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Does this all mean that if "you" are not "white" you can't know how "whites" feel about "blacks"?
Zone1 When You Are not Black, You Really Don't Know
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Do not try telling us ten things blacks need to do in order to suceed after the record shows that whites have got at least 8 handouts in this history of this country and in the last century alone, the government invested a minimum of 100 trillion, and some have estimated the equivalent of over 1 quadrillion dolars to spur white wealth development while excluding blacks.
Do not try using white immigrant groups who used race to advance and discriminated/excluded against blacks in the process. That includes white Jews.
Do not try using Asians as examples when there are Asians are allowed a special visa designation that insures them jobs in American corporations. Do not try using a small number of Nigerans, who face the same racism and there are only 400,000 Nigerians which is less than one percent of the black population and 0.0012121212121212 percent of the American population as basis to argue. There are amost one million admitted white supremacists in America and if we use the arguments/logic the right does pertaining to race, we can argue that the presence of those white supremacists means that all whites are racist.
But if that was done, the whining would be at a record level.
It's time the excuses ended.
Do not try using white immigrant groups who used race to advance and discriminated/excluded against blacks in the process. That includes white Jews.
Do not try using Asians as examples when there are Asians are allowed a special visa designation that insures them jobs in American corporations. Do not try using a small number of Nigerans, who face the same racism and there are only 400,000 Nigerians which is less than one percent of the black population and 0.0012121212121212 percent of the American population as basis to argue. There are amost one million admitted white supremacists in America and if we use the arguments/logic the right does pertaining to race, we can argue that the presence of those white supremacists means that all whites are racist.
But if that was done, the whining would be at a record level.
It's time the excuses ended.
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No, because many whites have made it very plain. Lets stop trying the false equivaences.
Toddsterpatriot
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Do not try telling us ten things blacks need to do in order to suceed [sic].
You're right. Blacks don't need to change a thing. You're right where the dems want you.
there are only 400,000 Nigerians which is less than one percent of the black population and 0.0012121212121212 percent of the American population
The US population is 33,000,033,000? Over 33 billion?
I was wrong, blacks need to get better at math.
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Anyone who dislikes another simply based on skin color has worthless opinions. What more needs to be said? What attention do they deserve?
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AZtrailwhale:
"We are telling you what has worked for every other ethnic or immigrant group since the nation weas founded. You reject the results out of hand and call it racism".
This is how whites made it.
WHITE HANDOUTS
In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got 50 acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original 13 colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.
The Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. To qualify for Homestead land, a person had to be a citizen of the United States, and blacks were not given citizenship until 1866. Research shows that 99.73 percent of that land went to whites, including white immigrants. 1.5 million white families were given free land, the equivalent of a minimum of $500,000 per family. Today 93 million whites still benefit from the Homestead Act, this is about 40 percent of the current white population in America. This land has helped those whites accumulate the wealth they have today.
"But not only did they give them land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms."
"Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality." -Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
The government saw the need to provide education and services to assist whites moving west to help them survive on the free land the government was handing out. Because of that, the United States Congress passed the Morrill Act of 1862, better known as the Land Grant Act. The act gave each state 30,000 acres of land per senator to be used for educating homesteaders in the professions available during that time in America. The grants were used to build colleges making land grant colleges one result of the Morrill Act.
Blacks were not allowed to attend many Morrill Act institutions.
The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.29 This law created the Federal Housing Administration. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America. The FHA was able to create a guaranteed home loan program whereby potential homebuyers could get bank loans guaranteed against default by the government.
The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.” Black creditworthiness was no excuse for banks because the federal government guaranteed payment of the loans.
The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. When the act was signed, the law excluded occupations mainly done by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.
Title 4 of the Social Security Act provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position.
The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things, but… In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.
On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time, southern members of Congress fought the passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks. The G.I Bill was no different
Over 1 million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits.
My father was one of those soldiers. Therefore white racism has affected my life directly.
During the 20th century, numerous programs and policies were designed that provided race-based advantages by law for whites by every level of government in the United States. The policies excluded those who were not white; most excluded all who were not white and male.
According to the study, “Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: the Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black homeownership” written by Jane Kim, Federal housing policies that excluded blacks from funding provided the equivalent of 1.239 quintillion dollars to create white wealth in the 20th century.
