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Obama vows to amend faith-based program - 07/02/2008 - MiamiHerald.comWASHINGTON -- Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday that if he were elected president he would have his own version of President Bush's office of faith-based initiatives that would ''help set our national agenda'' and inject morality into policy debates about everything from AIDS to genocide.
Obama, who has criticized Bush's initiative as politicized and underfunded, would prohibit religious discrimination in hiring or services by the groups that received federal funds from his ''Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.'' He estimated that the program would cost about $500 million per year.
He said he would keep Bush's 11 faith-based offices and expand participation by smaller religious groups.
Sigh.
I wonder if by expanding participation to smaller groups he's talking about Muslims.
Obama vows to amend faith-based program - 07/02/2008 - MiamiHerald.com
Just more proof that non of us know who Obama is. The man says what ever he thinks the current people he is talking to wants to hear.
Charles
Politics as usual. Instead of bitching about the only 2 parties that America thinks they have to choose from we should be demanding something REALLY new. I'm beginning to think Americans love to be political victims and forget who is responsible for putting and keeping these idiots in office.
Obama cites faith as key to change - The Boston GlobeBut Obama's main message was the government's duty to address what he said are "moral problems" - such as war, poverty, joblessness, homelessness, violent streets, and crumbling schools - and to employ religious institutions to do it.
Well I have been calling for people to not vote for Either party and instead vote for the lesser party of their choice, or even right in someone, but people just call me an idiot for that IDea.
I still think it is the only way we will ever see real change.
What makes it brilliant, exactly? I find it pretty disturbing.
Obama cites faith as key to change - The Boston Globe
Barack Obama called "active faith" an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change in a speech yesterday at the national meeting of a black church group.
Stopping for about two hours in St. Louis, the Democratic presidential nominee implored thousands of members of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, one of the nation's largest and most politically active black denominations, to help fix national and local ills.
The very thing the left has been accusing the right of for years coming out of the lips of their "chosen one" and the nonparticipation in this thread is staggering.
As I have tried to point out more than once, Obama attends (or attended for over 20 years) a church that does not divorce its politics from its religion. The VERY thing certain fearmongering individuals will start accusing a Republican of if he just says the words "God" or "church."
Yet, here it is in black and white. The very thing the left has been accusing the right of for years coming out of the lips of their "chosen one" and the nonparticipation in this thread is staggering.
To be honest with you, the nonparticipation comes from your own faults. You can't cry wolf 5 times a week with "obama=muslim,communist,terrorist,racist,sexist, socialist, ect" bullshit and actually expect us to want to engage in an argument about whether Obama is pandering to the religious right. Make up your fucking mind about which lies you want to spread.
Fukin A charleston.. Which charleston are you from...To be honest with you, the nonparticipation comes from your own faults. You can't cry wolf 5 times a week with "obama=muslim,communist,terrorist,racist,sexist, socialist, ect" bullshit and actually expect us to want to engage in an argument about whether Obama is pandering to the religious right. Make up your fucking mind about which lies you want to spread.
How is this MY "own faults?" I haven't cried anything, nor have I accused him of anything more than his own actions and words support.
For your edification: I have not once called him a muslim, communist, racist terrorist, nor sexist, and most definitely have not once called him an et cetera.
Your attempt to deflect by attacking me with an unloaded weapon is duly noted and rejected. I am idealogically opposed to his leftwing ideology, and my primary concern from the beginning has been his relationship with a church and a pastor that do not keep their politics separate from their religion.
Which, btw, would be the topic of this thread.
The truth of the matter is, most of you Democrats/liberals are turning a blind eye to his doing the exact same thing you've been fearmongering about the GOP/conservatives doing for years.
It's really not any tougher to figure out than THAT.
Fukin A charleston.. Which charleston are you from...
Okay.. Obama was a comunity organizer... he knows that there is value in religious help groups.. he is not pandering. He is just applying what he knows.. this is the sign of a great man. Not the pandering politician that you right fucks are trying to paint him as...
btw.. I am part of the atheist crowd...
I'm in SouthCarolina.
Hey ya neighbor... I am actually south of broad, south of the ashley too however. That would put me square in the middle of James Island...
