Obama and the Art of Phoniness

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sums it up nicely.....Obama's as phony as a three dollar bill...thankfully the people are realizing it...too late for some of them who voted for him...but they will get to pay for it and it's going to be painful... do they deserve it, maybe..

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By Thomas Sowell

The president is more concerned about the effect of his words than their relation to fact.


Many years ago, I was a member of a committee that was recommending to whom grant money should be awarded. Since I knew one of the applicants, I asked if this meant that I should recuse myself from voting on his application.

“No,” the chairman said. “I know him too — and he is one of the truly great phonies of our time.

The man was indeed a very talented phony. He could convince almost anybody of almost anything — provided that they were not already knowledgeable about the subject. He had once spoken to me very authoritatively about Marxian economics, apparently unaware that I was one of the few people who had read all three volumes of Marx’s Capital and had published articles on Marxian economics in scholarly journals. What our glib talker was saying might have seemed impressive to someone who had never read Capital, as most people have not. But it was complete nonsense to me.

Incidentally, he did not get the grant he applied for.

This episode came back to me recently, as I read an incisive column by Charles Krauthammer, citing some of the many gaffes in public statements by the president of the United States. One presidential gaffe in particular gives the flavor and suggests the reason for many others. It involved the Falkland Islands.

Argentina has recently been demanding that Britain return the Falkland Islands, which have been occupied by Britons for nearly two centuries. In 1982, Argentina seized these islands by force, only to have British prime minister Margaret Thatcher take the islands back by force.

With Argentina today beset by domestic problems, demanding the return of the Falklands is once again a way for Argentina’s government to distract the Argentine public’s attention from the country’s economic and other woes.

Because the Argentines call these islands “the Malvinas,” rather than “the Falklands,” Barack Obama decided to use the Argentine term. But he referred to them as “the Maldives.” It so happens that the Maldives are thousands of miles away from the Malvinas. The former are in the Indian Ocean, while the latter are in the South Atlantic.

Nor is this the only gross misstatement that President Obama has gotten away with, thanks to the mainstream media, which sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil when it comes to Obama.

The presidential gaffe that struck me when I heard it was Barack Obama’s reference to a military corps as a military “corpse.” He is obviously a man who is used to sounding off about things he has paid little or no attention to in the past. His mispronunciation of a common military term was especially revealing to someone who was once in the Marine Corps, not Marine “corpse.”
Like other truly talented phonies, Barack Obama concentrates his skills on the effect of his words on other people — most of whom do not have the time to become knowledgeable about the things he is talking about. Whether what he says bears any relationship to the facts is politically irrelevant. A talented con man or a slick politician does not waste his time trying to convince knowledgeable skeptics. His job is to keep the true believers believing. He is not going to convince the others anyway.[/QUOTE]

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Obama and the Art of Phoniness | National Review Online
 
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During the National Prayer Breakfast, President Obama mispronounced the word "corpsman" twice, and he got the name of the corpsman wrong.

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sums it up nicely.....Obama's as phony as a three dollar bill...thankfully the people are realizing it...too late for some of them who voted for him...but they will get to pay for it and it's going to be painful... do they deserve it, maybe..

SNIP:

By Thomas Sowell

The president is more concerned about the effect of his words than their relation to fact.


Many years ago, I was a member of a committee that was recommending to whom grant money should be awarded. Since I knew one of the applicants, I asked if this meant that I should recuse myself from voting on his application.

“No,” the chairman said. “I know him too — and he is one of the truly great phonies of our time.

The man was indeed a very talented phony. He could convince almost anybody of almost anything — provided that they were not already knowledgeable about the subject. He had once spoken to me very authoritatively about Marxian economics, apparently unaware that I was one of the few people who had read all three volumes of Marx’s Capital and had published articles on Marxian economics in scholarly journals. What our glib talker was saying might have seemed impressive to someone who had never read Capital, as most people have not. But it was complete nonsense to me.

Incidentally, he did not get the grant he applied for.

This episode came back to me recently, as I read an incisive column by Charles Krauthammer, citing some of the many gaffes in public statements by the president of the United States. One presidential gaffe in particular gives the flavor and suggests the reason for many others. It involved the Falkland Islands.

