Obama wants to deny 3 million people congressional representation

[Rambunctious]

Except the Democrats aren't redistricting at will, they do it after the Census, which is when you are supposed to do it.

IN fact, NY lost five easy Dem seats because they complied with a court order to reject their initial map. (And Cuomo didn't do his job.)

Then how did the districts that look like spaghetti get in place in CA and Illinois and NY?.... if it were not for Democrat blue state gerrymandering the dems would never come close to leading the house or senate... memo to you... liberal progs are an extreme minority in America....

 

[Dekster]

Both sides do it. Hell I worked on it some for the dems when I worked in DC. We were not trying to redesign the NC electoral map with any other purpose in mind other than create dem safe seats. Our plan got rejected though by the courts thank god. I told them then I felt it was North Carolina's business to take care of, not ours, and I still believe it to this day.

 

[Rambunctious]

Obama's brand is worse than ever... no one likes him.... he is hated and most people want to see him in prison....

 

[Lesh]

MSN

Story by Amalia Huot-Marchand
Former President Obama joined a Zoom call with Texas state House Democrats on Thursday, calling the Republican redistricting effort in the state a “systematic assault on democracy.”

“What we all recognize is we can’t let a systematic assault on democracy just happen and stand by,” Obama said.

“And my hope is that rather than have a race to the bottom where every district is predetermined based on how it’s drawn, that over time, the American people, ideally with the help of the courts, realizes that there’s a better way,” he continued.

Texas Democratic state lawmakers fled the Lone Star State two weeks ago to break quorum and prevent a vote on a new redistricting map that would give the GOP five additional seats in the 2026 midterms.

Comment:
Barry Obama lied again.
The Texas population has increased by over 3 million.
Giving those 3 million new people representation in congress increases our democracy.
Obama wants to deny those people representation in congress which decreases our democracy.
Now if Barry is opposed to gerrymandering then he must demand that Democrat states undo their gerrymandering first.

Curious thing

Why is Trump trying to create five new Republican districts/Congressional seats?
Because he’s afraid he’s going to lose Congress next election

 

[Marener]

States can redistrict at any time.

That doesn’t give them any additional congressional seats so they’re not going to be getting any extra representation.

The whole thread premise is stupid.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hopefully those three million are US Citizens and not illegals like the dems want to count.

I would be disappointed if TX is trying to count illegals.

I do! I hope they are. Fight fire with fire. You can be sure they are using them im blue states, why tie your hands behind your back?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Except the Democrats aren't redistricting at will, they do it after the Census, which is when you are supposed to do it.

After another ten million alien invaders are counted?
Hmmm….totally legit

 

[ThisIsMe]

Again, are you ******* retarded?

We have a system.

45% of people in TX voted Democratic, but under the new plan, they only get 18% of the Congressional seats.

So who is denying people their right to representation?

And republicans vote 38% for trump in California yet they only hold 17% of the districts.

 

[Nostra]

Again, are you ******* retarded?

We have a system.

45% of people in TX voted Democratic, but under the new plan, they only get 18% of the Congressional seats.

So who is denying people their right to representation?

36% of Massachusetts voted for Trump, and they get ZERO Representation in Congress.

Did you say something about denying representation?

Next?

 

[ThisIsMe]

The congressional allotment per state is only changed every ten years with the census. That’s how it works

The population of any particular state obviously changes on a daily basis. It would not be possible to adjust the number of house members each state gets every time the population fluctuates.

Hence it’s only done with the official national census.

Which only happens every ten years.

Which happened last in 2020

Which means the next time won’t be until 2030

Get it?

...if we're being technical, actually it says the census can be taken "within ten years", not "every 10 years". You could take a census every year if you wanted and it would be constitutional

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Except the Democrats aren't redistricting at will, they do it after the Census, which is when you are supposed to do it.

IN fact, NY lost five easy Dem seats because they complied with a court order to reject their initial map. (And Cuomo didn't do his job.)

