Nosmo King
Gold Member
Of the attacks we have suffered, no Americans were killed by immigrants from Muslim countries.Jihadists! Nice deflection!And what do you call it when you decide to levy tariff and duties on imported goods? Globalism or Isolationism?Here's what I think.
I think that Populism won the day. Why? Because for all their righteousness, the Conservatives have caused a rift in the GOP. By purging the ideologically unworthy, by flying off in fits of political pique shutting down the government, by careening from manufactured fiscal crisis to manufactured fiscal crisis, the Conservative wing lost sight of the political process altogether. They failed to form workable coalitions in congress and within the Republican party.
That left the GOP vulnerable to a Populist neophyte like Donald Trump.
But I have to wonder. What happened to all those Conservatives? Did they sell out just to defeat Sec. Clinton, or were they insincere in their stated principles to begin with?
As for Isolationism, consider scraping trade agreements, restricting immigration and walling off the southern border. Are these the actions of an Isolationist? Emphatically yes.
1. NOthing in your post addressed my point about the policies of "Free Trade" and Amnesty not working as predicted. You didn't feel that judging the policies by their results was worth commenting on nor relevant to the election. Think about that.
2. Your analysis that it was all the conservatives fault is very self serving.
3. Our trade policy has resulted in never before seen trade deficits, and massive loss of jobs. Scrapping THAT trade policy is not Isolationism. Emphatically NO.
4. We have 20 to 30 million illegals living in this country. THe opposite of that is not Isolationism. Emphatically NO.Free trade has always been championed by Conservatives. Were they wrong? If that's the case, were they wrong about supply side economics too?
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IMO, it is hard to say. Was the problem inherent to the concept or just a result of very poor implementation (ie letting other nations cheat).
Regardless, it does not matter why. THe important part is that current trade is harmful to American interests.
I am not blaming the Conservatives for everything. That is not my contention. I am wondering where they all went to. Why they failed to rally behind a candidate in 2016. And if they were sincere in their beliefs in their principles.
I would recommend reading archived news paper and magazine articles from the election. The clashes between the various outside candidates and the various establishment candidates on the issues was the talk of the nation for over a year.
You can see in detail how various factions supported various candidates and those candidates rose and fell, and how the issues and ideologies were debated greatly.
In the context of Current Day, I call it Not Being the World's Bitch on Trade. IF any of the nations in question come back with an offer of Mutually Beneficial Trade, that will be the test of whether or not Trump's policy is Isolationism.
What do you call it when you call for a border wall and mass deportations and a travel ban? Globalism or Isolationism?
When we have a nation to our south that has over twenty million of their citizens living in our nation, and we are regularly subjected to random mass murder by Jihadists?
I would call it Sanity.
1. I answered your question regarding Free Trade seriously and honestly. You ignored it.
2. You brought up the travel ban. I merely pointed out the reason for it, ie random mass murder by Jihadists. Your calling that a "Deflection" does not change the fact that a policy to avoid random mass murder is not Isolationism.