From: Get Your Knees off Our Necks Chapter 4
The handouts given to whites over the course of this nations history are why whites have what they do. If not for these handouts, they would be nothing. None of these things have anything to do with the ways people like AZtrailwhale tell blacks to do in order to be successful. The government gave whites free land, then provided colleges and extension agencies to equip and help them learn how to work the free land. The government provided assustance for single white women with kids and no husband or man to help care for them. The government gave whites guaranteed loans that if that white person defaulted, the government would pay off the loan. So then it's time the racists ended the lectures to blacks about how we should do thiings. What we should do is petition the gvernment until we get the same monetary amount of assistance whites have been given.
Every other ethnic group has been helped by the government in major ways. The Asians who are making the most money do so because of the H 1B Visa that insures them high paying jobs. Japanese got Reparations in the 1980's. Suddenly during the 80's you saw Japanese businesses blowing up everywhere. When blacks tried to start businesses after slavery white mobs rioted and destroyed them. When blacks tried to own land white mobs terrorized, murdered, or stole the land by changing laws in order to take it. This is why I reject what AZtrailwhale has to say or any other white racist here who decides to try lecturing us on how we are to do things. Whites did not do things the way AZtrailwhale wants to tell me, and do not EVER again try lecturing blacks about education when we were excluded from white colleges and our learning materials until the late 60's or early 70's were hand me downs from white schools who were throwing textbooks away when they bought new ones. It is time some whites understood that the history you tell yourselves about this country is a lie and non whites don't want to hear it anymore.
"We are telling you what has worked for every other ethnic or immigrant group since the nation weas founded. You reject the results out of hand and call it racism".
This is how whites made it.
WHITE HANDOUTS
In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got 50 acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original 13 colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.
The Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. To qualify for Homestead land, a person had to be a citizen of the United States, and blacks were not given citizenship until 1866. Research shows that 99.73 percent of that land went to whites, including white immigrants. 1.5 million white families were given free land, the equivalent of a minimum of $500,000 per family. Today 93 million whites still benefit from the Homestead Act, this is about 40 percent of the current white population in America. This land has helped those whites accumulate the wealth they have today.
"But not only did they give them land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms."
"Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality." -Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
The government saw the need to provide education and services to assist whites moving west to help them survive on the free land the government was handing out. Because of that, the United States Congress passed the Morrill Act of 1862, better known as the Land Grant Act. The act gave each state 30,000 acres of land per senator to be used for educating homesteaders in the professions available during that time in America. The grants were used to build colleges making land grant colleges one result of the Morrill Act.
Blacks were not allowed to attend many Morrill Act institutions.
The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.29 This law created the Federal Housing Administration. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America. The FHA was able to create a guaranteed home loan program whereby potential homebuyers could get bank loans guaranteed against default by the government.
The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.” Black creditworthiness was no excuse for banks because the federal government guaranteed payment of the loans.
The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. When the act was signed, the law excluded occupations mainly done by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.
Title 4 of the Social Security Act provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position.
The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. Child labor was eliminated by this act. All these were good things, but… In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, he decided that industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.
On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time, southern members of Congress fought the passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks. The G.I Bill was no different
Over 1 million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits.
My father was one of those soldiers. Therefore white racism has affected my life directly.
During the 20th century, numerous programs and policies were designed that provided race-based advantages by law for whites by every level of government in the United States. The policies excluded those who were not white; most excluded all who were not white and male.
According to the study, “Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: the Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black homeownership” written by Jane Kim, Federal housing policies that excluded blacks from funding provided the equivalent of 1.239 quintillion dollars to create white wealth in the 20th century.
From: Get Your Knees off Our Necks Chapter 4
The handouts given to whites over the course of this nations history are why whites have what they do. If not for these handouts, they would be nothing. None of these things have anything to do with the ways people like AZtrailwhale tell blacks to do in order to be successful. The government gave whites free land, then provided colleges and extension agencies to equip and help them learn how to work the free land. The government provided assustance for single white women with kids and no husband or man to help care for them. The government gave whites guaranteed loans that if that white person defaulted, the government would pay off the loan. So then it's time the racists ended the lectures to blacks about how we should do thiings. What we should do is petition the gvernment until we get the same monetary amount of assistance whites have been given.
