

No matter what he really died of, fools are told it was the Wuhan Red Death.

. In order to advance the scheme, the powers arranged against Trump simply ordered their minions, supporters, to claim deaths due to heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, were due to the Wuhan.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


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The death rate for Covid is about....


ZERO.
 
Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

You are never able to do any more than offer vulgarity.

Effectively, you have verified my documented post:

No matter what he really died of, fools are told it was the Wuhan Red Death.

. In order to advance the scheme, the powers arranged against Trump simply ordered their minions, supporters, to claim deaths due to heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, were due to the Wuhan.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


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The death rate for Covid is about....


ZERO.
You wasted your time typing that. I only read the first sentence. You disgust me.
 

He was originally thinking Covid 19 was nothing more than a minor cold... nothing really to worry about with all the hype being the biggest part of the thing...
(He is a primadonna)

Now he has gone and done a 180...pro-vaccine... telling everyone to get it.

Typical
 
Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

You are never able to do any more than offer vulgarity.

Effectively, you have verified my documented post:

No matter what he really died of, fools are told it was the Wuhan Red Death.

. In order to advance the scheme, the powers arranged against Trump simply ordered their minions, supporters, to claim deaths due to heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, were due to the Wuhan.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


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The death rate for Covid is about....


ZERO.
 
Ok I read this entirely. It wasn't a bunch of right wing spin. You're exhausting.


Death from the Wuhan Red Death???

Practically zero.


More proof that I am never wrong:



....RED DEATH HOAX


let's clear this up once and for all.

1. And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later was doing two hours-long rallies a day.



2. Here, from WebMD:
Coronavirus Recovery Rates


Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.
Coronavirus Recovery



3. Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox.

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.



4. “Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids
This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”
truthbasedmedia.com


Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

Let's put the conclusions up front. There is no reason for kids to wear masks. There's no reason to keep
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5. If you had no co-morbidities to begin with.....

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ourworldindata.org


Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research

We update the country-by-country data – shown in the interactive visualizations – daily. Further below you find a longer text on how to interpret the various metrics; the static visualizations in that section and the text were written in the first half of 2020 and have not been updated since.
ourworldindata.org
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That’s worldwide….includes nations with third world healthcare: under 1%

And those with socialized medicine, much higher rate of death.


6. “Most people recover from Covid-19.
Most people with Covid-19 have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care,… Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many





7. The mechanism of the hoax was simply to claim that deaths that would have occurred (most who died already had DNRs), and to substitute the real cause of death (the usual causes… heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia) and pretend that the Wuhan was responsible.

It was designed to dissipate the value of Trump’s miraculous economy….and it worked.


You won, you hurt America badly, but you got rid of your bête noire.

Give it up already: no, 600,000 Americans did not die of the Wuhan Red Death.

It's just one more of the myriad lies Democrats tell.




And you bought it like every other lie they tell.
 

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Death from the Wuhan Red Death???

Practically zero.


More proof that I am never wrong:



....RED DEATH HOAX


let's clear this up once and for all.

1. And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later was doing two hours-long rallies a day.



2. Here, from WebMD:
Coronavirus Recovery Rates


Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.
Coronavirus Recovery



3. Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox.

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.



4. “Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids
This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”
truthbasedmedia.com


Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

Let's put the conclusions up front. There is no reason for kids to wear masks. There's no reason to keep
truthbasedmedia.com
truthbasedmedia.com




5. If you had no co-morbidities to begin with.....

1626816939992.png


ourworldindata.org


Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research

We update the country-by-country data – shown in the interactive visualizations – daily. Further below you find a longer text on how to interpret the various metrics; the static visualizations in that section and the text were written in the first half of 2020 and have not been updated since.
ourworldindata.org
ourworldindata.org
That’s worldwide….includes nations with third world healthcare: under 1%

And those with socialized medicine, much higher rate of death.


6. “Most people recover from Covid-19.
Most people with Covid-19 have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care,… Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many





7. The mechanism of the hoax was simply to claim that deaths that would have occurred (most who died already had DNRs), and to substitute the real cause of death (the usual causes… heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia) and pretend that the Wuhan was responsible.

It was designed to dissipate the value of Trump’s miraculous economy….and it worked.


You won, you hurt America badly, but you got rid of your bête noire.

Give it up already: no, 600,000 Americans did not die of the Wuhan Red Death.

It's just one more of the myriad lies Democrats tell.




And you bought it like every other lie they tell.



