Perceptions Are Trumps Policies Are Working

[rightwinger]

In contrast to the years of the Obama stimulus program, when the bulk of new jobs came in the public sector, it appears that the increase here is in the private sector. Moody’s Analytics says there were 298,000 new private sector jobs in February, far more than the 189,000 it expected.

Construction jobs were up 58,000, private educational services jobs up 29,000, manufacturing jobs up 28,000. This suggests that lots of employers, small as well as large, are taking the plunge and creating new jobs.

Can I prove that they’re doing so because of perceptions that regulations and taxes will be decreased by the Trump administration? No, and I’m not sure any economist’s statistical model could either. But that sure looks like what’s happening.

Perceptions are that Trump's policies are working

The owner of a small business doesn’t take lightly the decision to make new hires — those are real people you’re giving hope to, with the real expectation that you’ll make payroll week after week. The business climate matters a great deal, and maybe we’re finally seeing it turn around.

Trump jobs are all burger flipping jobs

 

[Dragonlady]

In contrast to the years of the Obama stimulus program, when the bulk of new jobs came in the public sector, it appears that the increase here is in the private sector. Moody’s Analytics says there were 298,000 new private sector jobs in February, far more than the 189,000 it expected.

Construction jobs were up 58,000, private educational services jobs up 29,000, manufacturing jobs up 28,000. This suggests that lots of employers, small as well as large, are taking the plunge and creating new jobs.

Can I prove that they’re doing so because of perceptions that regulations and taxes will be decreased by the Trump administration? No, and I’m not sure any economist’s statistical model could either. But that sure looks like what’s happening.

Perceptions are that Trump's policies are working

The owner of a small business doesn’t take lightly the decision to make new hires — those are real people you’re giving hope to, with the real expectation that you’ll make payroll week after week. The business climate matters a great deal, and maybe we’re finally seeing it turn around.

The job numbers are the same this February under Obama's policies as last year under Obama's policies. Obama's job creation was all in the private sector as well.

Trump hasn't passed any domestic legislation yet to affect job creation or taxation.

How you credit Trumps domestic policies for anything until they're enacted is beyond me. He's riding Obama's coattails on the good news for now.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Construction jobs were up 58,000, private educational services jobs up 29,000, manufacturing jobs up 28,000. This suggests that lots of employers, small as well as large, are taking the plunge and creating new jobs.

Can I prove that they’re doing so because of perceptions that regulations and taxes will be decreased by the Trump administration? No, and I’m not sure any economist’s statistical model could either. But that sure looks like what’s happening.

Where are these jobs? Who's offering them? I have shown below what companies' jobs they are not.

In many instances, one doesn't need to model whether the anticipated jobs result from Trump's policies. The execs at a lot of those companies have already stated the jobs were planned for before Trump took office, sometimes years in advance of that event and in other instances the companies have declined to attribute their job increases to Trump's actions, which frankly can only be called threats. The man hasn't seen passed any actual legislation, negotiated any deals, or written any EOs that have altered a thing that can be shown to have directly created new jobs or that the companies in question have attributed to Trump.

Among the companies that have announced new jobs they'll offer, Trump has claimed personal credit for having catalyzed those jobs' creation. The facts as go some 181K+ (the OP specifically notes a total of 118K jobs) jobs say and/or suggest otherwise:

• ExxonMobil -- The jobs are part of an Exxon project called Growing the Gulf, which was launched in 2013, and some share of the announced 45K jobs were created between 2013 and 2016. (45,000 jobs)
• General Motors -- 7000 jobs were in the works well before Trump; 900 jobs announced later were not attributed to anything having to do with Trump. (7900 jobs)
• Ford -- Ford's CEO made a point of saying the jobs don't have anything to do with Trump's efforts. (700 jobs)
• Fiat-Chrysler-- Fiat's CEO said, "I wish I could give him credit for this, but the thinking was in place beforehand." (2000 jobs)
• Walmart -- Didn't mention Trump in its announcement and its CEO declined to comment. (10,000 jobs)
• Intel -- The investment that would create it's announced 10K job was initiated in 2011. (10,000 jobs)
• Lockheed-Martin -- The positions Hewson announced are linked to production increases that have been in motion for years. Lockheed plans to deliver 150 jets in 2019, compared with 36 aircraft in 2014. (1800 jobs)
• Amazon -- Made no mention of Trump in its announcement of the new jobs it'll offer. The firm was projected to add lots of new jobs anyway as it's growing rapidly. (100,000 jobs)
• Alibaba -- After the January meeting, a reporter asked whether Ma and Trump talked about any investments in the U.S. "No," Ma replied. "We specifically talked about ... supporting 1 million businesses, especially in the Midwest of America." (The quantity of jobs is indeterminate.)
• SoftBank -- 3K jobs as a result of a long in the works deal with OneWeb. (3000 jobs)
• Carrier -- Attributes its 800 jobs to $7M in incentives offered by Indiana. (800 jobs)

When the senior executives at companies make statements like those noted above, one has no need for projections or econometric models in order to know what spurred the jobs being offered.

What's clear is that the timing is fortuitous for Trump, but based on the remarks of the noted companies' spokespersons, it would have been no less fortuitous for anyone else who became POTUS. Now, OP-er, if you have some specifics to show that the 118K jobs referenced in your OP have been specifically attributed to Trump, fine, by all means do share.

I don't have a problem with giving credit where it's due. I do have a problem Trump saying that the jobs have been created during his Administration; they have been. I have a problem with him taking credit personally for their being created during his Administration when it's clear he had nothing to do with it. It's just one more example of Trump claiming something that has no basis in fact.



