Obama Advisor David Axelrod: Preventing Trump From Running in 2024 Would ‘Rip the Country Apart’

[Vastator]

The Dems would sooner give the keys to the kingdom to the CCP, than turn the Whitehouse over to Trump.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Will you be afraid to face me with my classic M1-Garand/Colt M1911-45 auto or in Hand to Hand combat if it happens? Answer me you little beta male.

That won’t happen, You will be cowardly shooting unarmed black people in supermarkets and churches or standing in line to vote because you suspect they vote Democratic Party by the color of their skin.

Have you figured out how you know who to shoot in a war where neither side is wearing a uniform?

 

[Chillicothe]

Early on the last day of the year, we enter the Mos Eisley Cantina and see the, umm, peculiarity of many of the patrons. Still, it can be entertaining, tho seldom informational. But hell, let's ask. Maybe at the end of the year, some here will seek the road to redemption?
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Actually that's what Biden wants, to rip the country apart.

Why would he want to do that?
He's been a life long civic leader here in America, it has been good to him. He has grandchildren that will live in this America long after he is gone. He has a positive 'legacy' of accomplishment that he naturally would want to live after him. Yet, you claim he wants all that destroyed?
Would you please explain your thinking to the forum so that the posters and lurker here will know just exactly what you mean, MAGAman? And we can then judge accordingly.

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dims would rather tear the country apart than lose to Trump in 2024

I'm gonna assume the poster 'yidnar' is referring to Democrats when he says "dims". Regardless, of who he is referencing.......the obvious question is "why would any citizen want to "tear-the-country-apart"....if they live here, have children, grandchildren, property, and graves of ancestors here? Why would any citizen want this country that has been so good for so many to be 'torn apart"?
Please explain yourself, poster 'yidnar'.....so the forum can better judge your rationale for claiming what you claim.....and your qualifications and gravitas for claiming such.

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Division and chaos is what the Democrats work on every single day.

MMike.....see the queries above that have been posed to posters 'yidnar' and 'MAGAman'....the queries can apply to you too. Why would citizens...Democrat or whoever...want division and chaos in a country that they live in, and raise their families in. It seems somewhat illogical. However, we are willing to listen to your articulate explanation of why they would be so motivated, and why you think that.
Thanks in advance.

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[Chillicothe]

I honestly think that tearing the country apart is exactly what Obama's followers in the Biden admin would like to see happen.

OK, you too, Flops. Explain yourself. Why would citizens want to live in a country that is torn apart? On the face of it, it seems your allegation makes no sense. But the forum is willing to listen (or read) your thoughtful explanation of why what you claim would be beneficial.
Thanks in advance.
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You have to view their actions under the assumption that is is possible that they simply hate the United States.

See above queries. They apply to this allegation of "hate" also. Meaning, explain your rationale Flops. Why what you claim could be true. Thanks in advance.
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Any group within a party that would push agendas to affect their own safety from other groups within the same are certifiable power mongers.

????? I gotta admit, poster 22cid, so many of your postings are so convoluted and obscure that your meaning ain't easily understandable. Just exactly what is it you are alluding to?
Please explain yourself. Thanks in advance.
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We need to split. I hope we avoid the war, but no longer care.

OK, Sue....you claim "we need to split". Got it.
But how would you do it? What is the split that you seemingly desire? By political beliefs? Republican/MAGA/RINO/Democrat/Independent? Religion? Geography? Gender? Race? Religion? Education? Net worth?

Please explain yourself. Lest we think your post above is no deeper than trite bumper-sticker aphorisms.
You have now an opportunity to articulate and demonstrate your thoughtfulness and your gravitas.
Thanks in advance.

Will you be afraid to face me with my classic M1-Garand/Colt M1911-45 auto or in Hand to Hand combat if it happens?

Oh, boy. More keyboard-toughguyisms. MAGA-world and Macholandia....seem to collect those types like shed cat hair.
Personally, I think this keyboard posturing is a silly little-boy inadequacy complex. IMHO. And no offense intended.

 

[Crepitus]

We need to split. I hope we avoid the war, but no longer care. Congrats, you killed America. Happy?