The Democrats also redistrict between cenuses

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/us/politics/redistricting-states-democrats-republicans.html

 

[alang1216]

Are you pretending you don’t understand how shit works?
Let me dumb it down and explain for dumb people…You America haters beg 40-50 dark people to invade the blue shitholes of America, then you count them in our census, then you grab an extra 20-30 seats through the congressional apportionment process…then the human cockroaches have litters of silver tooth filth who are granted stolen citizenships…These parasites all vote for free shit and **** whitee.
Again, notice that the party of filth foreigners and free shit owns Mexifornia and every shithole like it….You accomplished this on the backs of foreign invaders and by traitorous power grabs.
This is simple shit for third graders…do you purple hairs understand now?
Do you see why you have ZERO credibility when you scream “DEMOCRACY”?

Why do Right wing type hate so much? Is your life so terrible or is it you don't want to see others doing well? Whatever, I do know how things work and they don't work as you seem to think.

• 'dark people' invade the Red 'shitholes' of America, mainly TX and FL, and get counted in our census
• many of those 'extra' seats go to Red states
• no one is granted 'stolen' citizenships, the laws of this country govern the granting of citizenship
• many of those 'parasites' voted for Trump last election
• many Latinos lean to the Dems because of people just like you, it is hard to support people who hate you
• many of those 'foreign invaders' have lived in CA and the West far longer than Europeans

 

[braalian]

...if we're being technical, actually it says the census can be taken "within ten years", not "every 10 years". You could take a census every year if you wanted and it would be constitutional

Ok but they would be prohibitively expensive and impractical

 

[ThisIsMe]

All of those are great ideas!

The electoral college is worse than useless, as it limits the election to just a few swing states and imposes bad presidents the voters didn't want.

so you'd get rid of the electoral college, which gives power to swing states, and replace it with a popular vote, which would give all the power to a couple democratic states. I dont see the difference.

The Senate gives empty rectangles as much representation as states with millions of people.

No they dont. Wyoming has 2 senators and 1 representative, for a total of 3 votes.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Ok but they would be prohibitively expensive and impractical

But legal

 

[braalian]

so you'd get rid of the electoral college, which gives power to swing states, and replace it with a popular vote, which would give all the power to a couple democratic states. I dont see the difference.

That’s stupid logic.

One person, one vote

Every single GOP voter in every single state would get one vote just like every democrat voter in every state would get one vote

Nothing could be fairer

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Why do Right wing type hate so much? Is your life so terrible or is it you don't want to see others doing well? Whatever, I do know how things work and they don't work as you seem to think.

• 'dark people' invade the Red 'shitholes' of America, mainly TX and FL, and get counted in our census
• many of those 'extra' seats go to Red states
• no one is granted 'stolen' citizenships, the laws of this country govern the granting of citizenship
• many of those 'parasites' voted for Trump last election
• many Latinos lean to the Dems because of people just like you, it is hard to support people who hate you
• many of those 'foreign invaders' have lived in CA and the West far longer than Europeans

The Democrats fan the flames of racial hatred every chance that they get.
Most Left Wingers are angry racist bigots.
The Democrat Party purposely imported 11 million poor uneducated third worlders because the Lefts hate, racism and violence has alienated mainstream American voters.

 

[alang1216]

The Democrats fan the flames of racial hatred every chance that they get.

Not if USMB is any indication.

Most Left Wingers are angry racist bigots.

And most MAGAs are not?

The Democrat Party purposely imported 11 million poor uneducated third worlders because the Lefts hate, racism and violence has alienated mainstream American voters.

I think mainstream American voters are frightened they are losing their privileged status and need a scapegoat, one conveniently supplied by the very group that is hurting them the most, the GOP.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Representatives are reapportioned after the census which isn’t until 2030.

Do you guys not know anything about the constitution?

the constitution does not say that redistricting and census can't happen less then every 10 years.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Your argument was that I was somehow "un-American" for wanting to change the deficiencies in our system. (Funny, I have a DD214 that says otherwise)

So let's put these things to a vote and see how Americans feel about them.

I'm guessing... most of them would prevail

there is a process for that already it is called amending the Constitution. There is no process for a country wide vote on anything except the Presidency.