New jobs are new jobs. They are good things for the people who need and obtain them, as well as for the economy as a whole. Let's not, however, forget what Trump promised to do...He promised to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. Also, lets not forget that well before Trump took office the U.S. has had a glut of some 3M to 5M jobs that employers have not been able to fill.

Private jobs create a robust economy, unlike the government jobs of Obama.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Construction jobs were up 58,000, private educational services jobs up 29,000, manufacturing jobs up 28,000. This suggests that lots of employers, small as well as large, are taking the plunge and creating new jobs.

Can I prove that they’re doing so because of perceptions that regulations and taxes will be decreased by the Trump administration? No, and I’m not sure any economist’s statistical model could either. But that sure looks like what’s happening.

Where are these jobs? Who's offering them? I have shown below what companies' jobs they are not.

In many instances, one doesn't need to model whether the anticipated jobs result from Trump's policies. The execs at a lot of those companies have already stated the jobs were planned for before Trump took office, sometimes years in advance of that event and in other instances the companies have declined to attribute their job increases to Trump's actions, which frankly can only be called threats. The man hasn't seen passed any actual legislation, negotiated any deals, or written any EOs that have altered a thing that can be shown to have directly created new jobs or that the companies in question have attributed to Trump.

Among the companies that have announced new jobs they'll offer, Trump has claimed personal credit for having catalyzed those jobs' creation. The facts as go some 181K+ (the OP specifically notes a total of 118K jobs) jobs say and/or suggest otherwise:

• ExxonMobil -- The jobs are part of an Exxon project called Growing the Gulf, which was launched in 2013, and some share of the announced 45K jobs were created between 2013 and 2016. (45,000 jobs)
• General Motors -- 7000 jobs were in the works well before Trump; 900 jobs announced later were not attributed to anything having to do with Trump. (7900 jobs)
• Ford -- Ford's CEO made a point of saying the jobs don't have anything to do with Trump's efforts. (700 jobs)
• Fiat-Chrysler-- Fiat's CEO said, "I wish I could give him credit for this, but the thinking was in place beforehand." (2000 jobs)
• Walmart -- Didn't mention Trump in its announcement and its CEO declined to comment. (10,000 jobs)
• Intel -- The investment that would create it's announced 10K job was initiated in 2011. (10,000 jobs)
• Lockheed-Martin -- The positions Hewson announced are linked to production increases that have been in motion for years. Lockheed plans to deliver 150 jets in 2019, compared with 36 aircraft in 2014. (1800 jobs)
• Amazon -- Made no mention of Trump in its announcement of the new jobs it'll offer. The firm was projected to add lots of new jobs anyway as it's growing rapidly. (100,000 jobs)
• Alibaba -- After the January meeting, a reporter asked whether Ma and Trump talked about any investments in the U.S. "No," Ma replied. "We specifically talked about ... supporting 1 million businesses, especially in the Midwest of America." (The quantity of jobs is indeterminate.)
• SoftBank -- 3K jobs as a result of a long in the works deal with OneWeb. (3000 jobs)
• Carrier -- Attributes its 800 jobs to $7M in incentives offered by Indiana. (800 jobs)

When the senior executives at companies make statements like those noted above, one has no need for projections or econometric models in order to know what spurred the jobs being offered.

What's clear is that the timing is fortuitous for Trump, but based on the remarks of the noted companies' spokespersons, it would have been no less fortuitous for anyone else who became POTUS. Now, OP-er, if you have some specifics to show that the 118K jobs referenced in your OP have been specifically attributed to Trump, fine, by all means do share.

I don't have a problem with giving credit where it's due. I do have a problem Trump saying that the jobs have been created during his Administration; they have been. I have a problem with him taking credit personally for their being created during his Administration when it's clear he had nothing to do with it. It's just one more example of Trump claiming something that has no basis in fact.



New jobs are new jobs. They are good things for the people who need and obtain them, as well as for the economy as a whole. Let's not, however, forget what Trump promised to do...He promised to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. Also, lets not forget that well before Trump took office the U.S. has had a glut of some 3M to 5M jobs that employers have not been able to fill.

Private jobs create a robust economy, unlike the government jobs of Obama.
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Is that just something you felt like writing or did you write that in direct response to a specific statement or question I wrote? If the latter, what?

 

[rightwinger]

In contrast to the years of the Obama stimulus program, when the bulk of new jobs came in the public sector, it appears that the increase here is in the private sector. Moody’s Analytics says there were 298,000 new private sector jobs in February, far more than the 189,000 it expected.

Construction jobs were up 58,000, private educational services jobs up 29,000, manufacturing jobs up 28,000. This suggests that lots of employers, small as well as large, are taking the plunge and creating new jobs.

Can I prove that they’re doing so because of perceptions that regulations and taxes will be decreased by the Trump administration? No, and I’m not sure any economist’s statistical model could either. But that sure looks like what’s happening.

Perceptions are that Trump's policies are working

The owner of a small business doesn’t take lightly the decision to make new hires — those are real people you’re giving hope to, with the real expectation that you’ll make payroll week after week. The business climate matters a great deal, and maybe we’re finally seeing it turn around.

The job numbers are the same this February under Obama's policies as last year under Obama's policies. Obama's job creation was all in the private sector as well.

Trump hasn't passed any domestic legislation yet to affect job creation or taxation.

How you credit Trumps domestic policies for anything until they're enacted is beyond me. He's riding Obama's coattails on the good news for now.

Trump brags about how great his economic numbers are but claimed Obama's equivalent numbers to be fake and "a disaster"