Feel free to leave whenever you're ready.

 

[Seymour Flops]

In the end, for me, it's not what the politicos did that killed our nation.

It's people here and everywhere who cry about "democracy" but line up for fascist tactics, and don't care. It's creeps like Crepitus and so many others who imagine that, when we finally do become Venezuela, they will somehow be on the winning end.

They're small-minded little comrades. But such is the "arc of history" they love to cite.

The part I bolded is the key. You hit it on the head with that.

The reason these progressive Democrats are never embarassed by the constant stream of obvious lies being fed to them by those they follow is that each of them truly thinks that they are in on the joke. They believe that this absurd prank is being played only on dumb religious righties, wealthy Republicans who will get their comumpance, and Trump worshippers. But not themselves, because they know what's up.

They think we are dumb enough to fall for it, no matter how many times we call out their lies. When they realize we are not that dumb after all, they fall back on "prooooove it," and then proclaim any proof offered as not good enough.

Normal people need to stop worrying about convincing them or saving them from having their feelings hurt to badly and do what we need to do to make sure they cannot get anymore government backing for their insanity. Stupid standing alone is annoying. Stupid in charge of uniforms and guns can do real harm.

 

[Seymour Flops]

OK, you too, Flops. Explain yourself. Why would citizens want to live in a country that is torn apart? On the face of it, it seems your allegation makes no sense. But the forum is willing to listen (or read) your thoughtful explanation of why what you claim would be beneficial.
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know that they think that far ahead. If they do, it is to some vague future in which everything is better, somehow.

Their basic premise is that the United States is such a racist, aggressive, brutal, fascist, theocratic, and pyramid schemed hellhole, that any action which bring it down a peg or two is good and any action that moves it toward greatness is not only doomed to failure, but morally wrong because America does not deserve to be great.

How else to explain the visceral hatred for the slogan "Make America Great Again?" Do you remember how a few years ago, "Black Lives Matter" was used as a gotcha question? Like "Do you support Black Lives Matter?" with the premise that if a politicians said no, it would be reported that he or she doesn't think that black lives matter, not that he or she did not support the riots, and the corruption of that organization.

I thought the same would be true of Make America Great Again, when I first heard the phrase. Like reporters would ask "don't you also want to make America great?" and the Democrats asked would stumble and explain how he DID want America to be great again, but Trump's ideas won't accomlish that.

But no.

"MAGA" was immediately siezed by Democrats/progressives/wokesters - and the media - as a phrase to be targeted for ridicule and hatred. Biden bleats it like a sheep in ridiculing the idea of making America great again. They don't believe that America ever was great, and certainly do not want it to become great "again."

See above queries. They apply to this allegation of "hate" also. Meaning, explain your rationale Flops. Why what you claim could be true. Thanks in advance.
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You want me to give you how those ideas I attribute to them make sense? I can't, because they don't. I don't know that they are capable of connecting dots for a logical thought. It reminds me of a phrase in Ayn Rand's writing, "Atlas Shrugged" if I remember correctly. One of the socialist/progressive government official characters, intent on holding power, said WTTE of "I have plans and they are not going to be stopped by a syllogism," meaning that he would specifally not let logic get in the way of using force to make people comply with his plans.

My only guess as to the reason for their seeming self-destructive actions is the one already stated by SweetSue92. They seem to believe that whatever country comes into being after they destroy this one, they will somehow be on the winning team. That they will only be in the re-education camps as instructors, administrators, and guards, not as inmates.

You ask me to describe the logic of the left, and I have to admit you have me stumped. It's like asking me to describe Lia Thomas' vagina. It ain't there. Young women were forced to see that he has a (aparently substantial) slong where a vagina would be - if he were a woman.