Who are you 'disagreeing' with, you imbecile????


Everything is attributed and linked.


Here's more:


8. “Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?

Health officials estimate more 99% of infected patients survive

DETROIT – Health officials have confirmed the survival rate for people with the coronavirus (COVID-19) is high, but that’s no reason to relax safety measures that have been put in place.

One of the numbers that has been circulating on social media is that COVID-19 has a 98% or higher survival rate.

As of Wednesday, the number of cases in the United States was around 3,512,000 and the number of deaths was around 137,000. That would make the case fatality rate 3.9%, so based on confirmed cases, about 96% of people survive.” Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?u



Doesn’t look like a great reason to ruin the economy and the lives of millions of unaffected individuals…..

…..unless you have an ulterior purpose.

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9. “Infection Fatality Rate (23k / 1.7M = 1.4% IFR)

Actual Cases with an outcome as of May 1 = estimated actual recovered (1,671,351) + estimated actual deaths (23,430) = 1,694,781.

Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).” Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer



10. “VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story

The Question

Is the survivability rate of COVID-19 close to 100%?

The Answer

According to coronavirus data from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services, there have been more than 992,000 COVID-19 cases statewide since the pandemic's start. To date, there have been close to 13,000 coronavirus-related deaths.

That would make the percentage of infections resulting in survival close to 99%” VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story




You've been suckered.
 
Who are you 'disagreeing' with, you imbecile????


Everything is attributed and linked.


Here's more:


8. “Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?

Health officials estimate more 99% of infected patients survive

DETROIT – Health officials have confirmed the survival rate for people with the coronavirus (COVID-19) is high, but that’s no reason to relax safety measures that have been put in place.

One of the numbers that has been circulating on social media is that COVID-19 has a 98% or higher survival rate.

As of Wednesday, the number of cases in the United States was around 3,512,000 and the number of deaths was around 137,000. That would make the case fatality rate 3.9%, so based on confirmed cases, about 96% of people survive.” Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?u



Doesn’t look like a great reason to ruin the economy and the lives of millions of unaffected individuals…..

…..unless you have an ulterior purpose.

============================================================

9. “Infection Fatality Rate (23k / 1.7M = 1.4% IFR)

Actual Cases with an outcome as of May 1 = estimated actual recovered (1,671,351) + estimated actual deaths (23,430) = 1,694,781.

Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).” Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer



10. “VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story

The Question

Is the survivability rate of COVID-19 close to 100%?

The Answer

According to coronavirus data from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services, there have been more than 992,000 COVID-19 cases statewide since the pandemic's start. To date, there have been close to 13,000 coronavirus-related deaths.

That would make the percentage of infections resulting in survival close to 99%” VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story




You've been suckered.

Actually the statistics you are spouting aren't exactly what the important thing we need to know.

Active infection is needed to fill the stats you are reciting and they are similar to influenza. Slightly higher than influenza but still similar.
However,
The kidney damages, lung damages, and heart and nervous system damages resulting from an infection which ultimately cause deaths are significantly higher than influenza related deaths.

I was just reviewing a hospital system in GA that is experiencing a 25% mortality rate from those who have been admitted for coronavirus. The disability rate is also going through the roof. Meaning that yes people are surviving but are going to be at a minimum harmed and disabled for an extended period of time.
 
Actually the statistics you are spouting aren't exactly what the important thing we need to know.

Active infection is needed to fill the stats you are reciting and they are similar to influenza. Slightly higher than influenza but still similar.
However,
The kidney damages, lung damages, and heart and nervous system damages resulting from an infection which ultimately cause deaths are significantly higher than influenza related deaths.

I was just reviewing a hospital system in GA that is experiencing a 25% mortality rate from those who have been admitted for coronavirus. The disability rate is also going through the roof. Meaning that yes people are surviving but are going to be at a minimum harmed and disabled for an extended period of time.


"Spouting"????

You mean providing with links and documentation.

Try to avoid the pejoratives to hide your embarrassment.



What are the co-morbidities of every death that is claimed to be from the Wuhan?


Covid is simply the flu.


"Study Finds 89% of Patients Who Died From COVID-19 Had a Do-Not-Resuscitate Order

DNR patients had higher hazard ratios for risk of death and lower survival outcomes compared to non-DNR patients. The association between DNR status and poor clinical outcomes remained independently significant after adjustment for important clinical factors, including age, gender, COVID-19 symptoms at the time of admission and comorbidities.