Argentina has recently been demanding that Britain return the Falkland Islands, which have been occupied by Britons for nearly two centuries. In 1982, Argentina seized these islands by force, only to have British prime minister Margaret Thatcher take the islands back by force.

With Argentina today beset by domestic problems, demanding the return of the Falklands is once again a way for Argentina’s government to distract the Argentine public’s attention from the country’s economic and other woes.

Because the Argentines call these islands “the Malvinas,” rather than “the Falklands,” Barack Obama decided to use the Argentine term. But he referred to them as “the Maldives.” It so happens that the Maldives are thousands of miles away from the Malvinas. The former are in the Indian Ocean, while the latter are in the South Atlantic.

Nor is this the only gross misstatement that President Obama has gotten away with, thanks to the mainstream media, which sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil when it comes to Obama.

The presidential gaffe that struck me when I heard it was Barack Obama’s reference to a military corps as a military “corpse.” He is obviously a man who is used to sounding off about things he has paid little or no attention to in the past. His mispronunciation of a common military term was especially revealing to someone who was once in the Marine Corps, not Marine “corpse.”
Like other truly talented phonies, Barack Obama concentrates his skills on the effect of his words on other people — most of whom do not have the time to become knowledgeable about the things he is talking about. Whether what he says bears any relationship to the facts is politically irrelevant. A talented con man or a slick politician does not waste his time trying to convince knowledgeable skeptics. His job is to keep the true believers believing. He is not going to convince the others anyway.

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Obama and the Art of Phoniness | National Review Online[/QUOTE]



Oh, please.....You really want to go there? Did you have a problem with the previous president's inarticulation? Can I say, "phuck no" for you?

Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.


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Well that was a massive waste of board space attempting (I guess?) to prove that Barack Obama isn't prone to mistruths and waxing eloquent about things he knows little about by providing a rather petty list of misstatements by W.

I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Thomas Sowell at Amherst College back in the 70's. Wonderful professor. He's spot on about Barack Obama. Obama's entire life has been about sounding good. When you look at what he's actually accomplished in his adult life it's actually remarkable how little he's done that's exceptional. He wasn't a great lawyer. Wasn't a great college lecturer. Wasn't a great legislator. Then people wonder why he hasn't been a great President?

He would make a fantastic anchor person. His skills lie in public speaking from a teleprompter. Other than that he's rather pedestrian in whatever it is that he's tried.
 
Well that was a massive waste of board space attempting (I guess?) to prove that Barack Obama isn't prone to mistruths and waxing eloquent about things he knows little about by providing a rather petty list of misstatements by W.

I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Thomas Sowell at Amherst College back in the 70's. Wonderful professor. He's spot on about Barack Obama. Obama's entire life has been about sounding good. When you look at what he's actually accomplished in his adult life it's actually remarkable how little he's done that's exceptional. He wasn't a great lawyer. Wasn't a great college lecturer. Wasn't a great legislator. Then people wonder why he hasn't been a great President?

He would make a fantastic anchor person. His skills lie in public speaking from a teleprompter. Other than that he's rather pedestrian in whatever it is that he's tried.

aint that the truth....
 
sums it up nicely.....Obama's as phony as a three dollar bill...thankfully the people are realizing it...too late for some of them who voted for him...but they will get to pay for it and it's going to be painful... do they deserve it, maybe..

SNIP:

By Thomas Sowell

The president is more concerned about the effect of his words than their relation to fact.


Many years ago, I was a member of a committee that was recommending to whom grant money should be awarded. Since I knew one of the applicants, I asked if this meant that I should recuse myself from voting on his application.

“No,” the chairman said. “I know him too — and he is one of the truly great phonies of our time.

The man was indeed a very talented phony. He could convince almost anybody of almost anything — provided that they were not already knowledgeable about the subject. He had once spoken to me very authoritatively about Marxian economics, apparently unaware that I was one of the few people who had read all three volumes of Marx’s Capital and had published articles on Marxian economics in scholarly journals. What our glib talker was saying might have seemed impressive to someone who had never read Capital, as most people have not. But it was complete nonsense to me.

Incidentally, he did not get the grant he applied for.