Every other ethnic group has been helped by the government in major ways. The Asians who are making the most money do so because of the H 1B Visa that insures them high paying jobs. Japanese got Reparations in the 1980's. Suddenly during the 80's you saw Japanese businesses blowing up everywhere. When blacks tried to start businesses after slavery white mobs rioted and destroyed them. When blacks tried to own land white mobs terrorized, murdered, or stole the land by changing laws in order to take it. This is why I reject what AZtrailwhale has to say or any other white racist here who decides to try lecturing us on how we are to do things. Whites did not do things the way AZtrailwhale wants to tell me, and do not EVER again try lecturing blacks about education when we were excluded from white colleges and our learning materials until the late 60's or early 70's were hand me downs from white schools who were throwing textbooks away when they bought new ones. It is time some whites understood that the history you tell yourselves about this country is a lie and non whites don't want to hear it anymore.
Toddsterpatriot
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When you're not black, you don't know organizatiin like this exist.
www.aapf.org
THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POLICY FORUM
Intersectionality | African American Policy Forum | United States
The African American Policy Forum is home to the SayHerName Campaign and an innovative think tank that connects academics, activists, and policy-makers to promote efforts to dismantle structural inequality. We utilize new ideas and innovative perspectives to transform public discourse and policy.
www.aapf.org
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“When you spend your dollar out of the community in which you live the community in which you spend your dollar becomes richer and richer; the community out of which you take your money becomes poorer and poorer.” -Malcolm X
Malcolm X did not attend the Harvard School of Business, Brandeis, or Penn State. He earned his “undergrad degree” at State Pen U. However, his opinion relative to economic development is spot on. The Civil Rights Movement was never finished. MLK was about to take things to another level.
King said in an interview befre he died that America had it easy relative to the civil rights movement. He said it cost nothing to integreate schools and lunch counters, but for true equality there had to be something done abut economic inequality. Unfortunately he got killed and that scared a bunch of potential new leaders to put pressure on the government to create methods of economic equality. So today it's about the economic equality blacks have been denied.
When we talk about reparations the ignorant begin popping off as if blacks have no plans or ideas. And nothing could be further from he truth. Here is one example.
View attachment 939401
FOR FAR TOO MANY AMERICANS, TRUE FINANCIAL FREEDOM HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE.
Our mission is to advance economic opportunity by providing the tools they need to reach their goals. We help individuals of all ages by offering financial education, one-on-one coaching, courses on credit score improvement, as well as pathways toward homeownership and starting a business.
The cycle of struggling to get by each month has dominated kitchen tables and the desks of small business owners for generations. It is more than just “pulling yourself up by the bootstraps”—it is about knowing how to navigate a financial system that requires knowledge, experience and expertise in order to generate economic security for families and business, and to pass that on to our children.
EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.
Operation HOPE has a broad array of individualized services that level the playing field by offering customized one-on-one programs for youth, adults, and disaster survivors—on their own or through their employers—to equip them with the financial knowledge and tools they need to create a more secure future – all at no cost.
WHY IT MATTERS
Economic inequality, financial illiteracy, social injustice, inequitable access to capital and lack of financial dignity are real and systemic issues that have hindered the economic growth and opportunity for under-served individuals and small businesses for over 400 years in America.
We recognize these problems are systemic and complex and require innovative and collaborative solutions from a variety of partners in government, community, and the private sector.
Operation HOPE partners with like-minded players to identify where the greatest impact can be achieved. HOPE offers tangible programs and initiatives that address these problems, establishes audacious long-term goals for improvement, creates and tracks key performance indicators to measure their progress, and then takes the lead in raising awareness, lobbying for change, rallying support and building coalitions to work towards eliminating these issues.
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Operation HOPE - Accelerating Financial Opportunity for All
Our mission is to advance economic opportunity by providing the tools they need to reach their goals.operationhope.org
Bragging about some pastor in Chicago building another job training center or fartherless homes shows just how much a person doesn't know about what a solution would be. Here we see an organization teaching financial literacy, fixing credit, etc.. THIS, will create a change.
What happens when you steal from stores in your community, forcing them to close?
They blame whites.
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“When you spend your dollar out of the community in which you live the community in which you spend your dollar becomes richer and richer; the community out of which you take your money becomes poorer and poorer.” -Malcolm X
Malcolm X did not attend the Harvard School of Business, Brandeis, or Penn State. He earned his “undergrad degree” at State Pen U. However, his opinion relative to economic development is spot on. The Civil Rights Movement was never finished. MLK was about to take things to another level.