A progressive would immediately call me a transphobe for the above statement, having failed in my duty to go along with Mr. Thomas' pretended delusion and speculate a description of his imaginary lady part.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Last year at this time a conversation was had on an issue that divides Americans:

Seymour Flops in #1 22.12. 29 wrote: {{ Thread titled “For Christians who believe in Darwinian evolution, question…. ”}} “Does that mean that you believe that God had absolutely no hand in the propagation of millions of species of plant, fungus, and animal life on Earth? •¥• “Did God just watch it all unfold for billions of years, and then when humans evolved, decide that they are so sinful that he must take human form to suffer and die for those sins?” •¥¥• symrflps.22.12.29 #1​

ding in #189 23.01.02 wrote: “I believe God put himself on trial because he's got a wicked sense of humor as we blame God daily for shit. So he just did what we were going to do anyway. God suffering death was God showing us how to make sacrifices. He never said a word. He just took it. We bitch about every little thing.” •¥• dvng.23.01.02 #189 to symrflps.22.12.29 #1​

Right now …

Their basic premise

What is your basic premise Saint Seymourflops? I will give you mine because you are not expressing my premise at all.

MAGA Macho Man in #2 23.12.30 wrote: “Actually that's what Biden wants, to rip the country apart.” mvgvmm.23.12.30 #1

Chillicothe in #25 23.12.31 wrote: Why would he want to do that? •¥¥¥• #25 to mvgvmm #1

Please Tell the readers Saint Seymourflops why you as a creationist and law abiding American citizen why you are absolutely convinced that Joe Biden, a Catholic (perhaps a Darwinist) and the most multicultural and most multi-racial live and let live voters for his progressive minded political party in the greatest nation ever created in the entire history of the world, wants to rip it up, tear this great nation apart, destroy it, and leave nothing for his and our progeny?

nf.23.12.31 #28
to symrflps.23.12.31 #27

 

[Moonglow]

If Trump is not punished he and others will try again to take control when they lose.

 

[MarathonMike]

Early on the last day of the year, we enter the Mos Eisley Cantina and see the, umm, peculiarity of many of the patrons. Still, it can be entertaining, tho seldom informational. But hell, let's ask. Maybe at the end of the year, some here will seek the road to redemption?
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Why would he want to do that?
He's been a life long civic leader here in America, it has been good to him. He has grandchildren that will live in this America long after he is gone. He has a positive 'legacy' of accomplishment that he naturally would want to live after him. Yet, you claim he wants all that destroyed?
Would you please explain your thinking to the forum so that the posters and lurker here will know just exactly what you mean, MAGAman? And we can then judge accordingly.

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I'm gonna assume the poster 'yidnar' is referring to Democrats when he says "dims". Regardless, of who he is referencing.......the obvious question is "why would any citizen want to "tear-the-country-apart"....if they live here, have children, grandchildren, property, and graves of ancestors here? Why would any citizen want this country that has been so good for so many to be 'torn apart"?
Please explain yourself, poster 'yidnar'.....so the forum can better judge your rationale for claiming what you claim.....and your qualifications and gravitas for claiming such.

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MMike.....see the queries above that have been posed to posters 'yidnar' and 'MAGAman'....the queries can apply to you too. Why would citizens...Democrat or whoever...want division and chaos in a country that they live in, and raise their families in. It seems somewhat illogical. However, we are willing to listen to your articulate explanation of why they would be so motivated, and why you think that.
Thanks in advance.

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I agree that it is illogical to support the current Democratic Party that has morphed into an anti-American hostile force. Supporters like yourself have been successfully conditioned by Democrat controlled Media to think that the border is just fine, that 75,000 Americans a year dying from Fentanyl poisoning is just fine, 10,000 unknown migrants entering our country per day is just fine, undermining law enforcement is just fine, changing election laws is just fine and Trump is evil and must be destroyed.

Democrats want division and chaos in the country because in order to transform the country into a Marxist state, they need to disrupt and destroy what is here now. That is why they tear down statues, rename schools, air bases, streets etc. That is why they push Slavery and reparations. That is why they make a mockery of the Constitution. That is why they are importing millions of "new" potential Americans. That is why they took over prime time TV Media and push their Party narratives and attack their number one enemy Donald Trump relentlessly with one absurd "indictment" after another.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Reality Check - Most Americans who vote regardless of political affiliation are protective of progressive gains made since America’s founding. We have a recent validation of that reality in the recent abortion rights for women amendnent to the Ohio Constitution.

The Republican Party wants to tear that right away.