"This study is notable because it indicates that many patients who died in these hospitals were quite ill to begin with. If this trend held in larger samples of the national population, at least one prediction made by Imperial College researcher Neil Ferguson may bear out. When he revised his statistics, he told officials in the U.K. that a significant portion of COVID-19 deaths in the country would likely have happened within the next six to twelve months without the virus"






“Obesity a driving factor in COVID-19 deaths, global report finds”





The Wuhan Red Death is a political disease, and a fabrication.
But a very successful one.
 
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"Spouting"????

You mean providing with links and documentation.

Try to avoid the pejoratives to hide your embarrassment.



What are the co-morbidities of every death that is claimed to be from the Wuhan?


Covid is simply the flu.


"Study Finds 89% of Patients Who Died From COVID-19 Had a Do-Not-Resuscitate Order

DNR patients had higher hazard ratios for risk of death and lower survival outcomes compared to non-DNR patients. The association between DNR status and poor clinical outcomes remained independently significant after adjustment for important clinical factors, including age, gender, COVID-19 symptoms at the time of admission and comorbidities.





"This study is notable because it indicates that many patients who died in these hospitals were quite ill to begin with. If this trend held in larger samples of the national population, at least one prediction made by Imperial College researcher Neil Ferguson may bear out. When he revised his statistics, he told officials in the U.K. that a significant portion of COVID-19 deaths in the country would likely have happened within the next six to twelve months without the virus"






“Obesity a driving factor in COVID-19 deaths, global report finds”





The Wuhan Red Death is a political disease, and a fabrication.
But a very successful one.
Ok...
First off your "sources" and "documentation" are for the people who are interested in a particular point of view...so the articles are skewed in that fashion.

True scientific journals are available to the public but the free ones are not exactly free from flawed science either. Then there are published reports that are written in a fashion for the scientific community... meaning that they already know the difference between dying of COVID-19 and dying from ailments caused by an initial Covid infection. But your lay person isn't going to know the difference...just like the writers of the articles you just linked to doesn't understand what the difference is.

Look, I've been dealing with epidemiologists and virologist and other science researchers for a while now. (12 years and counting)
They aren't exactly normal but who is?

But they have exacting rules that media outlets ignore and use to their advantage to often say the exact opposite of what a published paper actually says and proves.

IOW you are being duped. Every epidemiologists I know will tell you that truly your best chance of coming through a pandemic without harm is by limiting contact with others (isolation and masks) and vaccines. Long term effects of COVID-19 are not known yet. But looking at other Covid class viruses and their long term effects on human population it isn't exactly pretty... even though some have high survival rates.
 
Ok...
First off your "sources" and "documentation" are for the people who are interested in a particular point of view...so the articles are skewed in that fashion.

True scientific journals are available to the public but the free ones are not exactly free from flawed science either. Then there are published reports that are written in a fashion for the scientific community... meaning that they already know the difference between dying of COVID-19 and dying from ailments caused by an initial Covid infection. But your lay person isn't going to know the difference...just like the writers of the articles you just linked to doesn't understand what the difference is.

Look, I've been dealing with epidemiologists and virologist and other science researchers for a while now. (12 years and counting)
They aren't exactly normal but who is?

But they have exacting rules that media outlets ignore and use to their advantage to often say the exact opposite of what a published paper actually says and proves.

IOW you are being duped. Every epidemiologists I know will tell you that truly your best chance of coming through a pandemic without harm is by limiting contact with others (isolation and masks) and vaccines. Long term effects of COVID-19 are not known yet. But looking at other Covid class viruses and their long term effects on human population it isn't exactly pretty... even though some have high survival rates.


"First off your "sources" and "documentation" are for the people who are interested in a particular point of view...so the articles are skewed in that fashion."


Look in the mirror.






. The diseases actually responsible for the most deaths are heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia

“Heart disease is the leading cause of death for men, women, and people of most racial and ethnic groups in the United States. One person dies every 36 seconds in the United States from cardiovascular disease. About 655,000 Americans die from heart disease each year—that's 1 in every 4 deaths.Sep 8, 2020

Includes causes of death: Coronary artery disease

Includes Diseases: Coronary artery disease; Stroke
Heart Disease Facts | cdc.gov



In order to advance the scheme, the powers arranged against Trump simply ordered their minions, supporters, to claim deaths due to heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, were due to the Wuhan.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


No matter the actual cause........it's the Chinavirus!




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Wise up.
 