King said in an interview befre he died that America had it easy relative to the civil rights movement. He said it cost nothing to integreate schools and lunch counters, but for true equality there had to be something done abut economic inequality. Unfortunately he got killed and that scared a bunch of potential new leaders to put pressure on the government to create methods of economic equality. So today it's about the economic equality blacks have been denied.
When we talk about reparations the ignorant begin popping off as if blacks have no plans or ideas. And nothing could be further from he truth. Here is one example.
View attachment 939401
FOR FAR TOO MANY AMERICANS, TRUE FINANCIAL FREEDOM HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE.
Our mission is to advance economic opportunity by providing the tools they need to reach their goals. We help individuals of all ages by offering financial education, one-on-one coaching, courses on credit score improvement, as well as pathways toward homeownership and starting a business.
The cycle of struggling to get by each month has dominated kitchen tables and the desks of small business owners for generations. It is more than just “pulling yourself up by the bootstraps”—it is about knowing how to navigate a financial system that requires knowledge, experience and expertise in order to generate economic security for families and business, and to pass that on to our children.
EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.
Operation HOPE has a broad array of individualized services that level the playing field by offering customized one-on-one programs for youth, adults, and disaster survivors—on their own or through their employers—to equip them with the financial knowledge and tools they need to create a more secure future – all at no cost.
WHY IT MATTERS
Economic inequality, financial illiteracy, social injustice, inequitable access to capital and lack of financial dignity are real and systemic issues that have hindered the economic growth and opportunity for under-served individuals and small businesses for over 400 years in America.
We recognize these problems are systemic and complex and require innovative and collaborative solutions from a variety of partners in government, community, and the private sector.
Operation HOPE partners with like-minded players to identify where the greatest impact can be achieved. HOPE offers tangible programs and initiatives that address these problems, establishes audacious long-term goals for improvement, creates and tracks key performance indicators to measure their progress, and then takes the lead in raising awareness, lobbying for change, rallying support and building coalitions to work towards eliminating these issues.
View attachment 939406
Operation HOPE - Accelerating Financial Opportunity for All
Our mission is to advance economic opportunity by providing the tools they need to reach their goals.
Bragging about some pastor in Chicago building another job training center or fartherless homes shows just how much a person doesn't know about what a solution would be. Here we see an organization teaching financial literacy, fixing credit, etc.. THIS, will create a change.
He should totally add a course on when rioting you shouldn't loot or destroy black owned Businesses ...or murder thier black shop keepers ...
I mean education is the key
I can say whatever I want about black people ...since I have some Italian in me that mean s I'm part ****** ...so piss off mods
We wuz kangs!
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What needs to be added is whites working to rid the racism in their own communities. Because whites riot and when they do, they destroy white owned businsses. So STFU
Deplorable Yankee
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Are yas gonna add the lesson for our brothers and sisters
Dear fellow negroes
When burning looting and murdering let's try and refrain from robbing and killing our own
Unless someone got beef then well it's on Chicago style
Pew pew pew
Oops I hit a 7 year old at a birthday party
Know what I came across the other day
That some white wayciss posted ...on another site
Articles from the 50s and 60s on how the blacks moving up north were committing an inordinate amount of crime and northern municipalities were scratching their heads over it
One was a New York times article .....the delved into black on black crime
Article o er a half century old
The more things change ...eh
Word
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Hm. This could have been a good discussion. It's a shame these threads always go this direction.
JoeB131
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My wife is Asian. She didn't get a special visa that ensured her a job. She was required to work to maintain her residency, though.
Asians who come here usually don't speak the language, but they are able to find jobs, work very hard, and don't complain. What they do right is they maintain strong families, they stay out of trouble, and they work hard. They don't whine incessantly that whitey wrong them.
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Generalizations are stupid.
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Are yas gonna add the lesson for our brothers and sisters
Dear fellow negroes
When burning looting and murdering let's try and refrain from robbing and killing our own
Unless someone got beef then well it's on Chicago style
Pew pew pew
Oops I hit a 7 year old at a birthday party
Know what I came across the other day
That some white wayciss posted ...on another site
Articles from the 50s and 60s on how the blacks moving up north were committing an inordinate amount of crime and northern municipalities were scratching their heads over it
One was a New York times article .....the delved into black on black crime
Article o er a half century old
The more things change ...eh
Word
And what you say wasn't happening in the 50's and 60's.
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