 

[Chillicothe]

Supporters like yourself have been successfully conditioned by Democrat controlled Media ......Democrats want division and chaos in the country because in order to transform the country into a Marxist state, they need to disrupt and destroy what is here now.

Poster Flops: (Democrats think)... they will somehow be on the winning end.
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Alternatively, we have Trump alter-ego, campaign manager, and thought-leader, Steve Bannon:

“The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”
"I'm a Leninist. Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today's establishment."


As I have read on the USMB chatroom......our QAnon/MAGA contributors too often validate the widespread perception throughout America, and likely the world, that they are uninformed, under-educated, un-read, ne'er-do-wells who have failed to be successful in today's America....and pine for an imaginary America that never was, where they are convinced they then can be as successful, or more successful, than their community neighbors.

They are fabulist......and like Steve Bannon, they want to tear it down, or rather, have Don & Steve tear it down because they will somehow be on the winning end.

IMHO

 

[MarathonMike]

Poster Flops: (Democrats think)... they will somehow be on the winning end.
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Alternatively, we have Trump alter-ego, campaign manager, and thought-leader, Steve Bannon:

“The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”
"I'm a Leninist. Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today's establishment."


As I have read on the USMB chatroom......our QAnon/MAGA contributors too often validate the widespread perception throughout America, and likely the world, that they are uninformed, under-educated, un-read, ne'er-do-wells who have failed to be successful in today's America....and pine for an imaginary America that never was, where they are convinced they then can be as successful, or more successful, than their community neighbors.

They are fabulist......and like Steve Bannon, they want to tear it down, or rather, have Don & Steve tear it down because they will somehow be on the winning end.

IMHO

That is a bloviating non response to what you asked me to provide. I am smarter, richer and happier than you so your simple-minded stereotype of 'MAGA' falls flat. I support the GOP, Donald Trump or whoever the nominee is because the number one threat to this country is the Democratic Party.

 

[BluesLegend]

Stupid dangerous tactic by desperate and stupid people.

Biden won by a record amount of votes, right?

This shouldn't be necessary to remove Trump from the ballots as the record holding Biden has nothing to worry about, right? RIGHT?

You underestimate Dem intolerance.

 

[Chillicothe]

"I am smarter, richer and happier than you..."

Sure, Mike, you go with that.
It's the internet, you know.
You be whoever or whatever you wanna be.
Who's to know?



ps....this may just be me, but......but your postings sorta kinda have the vibe of, well, disappointment and unhappiness with your lot in life. If that is not the case, then maybe you will wanna work on your 'first-impression' skills.
Good luck.

 

[BackAgain]

Early on the last day of the year, we enter the Mos Eisley Cantina and see the, umm, peculiarity of many of the patrons. Still, it can be entertaining, tho seldom informational. But hell, let's ask. Maybe at the end of the year, some here will seek the road to redemption?
________________________________________________________________________


Why would he want to do that?
He's been a life long civic leader here in America, it has been good to him. He has grandchildren that will live in this America long after he is gone. He has a positive 'legacy' of accomplishment that he naturally would want to live after him. Yet, you claim he wants all that destroyed?
Would you please explain your thinking to the forum so that the posters and lurker here will know just exactly what you mean, MAGAman? And we can then judge accordingly.

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I'm gonna assume the poster 'yidnar' is referring to Democrats when he says "dims". Regardless, of who he is referencing.......the obvious question is "why would any citizen want to "tear-the-country-apart"....if they live here, have children, grandchildren, property, and graves of ancestors here? Why would any citizen want this country that has been so good for so many to be 'torn apart"?
Please explain yourself, poster 'yidnar'.....so the forum can better judge your rationale for claiming what you claim.....and your qualifications and gravitas for claiming such.

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MMike.....see the queries above that have been posed to posters 'yidnar' and 'MAGAman'....the queries can apply to you too. Why would citizens...Democrat or whoever...want division and chaos in a country that they live in, and raise their families in. It seems somewhat illogical. However, we are willing to listen to your articulate explanation of why they would be so motivated, and why you think that.
Thanks in advance.

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Preening posturing poseur ^ says what?