This episode came back to me recently, as I read an incisive column by Charles Krauthammer, citing some of the many gaffes in public statements by the president of the United States. One presidential gaffe in particular gives the flavor and suggests the reason for many others. It involved the Falkland Islands.

Argentina has recently been demanding that Britain return the Falkland Islands, which have been occupied by Britons for nearly two centuries. In 1982, Argentina seized these islands by force, only to have British prime minister Margaret Thatcher take the islands back by force.

With Argentina today beset by domestic problems, demanding the return of the Falklands is once again a way for Argentina’s government to distract the Argentine public’s attention from the country’s economic and other woes.

Because the Argentines call these islands “the Malvinas,” rather than “the Falklands,” Barack Obama decided to use the Argentine term. But he referred to them as “the Maldives.” It so happens that the Maldives are thousands of miles away from the Malvinas. The former are in the Indian Ocean, while the latter are in the South Atlantic.

Nor is this the only gross misstatement that President Obama has gotten away with, thanks to the mainstream media, which sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil when it comes to Obama.

The presidential gaffe that struck me when I heard it was Barack Obama’s reference to a military corps as a military “corpse.” He is obviously a man who is used to sounding off about things he has paid little or no attention to in the past. His mispronunciation of a common military term was especially revealing to someone who was once in the Marine Corps, not Marine “corpse.”

Like other truly talented phonies, Barack Obama concentrates his skills on the effect of his words on other people — most of whom do not have the time to become knowledgeable about the things he is talking about. Whether what he says bears any relationship to the facts is politically irrelevant. A talented con man or a slick politician does not waste his time trying to convince knowledgeable skeptics. His job is to keep the true believers believing. He is not going to convince the others anyway.

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Obama and the Art of Phoniness | National Review Online

By the way, the part of your text I highlighted in red is essentially what I believe Mitt Romney was trying to say in his secretly recorded 47% speech.

That he should focus his efforts on winning the votes of the remaining 53% of the electorate because 47% were not going to switch from Obama no matter what Romney did or said.

Ted Cruz wouldn't have missed a beat, he'd have quickly cleared up that misunderstanding but poor ol Mitt, well, he WAS the best man for the job but not the best man at lying and manipulating to get the job or going toe to toe with such a devil as Obama in a nationwide campaign for POTUS.

Anyway, yeah. I was aware that Obama was hiding stuff about himself during his first term. But I wasn't SURE of his absolute perfidy until the re-election campaign and the Benghazi murders took place.

Even if it is hours away you STILL send what you can as soon as you can to reach your besieged Ambassador in a dangerous country with only a minimal number of bodyguards between him and death.

You don't know how long the battle will take. It might last a few minutes or a few days (Black Hawk Down took place over the course of two days IIRC). So, you send as much as you can as soon as you can and you don't stop until you reach them...dead or alive.

That's when I knew it was more than just the vicissitudes of the job. He was hiding something he didn't want known or else he'd have sent a company or a battalion of combat ready Marines (Happy Birthday today, Devil Dogs!) and the first thing smoking overhead to provide more timely support.

Since then I've been consumed with doing what I can to present evidence of his unsuitability for the job and trying to see through his lies to know whether he is just incompetent or intentionally sabotaging this country or both.

I say it is both.

He does have an agenda to bring America down a notch.

He announced it with his statement to fundamentally transform America.

But he is ALSO incompetent. Look at the roll out of Obamacare.

Not that I am complaining! I'm GLAD it's not going well!

It was designed to take our freedom away from US and give us nothing more than most Americans already had. I.E. affordable health care. But it doesn't even accomplish THAT task. Premiums are from 60 - 100% higher than our previous insurance coverage and then there's the lying. He KNEW that 93 million people were not going to be able to keep their present coverage. Even if ACA was rolled out perfectly, millions would now be without coverage anyway!!!

He intentionally lied to get his way...to gain control over US.

To make US subjects of the government!!!

And who has more power over US to make us do as they wish than someone with the power over our health care?

The Government...ANY government...is too powerful with this power.

There's a good, common sense, piece of advice expressed plainly and attributed to a Mormon (unsurprisingly, as they are good common sense people, generally speaking) which goes:

Don't give up what you want most, for what you want now.

And Obama is trying to get us all to give up our freedom...what this country was built on...Individual Freedom...in exchange for what we want and need in the present term... health care.