"First off your "sources" and "documentation" are for the people who are interested in a particular point of view...so the articles are skewed in that fashion."


Look in the mirror.






. The diseases actually responsible for the most deaths are heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia

“Heart disease is the leading cause of death for men, women, and people of most racial and ethnic groups in the United States. One person dies every 36 seconds in the United States from cardiovascular disease. About 655,000 Americans die from heart disease each year—that's 1 in every 4 deaths.Sep 8, 2020

Includes causes of death: Coronary artery disease

Includes Diseases: Coronary artery disease; Stroke
Heart Disease Facts | cdc.gov



In order to advance the scheme, the powers arranged against Trump simply ordered their minions, supporters, to claim deaths due to heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, were due to the Wuhan.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


No matter the actual cause........it's the Chinavirus!




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Wise up.
Michael Berry is another conservative radio talk show host who knows a lot about the real estate market and being charismatic but is NOT a scientist. He doesn't have a PHD or any other science degree.

He is more than capable of leading you down a path of pseudoscience (and there's a ton of it recently) that will lead you to a predetermined outcome.

The whole truth isn't ever what you want it to be...it simply is.
 
Michael Berry is another conservative radio talk show host who knows a lot about the real estate market and being charismatic but is NOT a scientist. He doesn't have a PHD or any other science degree.

He is more than capable of leading you down a path of pseudoscience (and there's a ton of it recently) that will lead you to a predetermined outcome.

The whole truth isn't ever what you want it to be...it simply is.

Michael Berry is another conservative radio talk show host who knows a lot about the real estate market and being charismatic but is NOT a scientist. He doesn't have a PHD or any other science degree.

He is more than capable of leading you down a path of pseudoscience (and there's a ton of it recently) that will lead you to a predetermined outcome.

The whole truth isn't ever what you want it to be...it simply is.



What are the symptoms of the perennial seasonal flu?



What are the symptoms of the Wuhan Red Death???




The answer: the same.

"The First Lady explained how she experienced “body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time”.
Melania Trump describes coronavirus 'rollercoaster' as son Barron also tested positive

The flu and the Wuhan are deadly only if it occurs in connection with worse conditions that would end the life of the patient even without the flu.

And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.




Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.





“Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”




Yet it served as the Democrat's reason to destroy the Trump miracle economy.



So….flu deaths are at a 130 year low for some reason…..Wuhan death numbers have exploded.



And, of course, this is in no way related to all the other lies from the Democrats since 2016.
 
What are the co-morbidities of every death that is claimed to be from the Wuhan?


Covid is simply the flu.

Even in the worst of flu seasons the death toll was around 60,000 with about 100 million people getting the flu.
 
“Heart disease is the leading cause of death for men, women, and people of most racial and ethnic groups in the United States. One person dies every 36 seconds in the United States from cardiovascular disease. About 655,000 Americans die from heart disease each year—that's 1 in every 4 deaths.Sep 8, 2020

From the CDC data for cause of death 2019 and 2020. Heart disease remained number one, with virtually the same number of deaths in 2019 as in 2020.

Second was cancer, and again the number of deaths from cancer in 2019 was virtually the same number of such deaths in 2020.

But the third leading cause in 2020 was COVID-19. Which accounted for the excess mortality, and demonstrates COVID was a cause by itself, and did not diminish the other two leading causes.
 
From the CDC data for cause of death 2019 and 2020. Heart disease remained number one, with virtually the same number of deaths in 2019 as in 2020.

Second was cancer, and again the number of deaths from cancer in 2019 was virtually the same number of such deaths in 2020.

But the third leading cause in 2020 was COVID-19. Which accounted for the excess mortality, and demonstrates COVID was a cause by itself, and did not diminish the other two leading causes.


No body died from the Wuhan.


But don't let me stop your hand-wringing.
 
No body died from the Wuhan.


But don't let me stop your hand-wringing.

About 400.000 more people died in the USA in 2020 as compared to 2019, or 2018 or 2017

Those excess deaths exactly match the number of COVID-19 deaths.
 

2019
•Heart disease: 659,041
•Cancer: 599,601
•Accidents (unintentional injuries): 173,040
•Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 156,979
•Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,005
•Alzheimer’s disease: 121,499
•Diabetes: 87,647





2020
Heart Disease, 690,000
Cancer, 598,000
Covid 345,000


COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause of 345,323 deaths during 2020 and was the third leading underlying cause of death, after heart disease (690,882 deaths) and cancer (598,932) (Figure 2).
 

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