 

[Edgetho]

Reality Check - Most Americans who vote regardless of political affiliation are protective of progressive gains made since America’s founding. We have a recent validation of that reality in the recent abortion rights for women amendnent to the Ohio Constitution.

The Republican Party wants to tear that right away.

I don't. The two political stances that have hurt Republicans the most have been abortion and marijuana. Both of which, they're on the wrong side of. Stupidity. Backward and stupid. Idiocy.

Let me be clear, I am not a Republican. I don't like Republican politicians as a rule and I don't like the Republican Party at all.

But, God help me, I hate, despise and detest the dimocrap scum party with every fiber of my being. They, and most of their voters, are the scuzziest, sleaziest FILTH to ever exist on the Planet Earth.

So that's why I vote Republican. If Satan himself were to run against dimocrap scum in a political race, I would have to at least find something kind to say about him.

 

[MarathonMike]

Sure, Mike, you go with that.
It's the internet, you know.
You be whoever or whatever you wanna be.
Who's to know?



ps....this may just be me, but......but your postings sorta kinda have the vibe of, well, disappointment and unhappiness with your lot in life. If that is not the case, then maybe you will wanna work on your 'first-impression' skills.
Good luck.

I'm happily retired with a great family, so it's another swing and a miss for you. I am dismayed at the general decline brought on by your Party and shocked that any American could support them. But that doesn't stop me from enjoying every day of my well earned and deserved retirement. Happy New Year!

 

[Seymour Flops]

I agree that it is illogical to support the current Democratic Party that has morphed into an anti-American hostile force. Supporters like yourself have been successfully conditioned by Democrat controlled Media to think that the border is just fine, that 75,000 Americans a year dying from Fentanyl poisoning is just fine, 10,000 unknown migrants entering our country per day is just fine, undermining law enforcement is just fine, changing election laws is just fine and Trump is evil and must be destroyed.

Democrats want division and chaos in the country because in order to transform the country into a Marxist state, they need to disrupt and destroy what is here now. That is why they tear down statues, rename schools, air bases, streets etc. That is why they push Slavery and reparations. That is why they make a mockery of the Constitution. That is why they are importing millions of "new" potential Americans. That is why they took over prime time TV Media and push their Party narratives and attack their number one enemy Donald Trump relentlessly with one absurd "indictment" after another.

Lots of silliness in that post. I’ll address one specific point: I am not a creationist, and have never claimed to be. I’m not really even that much of an advocate of intelligent design. What I am that makes you lump me into the creation category, is a person who sees the large amount of flaws in the Darwinian “theory.” Too large for me to buy into it, even to stretch a point and get along.

A creationist is a person who tries to fit their religious beliefs into some sort of pseudo scientific examination of the existing world. In that, they are no better than Darwinists.

Darwinism is not a theory, because there is zero experimental evidence to support it. It could add a stretch be called a hypothesis. But even that would not strictly be correct, because it is not really testable through experimentation.

What Darwinism is is a series of speculations that do have internal logic, which is reason enough for some people to believe it. I don’t fault them for believing it. I only fought them for making exaggerated exclamations of dismay when somebody else does not believe it.

It’s as silly as a Catholic expressing dismay that someone would doubt the popes and fallibility, or the transubstantiation of the communion wafer and wine.

 

[Chillicothe]

brought on by your Party and shocked that any American could support them...... Happy New Year!

Well, first, MM.....HNY 2 u 2.
2023 was a great year. No reason 2024 can't be also. Looking forward to it.

But, as it ain't here yet....we've got time to parse the above quote.

"Your Party"......umm, doesn't quite work.
I'm really an Independent, so is my bride; but.....will admit that here in my home state I am a registered Democrat, and in Florida where I spend nearly 4 months each year....I am a registered Republican. (btw, my bride, Precious Flower, is just the flip of that.....a Dem at home, and a GOP'r in Florida.


We do that not because we are ultra fans of either party.....but rather, so we get invitations to their monthly luncheons. The price is reasonable, the food is pretty OK (much better in Florida), but most importantly, they bring in luncheon speakers. Often they are quite interesting and informative. We like that.
So, one of us at each luncheon goes as a Plus 1.