He is both a con man and an inept, dangerous mole in the White House who must be peacefully removed as soon as possible to stop him from doing any more damage to this country, intentionally or not!
 
Anybody up for Bush buffoonery from 2000-2004?

Bush never tried to make you his bitch.

That is Obama's wet dream!

Making us subjects of HIS government.

We are supposed to be the bosses and the government is supposed to follow our orders.

Not the other way around.

Now, how bad was Bush???

Obama wants to screw you in the ass til you like it and are dependent on him and his government for everything.

Those who support that deserve to live in a 3rd world country with a despot as your ruler!

THIS IS THE USA BITCH! WAKE UP!!!
 
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Well that was a massive waste of board space attempting (I guess?) to prove that Barack Obama isn't prone to mistruths and waxing eloquent about things he knows little about by providing a rather petty list of misstatements by W. ......

No, it was an example of how idiots like you turned a blind eye to sheer fucking stupidity at its highest level for 8 years.

And I'm sure your beloved professor is a purveyor of facts over opinion. Your post oozes it.

 
Anybody up for Bush buffoonery from 2000-2004?

Bush never tried to make you his bitch.

That is Obama's wet dream!

Making us subjects of HIS government.

We are supposed to be the bosses and the government is supposed to follow our orders.

Not the other way around.

Now, how bad was Bush???

Obama wants to screw you in the ass til you like it and are dependent on him and his government for everything.

Those who support that deserve to live in a 3rd world country with a despot as your ruler!

THIS IS THE USA BITCH! WAKE UP!!!

Oh god, you need to go back and...... just start by getting your GED. Then try posting again.
 
I see no one else can post pages upon pages of ignorant and misguided quotes by Obama. They just want to attack the messenger.

Losers.
 
Anybody up for Bush buffoonery from 2000-2004?

Bush never tried to make you his bitch.

That is Obama's wet dream!

Making us subjects of HIS government.

We are supposed to be the bosses and the government is supposed to follow our orders.

Not the other way around.

Now, how bad was Bush???

Obama wants to screw you in the ass til you like it and are dependent on him and his government for everything.

Those who support that deserve to live in a 3rd world country with a despot as your ruler!

THIS IS THE USA BITCH! WAKE UP!!!

Oh god, you need to go back and...... just start by getting your GED. Then try posting again.

Your snippy little rebuttal doesn't hide the fact that Obamacare was a LIE from the beginning til the end.

And you are still supporting and defending it.

Tell me, do you APPROVE of the Government being your boss and telling you what you can and can't do (whether it be with GWB or BHO or WJC in the White House)?

Do you like the President manipulating the laws so that, "we the people" will instead be, "we the subjects of the US Government?"

Just answer me that, smart guy.

Certainly someone with their G.E.D., (presumably like yourself) will have the right answer to such a simple question.

Right?

:)
 
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Well that was a massive waste of board space attempting (I guess?) to prove that Barack Obama isn't prone to mistruths and waxing eloquent about things he knows little about by providing a rather petty list of misstatements by W. ......

No, it was an example of how idiots like you turned a blind eye to sheer fucking stupidity at its highest level for 8 years.

And I'm sure your beloved professor is a purveyor of facts over opinion. Your post oozes it.


I'd be more than happy to discuss facts about Barack Obama, NoTea...your problem is that you want us to accept the "myth" of Obama rather than look at who he truly is.

I did love Sowell. The thing that I found most intriguing about Thomas Sowell is that he was an avowed Marxist as a young man. He believed in many of the same things that progressives now believe in. His conversion came about when he started studying the economies of communist countries and found that what he had believed to be true simply didn't work in the real world. At that point he became what now passes for a libertarian. He's not a stick in the mud ideologue...he's a rather pragmatic ex-Marine academic...which is in and of itself rather amazing.
 
And I hate to point out the obvious here, NoTea but when it comes down to competence...Barack Obama isn't even close to W. I'm sorry, but he's just NOT! His entire presidency has been one fuck up after another. He has no plan to fix the economy. His foreign policy is so confused at this point that nobody knows WHAT the US stands for or what we can be counted on to do. He's the first US President to have a credit downgrade on his watch because the government that HE heads is so polarized and broken.
 

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